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GeForce 3 Review on Adrenaline Vault
JWhiton writes: "The lucky folks at the Adrenaline Vault have managed to get their hands on a reference GeForce 3 board and have run it through the standard gamut of tests. Looks like it really performs well at very high res with 32-bit color due to its efficient new rendering techinques. However, it lags behind the GeForce2 in a few areas. You can find the article here." We've already run a few things about the GeForce 3, but the more the merrier.
Did you at least notice that the bars length was not proportional with the results they are expressing?
I just see the GF3 beeing less than 10% slower in 2D than a GF2 or Radeon. That's not a big deal at all...
It could be one if this continues but I am pretty sure this is due to some immature drivers.
There is a ton of focus on the fact that the GeForce 3 doesn't blow the socks off of the Geforce 2 in current limited games. I'm assuming the same idiots posting that blather asked, "What's the point of the gutenburg press, it can't reproduce full color paintings very well, and the existing technology does." Both the new idiots and the idiots back then don't get the fact that the new technology makes an array of new things possible. If you are not a developer BE GLAD that they are releasing the card publicaly so anyone who wants to try their hand at it can. It will be better games for you in the long haul.
Nvidia PDF document link in order to avoid lameness filter.
nVidia has recently admitted that this document is real but that it was intended for marketting people only. I would contend that the document really has been sent to several businesses which several industry sources say is true.
In the PDF nvidia basically says that one of their key video card makers is a crap company. What was that makers response? They are right to be scared 3D Prophet 4500 will really be a great product Street Date May 16th 2001 - Claude Guillemot, President Hercules Technologies.
But that isn't as interesting as the news that follows:
Hercules one of nVidia's major card manufacturers will not make a new MX card.
Well Nvidia stopped the production of the MX chips these will be replaced by MX200 and MX400. We will not produce a board based on the MX200 or MX400 chips. The big problem is that the new MX series will have a bigger pricetag as the Kyro II based boards and the performance will be slower as the Kyro II based boards. So we don't think a the new MX series will sell very well.
Thought this was all a bit interesting lesson
don't go around making your big suppliers mad, even if it is with leaked documents.
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Troll? Probably, but I wouldn't want anyone to be mislead by your words, so...
1) removing all content relating to linux.3dfx.com and 3dfxgamers.com
That was 3dfx that did that, NOT NVidia. NVidia is NOT responsible for supporting 3dfx's current product line. NVidia gave 3dfx a fat wad of cash which 3dfx is *supposed* to be spending on supporting their users. Hmm...
2) not updating either of the Linux, Mac, or MS Windows codebase for the 3dfx Voodoo products.
Again, that is not NVidia's responsibility. NVidia did NOT buy 3dfx's current product line. If you go out and buy a Voodoo card right now, the money goes to 3dfx, NOT NVidia. Thus, NVidia has no reason to be supporting Voodoo cards.
3) releasing closed-source drivers for their video cards that prevent accurate security audits
I think this has been argued enough, but just in case, here is the primary argument: NVidia's GL drivers contains MUCH MUCH more than just a hardware interface. OpenGL drivers are required to implement all of OpenGL's functionality, even if the hardware doesn't support it. Thus, NVidia's GL drivers contain software implementations of anything that isn't supported in all of their cards. This includes an extremely good T&L implementation, which every one of NVidia's competitors would probably love to have. It would not be legal for them to release that open source -- their shareholders would sue them!
4) conspiring with the enemy ala Microsoft
NVidia does not suck up to Microsoft. Microsoft sucks up to NVidia. Has NVidia ever done anything purely for Microsoft's sake? No. They are providing hardware for the X-Box, but at a price, and at the same time they are providing hardware for the Indrema, a fact which I'm sure Microsoft is not happy about. Furthermore, NVidia has the best 3D hardware drivers available on Linux (closed source or not). Microsoft has acknoledged Linux to be their primary competitor, so I'm sure they'd prefer than NVidia not support Linux. Last, but not least, NVidia has the best GL implementation of any consumer 3D hardware vendor. There is no advantage whatsoever to using Direct3D rather than OpenGL on NVidia hardware. As a matter of fact, the GL implementation is often said to be *better* than the D3D implementation. I don't think Microsoft likes that, either.
In summary, NVidia makes a point of not being manipulated by Microsoft, and they are damned proud of it.
5) not boosting and advertizing for the widespread software development on the indrema console; which has incorporated their hardware.
What the hell are you talking about!? NVidia doesn't advertise for the X-Box either. They also don't advertise for any of the graphics card manufacturers that use NVidia's chipset. As a matter of fact, NVidia does not (for the most part) advertise *any* individual product which uses their hardware. They only advertise their chipset itself.
It is Indrema's responsibility to advertise their own hardware. I want Indrema to succeed too, but NVidia is the last place I'd blame if they fail.
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I own a GeForce2 GTSII with 64 MB of DDR RAM. What is the incentive of my going out and buying at $500+ video card?...None. The current one is just fine and will be just fine for a while. The price of video cards is insane, for $500 you could get AMD 1 Ghz, MB, 256 MB RAM, Case and HD plus some other stuff easy. This card shouldnt catch on quick becuase there isnt any software to take full advantage of it. I think the only people that will buy this card are those that want to stay "cutting-edge" and have too much money. I think ill wait till the GeForce4 comes out becuase it looks as though the software section has a while to catch up.
Arathres
I love my iBook. I use it to run Linux!
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If you want to spend the cash on the Geforce 3.. I applaud your gaming dedication. I really do. If money was absolutly not an issue for me I would be there with you.
... or a few others have reviewed it aswell.... they all have glowing reviews for it..... *for the price*.
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I will buy a Geforce 3 someday aswell... probably within the next 8 months.. but it wont be the first generation, otherwise known as "MX" version of the card... I will wait to buy the "Pro" or "Ultra" version of the card wich will cost as much then as this first gen card does now.
In the meantime.... the Kyro II card beats in some instances the Geforce 3 and the Geforce 2. It also only costs 150 bucks. It uses a totally different way rendering it's stuff.... and it works great on todays games... but sucks about as much as a Geforce 2 on tomarrows games. -- But for 150 bucks... I'll get it today.. (or in a week when it comes out)... and get the Pro Version of the Geforce 3... later around the time I imagine when the X-Box is released.
Read a review of the Kyro II at Anandtech.com
Also... main product page can be found here --- > http://us.hercules.com/mediaroom/pr/lookpr.php3?p
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