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Intel Claims Smallest, Fastest Transistor

The Angry Clam writes: "Supposedly, Intel has really micronized transistors." Seems that "Intel engineers have designed and manufactured a handful of transistors that are only 20 nanometers, or 0.02 microns, in size." There's some of the usual discussion of how long Moore's Law can hold, but also a bit of discussion about what will replace silicon dioxide in a few years. Reader omnirealm points to a similar story at the New York Times as well.

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  1. The End of Work? by Louis+Savain · · Score: 5

    From Yahoo Dailynews: An investor could check his stock portfolio in the morning and find that the computer has analyzed the portfolio, market trends, economic data and such to present a number of options.

    ``You log on in the morning and (the computer) gives you two or three options: 'Have you thought about doing one of these things? I've done the calculations for you,''' Marcyk said.


    If the computer is so smart, why not just tell it to initiate whatever stock transactions it thinks is best? Come to think of it, if computers are that smart, you'll be out of a job and you won't have any money to invest in stocks unless you inherited an estate or had some money stashed away from the time when you were working.

    When that happens, we'll need a new law to replace Moore's law: the number of unemployed people will double every seven days. Andy Grove will be heard saying "Where is the limit? Show me the limit, goddamnit!" while an angry and hungry mob tries to force its way into the lobby of Intel's headquarters, brandishing pitchforks and God knows what else. :-D

  2. Re:The Change by JordanH · · Score: 5
    • It seems clear to me that Moore's Law does hold no matter what - in a way. When the size continues to decrease exponentially... smaller and smaller, to the point where we can't even see what we're making by the naked eye, it's not that further improvement becomes impossible, but simply that the process changes, or the technology.

    We're talking about 0.02 microns here. Most people can't make out any detail smaller than a centimeter. 0.02 microns would be 500,000 times smaller than what can be seen with the unaided eye!

    I really don't understand your reasoning. Are you saying that we are motivated to improve our technology all the time? What does this have to do with Moore's Law and specific predictions about how fast our technology improves?

    If anything, I think that Moore's Law might be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    We just don't have that great a motivation to improve processor technology these days. We have processor technology that is beyond the dreams of engineers 30 years ago. For the most part, we have reached a point where most of the needs of applications of massively powerful computing are currently realized in today's machines.

    Sure, faster is better, but does faster translate to big development dollars to outdo Moore's Law when researchers and developers are constantly trying to develop software and systems to keep up with the huge gains that were seeing with Moore's Law? In this scenario, Moore's Law is how fast machines improve because Moore said as much and that's what drives the designers to improve, keeping up with and staying ahead of Moore's Law. The designers don't want to be in the group that finally failed to live up to the expectations of the industry, but there's also no particular motivation to get ahead of Moore's Law's predictions either.

    Take the above with a grain of salt. It's just conjecture, of course.

  3. The Change by piecewise · · Score: 5

    It seems clear to me that Moore's Law does hold no matter what - in a way. When the size continues to decrease exponentially... smaller and smaller, to the point where we can't even see what we're making by the naked eye, it's not that further improvement becomes impossible, but simply that the process changes, or the technology.

    Example: a floppy disk's size can be pushed to the limit, and finally we have 1.4MB floppies.. but sooner or later, you need a CD. And then a DVD. Et cetera.

    It'll still be quite a while, but eventually silicon will simply be the wrong technology, the wrong process. Of course, a processor technology lasts MUCH longer than a subcomponent, such as a floppy drive technology.

    Moore's Law. Too bad it's "only" x2 and not ^2. :-)

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  4. Moore's Law II by ZeLonewolf · · Score: 5

    Wow. just think...

    What would happen if computing hardware technology reached hard atomic limits?

    A new era would begin...programmers would actually have to write efficient code! The end of bloatware as we know it!

    Moore's Law II: On average, every 15 months, code would suck 50% less...


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  5. Obligatory AI quote by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5
    "You log on in the morning and (the computer) gives you two or three options: 'Have you thought about doing one of these things? I've done the calculations for you," Marcyk said.

    Just once, I'd like to read an article about a new microprocessor technology that doesn't have some silly quote about what kind of AI feature it will enable.

    For decades, hardware has been proving exponentially. For decades, they've been predictiong that the new features will magically enable intelligent software.

    All we've got to show for it so far is Clippy the paper clip. A mere 10X speedup won't make Clippy any less annoying.

    Hint for futuristic article editors: the human brain has a hardware and software architecture that has absolutely nothing in common with that of an electronic computer.