(Apologies for the discombobulation, this is the only part of the Holy Grail I have not memorized. It's just too convoluted...)
Wuss. The following, though not scrupulously perfect, is from memory.
KING: Make sure the prince doesn't leave this room until I come and get him.
GUARD: Not to leave the room, even if you come and get him.
KING: No no, until I come and get him.
GUARD: Until you come and get him, we're not to enter the room.
KING: No no. You stay in the room, and make sure he doesn't leave.
GUARD: And you'll come and get him.
KING: Right.
GUARD: We're not to do anything apart from just stop him entering the room.
KING: No no, leaving the room.
GUARD: Leaving the room, yes.
KING: Got it?
GUARD: Oh! Oh, if we... er, if he... Uh...
KING: Look, it's quite simple.
GUARD: Er...
KING: You two just stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave. Got it?
GUARD: Oh, I remember. Er, can he leave the room with us?
KING: No, I want you to keep him in here, and make sure...
GUARD: Oh, we'll keep him in here, obviously. But if he had to leave, and we were with him...
KING: No, just keep him in here...
GUARD: Until you or anyone else...
KING: No, not anyone else, just me...
GUARD: Just you...
KING: Get back.
GUARD: Get back.
KING:...Right?
GUARD: Right, we'll stay here until you get back.
KING: And make sure he doesn't leave.
GUARD: Hmm?
KING: Make sure he doesn't leave.
GUARD: The prince?
KING: Yes! Make sure he...
GUARD: Oh! I'm sorry, I thought you meant him. (indicates other guard) Y'know it seemed a bit daft me having to guard him when he's a guard.
KING: Is that clear?
GUARD: Oh, quite clear, no problems.
[ KING turns to leave; GUARDS move to follow. ]
KING: Where are you going?
GUARD: We're coming with you.
KING: No, I want you to stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave!
GUARD: Oh, I see. Right.
You either get it, or you don't.
by
Mr.+Flibble
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· Score: 5
...so why would I want to see it again in the theatres? If you ask me, Monty Python's sun has already set.
Why would someone want to watch a movie twice? Heck, I have seen Star Wars, I don't need to buy it again. I don't need the merchandising. Oh, I have read the Lord of the Rings once a year for the last 14 years, and I guess I won't have to go see the movie either because I know what happens!
...Errr.... No.
A few years back, the Meaning of Life appeared at a theater, here. I own the movie. I went to see it anyways. It was great watching this movie on the big screen (no cropping!) and, the best bonus, being there with a bunch of my friends, and a theater full of rabid Python fans.
The only thing about Monty Python and popular culture (read, Star Wars, Matrix, etc...) that is different, is that the Pythons were very talented and an extremely well educated bunch. Their sort of humor appeals more to the intellectual type (geeks) than average sit-com crap. A large proportion of their comedy is intellectual. If you get the jokes, you are suddenly part of a club. How many people would find the "Bruces Philosphers Song" (sp) outrageously funny? Not everyone I would wager. The reason I would say this is that Joe Average probably has no idea who Immanual Kant, Heidgger, David Hume et al were!
So, if you believe that the sun is setting on Python, then it must be setting on other big phenomena too. The only difference is the level of intellect required to get the subtle jokes and allusions.
Re:What's so funny about Monty Python any more?
by
Jethro
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· Score: 5
Come on, Drew Barrimore's not as pretty as people seem to think she is, but calling her a cow is a bit uncalled for.
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In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
The missing 24 seconds, laserdisc commentary, etc
by
Obiwan+Kenobi
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· Score: 5
I think it's great they're re-releasing Holy Grail. Easily the most innovative, creative, and funny film of the Monty Python series (though I have the others and they are quite good by themselves).
I thought I would share that the missing 24 seconds, if you weren't aware, are from Castle Anthrax, ("I can face the peril!") featuring a few quick cuts of girls doing generally bad things that you wouldn't discuss over a cup of tea with your grandmother.
Anyway.
One other story I'd like to share is from the Criterion Collection's laserdisc release of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. A fabulous edition that you can now, thanks to the death of laserdisc, get super cheap on ebay (I found it for less than $20, including shipping). On it is a fantastic commentary with Terry Gilliam and Terry Jones. Here is a comment from Terry Gilliam on the first American screening. I'm paraphrasing here, but the gist is the same:
"On our first screening, in New York, I couldn't believe the response. People were lined up around the block. I was nervous as hell, not believing what I was seeing. Saturday Night Live had yet to hit TV's across the country, and sketch comedy was generally something thought as avant garde at the time. After the screening, a couple came up to me and told me how much they respected Monty Python and loved my work. I thanked them and told them I appreciated the support.
The two were Gilda Radner and John Belushi."
- Terry Gilliam
I know what the 24 seconds will be
by
Jailbrekr
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· Score: 5
It will be 24 seconds of them discussing about the previously unseen 24 seconds of footage..... and it'll prolly go on for at least 5 minutes.....
Terry Gilliam's first net experience
by
epeus
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· Score: 5
That reminds me. Long ago in 1992, when the net was younger than it is now, I was working in London for the MultiMedia Corporation on a CD-Rom with Douglas Adams. He was friends with the various pythons, and he suggested that Terry Gilliam dropped in to see what we were doing with our computers.
We showed him our CD-ROM titles, and an early version of QuickTime, and mentioned Usenet in passing. he expressed interest, so we sat him down in front of the Mac that had the modem (in our cable cupboard) and showed him alt.fan.monty-python.
He was fascinated, and sat there reading it for at least 40 minutes. I remember him seeing someone ask for the script to Holy Grail and him posting his production company address for them to get a copy (of course somone else posted the entire script the next day, and no-one ever believed that Terry Gilliam was posting from our address).
Its the fact that they were too cheap for expensive actors, or props, or special effects, and all they had was their wit and natural funniness. I mean the fact that they use coconut shells for horses isnt really all that funny unless you realize that they couldn't afford horses, and they realize that too, and they just make fun of it.
Some of the newer stuff where they had money, and didn't make fun of themselves as much, isn't nearly as funny.
Which regional encoding? African or European?
by
JohnTheFisherman
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· Score: 5
Wuss. The following, though not scrupulously perfect, is from memory.
KING: Make sure the prince doesn't leave this room until I come and get him. ...Right?
GUARD: Not to leave the room, even if you come and get him.
KING: No no, until I come and get him.
GUARD: Until you come and get him, we're not to enter the room.
KING: No no. You stay in the room, and make sure he doesn't leave.
GUARD: And you'll come and get him.
KING: Right.
GUARD: We're not to do anything apart from just stop him entering the room.
KING: No no, leaving the room.
GUARD: Leaving the room, yes.
KING: Got it?
GUARD: Oh! Oh, if we... er, if he... Uh...
KING: Look, it's quite simple.
GUARD: Er...
KING: You two just stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave. Got it?
GUARD: Oh, I remember. Er, can he leave the room with us?
KING: No, I want you to keep him in here, and make sure...
GUARD: Oh, we'll keep him in here, obviously. But if he had to leave, and we were with him...
KING: No, just keep him in here...
GUARD: Until you or anyone else...
KING: No, not anyone else, just me...
GUARD: Just you...
KING: Get back.
GUARD: Get back.
KING:
GUARD: Right, we'll stay here until you get back.
KING: And make sure he doesn't leave.
GUARD: Hmm?
KING: Make sure he doesn't leave.
GUARD: The prince?
KING: Yes! Make sure he...
GUARD: Oh! I'm sorry, I thought you meant him. (indicates other guard) Y'know it seemed a bit daft me having to guard him when he's a guard.
KING: Is that clear?
GUARD: Oh, quite clear, no problems.
[ KING turns to leave; GUARDS move to follow. ]
KING: Where are you going?
GUARD: We're coming with you.
KING: No, I want you to stay here, and make sure he doesn't leave!
GUARD: Oh, I see. Right.
Schwab
Shameless show-off
Editor, A1-AAA AmeriCaptions
Patron to movie employee: Right! You stay here and make certain that the movie does not leave the cinema!
Employee: Right, we will stay here until the movie leaves the theater.
Patron: No, you stay here, and make certain the movie does not leave.
Employee: Right, we wont let people enter the theater.
Patron: No you STAY here until...
(Continue until Lancelot appears)
(Apologies for the discombobulation, this is the only part of the Holy Grail I have not memorized. It's just too convoluted...)
Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
...so why would I want to see it again in the theatres? If you ask me, Monty Python's sun has already set.
...Errr.... No.
Why would someone want to watch a movie twice? Heck, I have seen Star Wars, I don't need to buy it again. I don't need the merchandising. Oh, I have read the Lord of the Rings once a year for the last 14 years, and I guess I won't have to go see the movie either because I know what happens!
A few years back, the Meaning of Life appeared at a theater, here. I own the movie. I went to see it anyways. It was great watching this movie on the big screen (no cropping!) and, the best bonus, being there with a bunch of my friends, and a theater full of rabid Python fans.
The only thing about Monty Python and popular culture (read, Star Wars, Matrix, etc...) that is different, is that the Pythons were very talented and an extremely well educated bunch. Their sort of humor appeals more to the intellectual type (geeks) than average sit-com crap. A large proportion of their comedy is intellectual. If you get the jokes, you are suddenly part of a club. How many people would find the "Bruces Philosphers Song" (sp) outrageously funny? Not everyone I would wager. The reason I would say this is that Joe Average probably has no idea who Immanual Kant, Heidgger, David Hume et al were!
So, if you believe that the sun is setting on Python, then it must be setting on other big phenomena too. The only difference is the level of intellect required to get the subtle jokes and allusions.
Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
Come on, Drew Barrimore's not as pretty as people seem to think she is, but calling her a cow is a bit uncalled for.
--
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is kinky.
I thought I would share that the missing 24 seconds, if you weren't aware, are from Castle Anthrax, ("I can face the peril!") featuring a few quick cuts of girls doing generally bad things that you wouldn't discuss over a cup of tea with your grandmother.
Anyway.
One other story I'd like to share is from the Criterion Collection's laserdisc release of Monty Python and the Holy Grail. A fabulous edition that you can now, thanks to the death of laserdisc, get super cheap on ebay (I found it for less than $20, including shipping). On it is a fantastic commentary with Terry Gilliam and Terry Jones. Here is a comment from Terry Gilliam on the first American screening. I'm paraphrasing here, but the gist is the same:
"On our first screening, in New York, I couldn't believe the response. People were lined up around the block. I was nervous as hell, not believing what I was seeing. Saturday Night Live had yet to hit TV's across the country, and sketch comedy was generally something thought as avant garde at the time. After the screening, a couple came up to me and told me how much they respected Monty Python and loved my work. I thanked them and told them I appreciated the support.
The two were Gilda Radner and John Belushi."
- Terry Gilliam
It will be 24 seconds of them discussing about the previously unseen 24 seconds of footage..... and it'll prolly go on for at least 5 minutes.....
Feed the need: Digitaladdiction.net
That reminds me. Long ago in 1992, when the net was younger than it is now, I was working in London for the MultiMedia Corporation on a CD-Rom with Douglas Adams. He was friends with the various pythons, and he suggested that Terry Gilliam dropped in to see what we were doing with our computers.
We showed him our CD-ROM titles, and an early version of QuickTime, and mentioned Usenet in passing. he expressed interest, so we sat him down in front of the Mac that had the modem (in our cable cupboard) and showed him alt.fan.monty-python.
He was fascinated, and sat there reading it for at least 40 minutes. I remember him seeing someone ask for the script to Holy Grail and him posting his production company address for them to get a copy (of course somone else posted the entire script the next day, and no-one ever believed that Terry Gilliam was posting from our address).
Its the fact that they were too cheap for expensive actors, or props, or special effects, and all they had was their wit and natural funniness. I mean the fact that they use coconut shells for horses isnt really all that funny unless you realize that they couldn't afford horses, and they realize that too, and they just make fun of it.
Some of the newer stuff where they had money, and didn't make fun of themselves as much, isn't nearly as funny.
;)
+5:offtopic,but anti-American