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Caldera Mulling Alternate Licenses

edoug writes: "Ransom Love (CEO of Caldera) said he thinks Microsoft was right in its claim that the GPL doesn't make much business sense. And so, Caldera is mulling a non-GPL licensing mechanism -- most likely one based on the BSD license. Love said: "Microsoft is attacking open source at its weakest point: the GPL." Check out the article here ." Update: 05/10 7:30 AM by michael : Newsforge has an interview with Love.

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  1. Re:What a rush to judgement here by TilJ · · Score: 5

    Wouldn't releasing that intellectual property under a *more* liberal license (BSD-ish) make them even greater fools?

    At least with the GPL, the intellectual property remains within the sphere of competitors that also release their source. A more liberal license would expand that sphere to include proprietary competitors, which isn't exactly useful in the "prevent going broke" thing ;-)

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  2. what's the GPL got to do with business ? by cats-paw · · Score: 5

    Hasn't anyone _actually_ read the GNU manifesto ?

    The GPL was not devised to provide a business opportunity. It was devised to preserve freedom.

    Getting involved with GPL'ed code, and then saying "gee, the GPL isn't a very business friendly" is totally ridiculous.

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  3. Re:They only exist because of the GPL by nachoman · · Score: 5

    "Microsoft is attacking open source at its weakest point: the GPL"

    WTF? Open Source != GPL for the 1 gazillionth time. The BSD license is still open source. And it does make more sense in the business sense. It always has. I love the BSD license and it is great for products like apache. Some things you just don't need to sell though. Not too many businesses would need to fix up a linux kernel for a software product, therefore GPL is fine. But with apache, creating custom modifications for custom needs, BSD is great. I'm sure one of the reasons Apache is so widely used is that It can be easily used in the business world.

    Microsoft isn't attacking Open Source at all. Especially when they use BSD code in some of their TCP implementations on 2000. They however are attacking GPL. Yeah, it may not be the best for business, but that's my point. Choose the license that fits. There are some apps that may be better off using the BSD license. But I don't think Linux is one of them.

    At least now, Microsoft sees Linux as a threat. It's good publicity to have this in the news all the time. When people really investigate it, they will find the truth. GPL has it's pitfalls. You may want to modify code, but can't cause you don't want to release the changes. But hey, that's better then not having the code at all

  4. Re:They only exist because of the GPL by blirp · · Score: 5
    When people really investigate it, they will find the truth. GPL has it's pitfalls. You may want to modify code, but can't cause you don't want to release the changes.

    There's nothing in the GPL that prevents you from modifying the source. The only thing the GPL says is that you have to give the source to whomever you give the binary. And that the recipient then can do whatever they like with that source. There's nothing preventing you from charging a million dollars for that binary.

    The Apache-example you gave seems a bit weird. If you make a custom modification for custom need, that sounds like a single web-site (or at least custom-built ones ("site" her might be embedded)). And there's nothing in the GPL preventing you from doing that either. You just have to give the customer the source.

    M.

  5. What a rush to judgement here by r_j_prahad · · Score: 5
    Just in case you've all been living under a rock, Caldera just acquired a truckload of intellectual property from the old Santa Cruz Operation. They'd be fools to give all that away after paying an arm and a leg for it, but they'd be villified from here to eternity if they don't share it with the OSS community somehow. It's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

    Caldera has always understood the rules as well or better than anybody else, and has played a fair game with the community. Why don't you all hold off on the flames until they release something under a different license model, and then make a judgement as to whether their intentions are honorable or not.

    Y'all bemoan the fact, daily it seems, that OSS companies keep going broke, but when somebody tries to find a way to make an honest buck, you crucify them. Lighten up. Caldera will do the right thing based on their past performance.

  6. Invasion of the Microbot$ by scorcherer · · Score: 5

    Stallman says add to this code and you are one of us. Gates says use this code and you belong to us.

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