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Apple Releases - Doing Less, Faster, Is Better?

gralem asks: "There is some frustration in the OS X community about Apple's release of updates. Apple has basically been releasing updates to OS X every 2-3 weeks. The updates aren't ground-breaking. They don't add all the features the users expect (CD burning ended up being only from within iTunes, instead of system-wide). They also don't fix all of the known bugs of the system. But I think Apple is doing the right thing by keeping lots of updates flowing. I haven't seen anything 'broken' by the updates, and each time the system runs faster and smoother. Does it matter that OS X is such 'new technology' as far as Apple is concerned, as opposed to W2K and Microsoft's update schedule?" Keeping the updates flowing is one thing, but forcing users to update every 2-3 weeks? That might be a bit too much. I don't know much about OS X, but if the upgrades system can be configured to the users taste, and said configuration done in a user-friendly way, then maybe monthly updates might not be a bad thing ...

"I can't remember how long Microsoft took to release W2K service pack 1, but I know there is still no service pack 2. Even Linux kernel (stable) releases are not commonly in the 2-3 week range. So is Apple doing the right thing to get SOMETHING out there? Or are they disenfranchising their user base by coming out with too little too fast?"

An embellishment to the above: as long as there are tools to tailor the upgrades of a system to the user's specific desires, who cares how often providers update their own packages? Such an updater would check the upstream package catalog and apply multiple criterion on each updated package which would determine if that update is applied. I would suggest that the two basic criterion one would apply for updates would be severity and duration. Couple this with forced inclusion and exclusion lists and an administrator would be able to configure the system to apply only those packages that they need upgraded at the appropriate time, and quite possibly without the need of administrator intervention (depending, of course, on how much the administrator trusts the upstream).

With such a system in place, who cares how often Apple, Red Hat, Debian, Microsoft or <insert vendor here> updates their software packages? You'll have what you need, as often as you need it.

How difficult would it be to adapt the existing updating systems to serve this purpose? Is someone close to putting this into place, now?

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  1. Opinion from a MacOS X user by HeghmoH · · Score: 5

    I use MacOS X as my mostly main OS these days. I still shuttle into 9 from time to time, but X is starting to replace it for me. 10.0.0 was not good enough to be my main OS. On my G3/300 (160M RAM), X ran too slowly. By 10.0.3, it's reasonably snappy. It's not great, but it's usable. I'm really happy with their constant updates. They aren't profound, but the OS gets faster with every one, and little things keep getting fixed. I'd rather have it this way than one big update every six months. Updating is easy. I start the update, then I go and do something else on the computer, and a while later, I hit restart. Boom, updated. If you don't want to update, nothing forces you to. If you do want to update, it's simple.

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  2. Updates on YOUR schedule by Dredd13 · · Score: 5
    I don't know much about OS X, but if the upgrades system can be configured to the users taste, and said configuration done in a user-friendly way, then maybe monthly updates might not be a bad thing ...

    Updates can be configured to happen on whatever schedule the user chooses... daily, weekly, monthly, manually, whenever.

    Most of the present day OSX users are power-users, though, so they're either doing it manually when they find out about updates, or they've got it set to check for updates daily.

  3. software updates. painless. by option8 · · Score: 5

    "Keeping the updates flowing is one thing, but forcing users to update every 2-3 weeks? That might
    be a bit too much. I don't know much about OS X, but if the upgrades system can be configured to the users taste, and said configuration done in a user-friendly way, then maybe monthly updates might not be a bad thing ... "


    the software updates in OS X (and in 9.x as well) are done automatically by the system, tho the default configuration is to check the software updates servers periodically in the background, then ask the user which updates that are available he wants to download and install

    the process is amazingly apple-like: painless and transparent, at most requiring a reboot (with system-level component updates. things like itunes are finished when the download uncompresses)

    it's also user configurable to go ahead and get every update as it appears, or none at all - requiring the user to click a button to manually check for updates.

    this is the kind of thing that a lot of systems are aiming for, including, among others, Red Hat's update agent, which i think falls farthest from the mark. not to criticize RH, but it's the only other example i have on my desk at the moment with which to compare. i know the W2k update agent works well anecdotally, but its little balloon popups are really annoying...

    my point? did i have one?

  4. I'm sick of these double standards by kinnunen · · Score: 5
    We* use distributions that come with literally thousands of programs. We complain when Microsoft adds a couple to their new OS/Distro.

    We call Windows bloated at 400MB, but when someone points out that distro X takes 7 CD's, we defend that distro

    We're happy to use software that updates several times a month, some update daily. When Apple releases two patches in one month, we say their forcing people to update against their will or something.

    *Yes, I know this doesn't apply to every single reader.

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  5. This is the right thing to do... by xFoz · · Score: 5

    If the goal is to ship OS X with every machine Apple sells starting this summer, now is the time to get things straight. If that means "updates on Friday" then send them. Do it before it's flung unto the masses.

    Personally, I'd rather have a bunch of close together updates then the monolithic updates that non-OS vendors force these days. For example the last releases of Photoshop and Illustrator had a disastrous effect on my business. The artists couldn't deal with the sweeping changes made by Adobe.

    Finally, I imagine that it's easier for engineering and QA get their jobs done by shipping micro updates. Especially since there are so many different parts of this OS.

  6. In many situations, it's never too often! by melquiades · · Score: 5
    Think of the massive media panic that follows on the heels of ever newly discovered Virus of the Apocalypse. Millions of people are out there wondering where to download the update for Outlook and how to install it...in fact, many of the novices are wondering whether they are even using Outlook.... A scheme like Apple's, done right, could stop a lot of these viruses in their tracks.

    If I can get a painless, nearly-transparent bug or security fix the moment it's ready for prime time just by clicking "update", I'm a happy camper. I'm puzzled by this assertion that every two weeks is too much.

    An update scheme such as OS X's should meet the following criteria:
    1. No configuration or install necessary to use auto-update
    2. User can customize the auto-update schedule, make it manual, or simply disable it completely
    3. There is a clear explanation of when an update is available, which software it affects, and what features it adds/improves/fixes
    4. User has a choice about whether to download/install an update when it's available
    5. Updates are painlessly self-installing
    6. Updates are well-tested and don't break existing software

    I'm using OS X as my primary OS, and so far, Apple has done an absolutely outstanding job with 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6. Only #3 is week -- the only explanation you see when an update is available is "OS X 10.0.3". You have to install the update then try to divine what's changed. If Apple fixes this problem, they'll have a killer mechanism that Linux distros would do well to study.