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LCD Display Questions - Longevity and Monochrome?

At about the same time, two readers sent in questions about those expensive LCD panels that, if you are not fortunate enough to own one, you are envious of anyone who does (I know I am!). However, these two questions raise some interesting issues which I'm sure those of you looking to buy one, may be asking as soon as you make that purchase. One issue is longevity: how long do those LCD pixels last? Another issue is cost: why don't LCD manufacturers make lower-cost Monochrome LCD screens available for those who don't need to work in full-color glory?

Jack Frost IV asks: "Since higher resolution LCD panels have started to become a lot more common, many people have been complaining about dead pixels. I just received two SGI flat panels direct from the factory, and each shipped with a single dead pixel. In fact, the second display was a replacement for the first (for an issue unrelated to the dead pixel). While I understand the difficulties in manufacturing the displays, the single dead pixel doesn't concern me right now, as I don't notice it often. What bothers me is how many more pixels these displays will lose during a lifetime; say over the next three to five years. I want to replace a lot of my CRTs (Yes, *some* of us don't do color critical work, and LCDs are perfectly OK) with LCD panels, but if, say, a dozen pixels are going to die in 3 - 5 years, it's going to be quite annoying. SGI claims that once the pixel burns out, you'll never notice it was gone... but I don't buy it. Can anyone explain some of the longevity and degredation issues relating to flat panels?"

O'Bunny queries: "How come nobody apparently sells monochrome LCD monitors for PC-like devices? I'd love to have a largish (say, 1600x1200) flat monitor that: doesn't weigh five thousand pounds; isn't fifteen feet thick; and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

The rationales that I've heard behind the high costs of these monitors were:

  1. The manufacturing yield is low because of the large number of transistors that need to all work properly to display colours.
  2. The economy of scale currently is aimed at laptop users, for whom a 1600x1200 screen is impractically large (unless you happen to be Andre the Giant)

Ignoring the second part, why doesn't anyone make a decentmonochrome LCD monitor for those of us who want a large screen but don't necessarily need color?

In my case, I want to edit multi-channel audio. A Color display adds almost nothing to the information that I extract from the screen. I can select, cut, copy paste, apply effects, and otherwise mangle the sounds as well on a 1-bit per pixel display as I can on a 32-bpp monster.

I am also a technical writer. The documents I write are produced on a B&W laser printer, mostly. Certainly, on-line documents (and even most printed ones) can benefit from intelligent use of colour for various reasons, but most printed documents end up in black and white (mostly for cost reasons). Again, colour adds little to the experience.

So, I guess my question really comes down to the following:

  • Where can I get a large monochrome flat-panel monitor for a PC?
  • If I can't get one for $less than a colour flat panel, why not?"

3 of 139 comments (clear)

  1. Re:Economies of hype by "Zow" · · Score: 5

    While your point is well taken, another major advantage of LCD displays (other than the space savings as noted by another poster) is the power and cooling savings. Fred Cohen had his students in the CCD do a power and heat analysis of all their equiptment in the wake of the CA power crisis. They found that a 17" LCD monitor only drew 1/10 the power and generated 1/4 the heat of a 17" CRT monitor meaning that the higher cost for the LCD monitor would pay for itself after just a couple years of use.

    -"Zow"

  2. Longetivity by thinmac · · Score: 5

    I'm not sure how todays displays differ from those of older laptops, but I have a PowerBook 170 from almost 10 years ago that is still looking great. At the time we were extatic to have found one with no bad pixels (they were few and far between at the time), and I can say for sure that the same is true of that screen today. It should be noted, however, that that was one of the earliest shipping Active Matrix screens, and monochrome, but it would be hard to find a 10 year old Apple Cinima Display (drool) to check.

  3. YMMV by EricEldred · · Score: 5

    I can only speak from my own experience:

    1. Dead pixels are usually there from the beginning, so shop carefully. Later, there is the more likely possibility of having a dead streak of pixels.
    2. These LCDs are produced on big assembly lines that need a lot of capital and long runs to be economical. Monochrome LCDs are being produced for small screens such as for cellular phones. Color LCD assembly lines mostly produce larger screens for such uses as portable computers and now desktop displays. Since manufacturers can make more money producing the big screens, and since the factories were built to produce big color screens, they are mostly color now. The price varies by supply and demand--both now favor color screens, which are now going down in retail price as the supply has recently been increased.
    3. If you are considering an LCD display for use by a technical writer, look at the digital LCDs and not the cheaper analog variety--type will look better. The price of a 19-inch CRT monitor has gone down dramatically in the last year and might be more cost-effective for such a purpose than a digital LCD screen.