Mac Nostalgia On Two Fronts

mbishop writes: "There's an article over at MacCentral about this years MacHack keynote where all the original creators of the Macintosh got together to talk about OS X and what they think about Steve Jobs." And if the early days of the Mac are too recent for you, Tom Owad writes to say that "the Apple I Owners Club, founded in 1977 by Joe Torzewski, is back, along with the most extensive reference to the Apple I in existence. The site contains over 120 pages detailing the Apple I computer."

Comments

Not really *Mac* nostalgia

[Wesley Felter]

Since the Apple I was not a Mac, Apple I owners don't necessarily have Mac nostalgia.

Apple ][ ad infinitum!

Dammit!

[sulli]

I was trying to get some work done, and then you sent me to that Apple I page ...

It's not all memories

[ageitgey]

I was watching a show on TechTV last week (bleh) and a little kid called in and asked how he could get on the internet with his Apple II. They were nice enough to explain to him how to use a shell account with his modem, but you couldn't help from noticing a sense of shock in their voices. Remember that not everyone can afford the latest equiptment and some people are stuck with ancient computers, especially kids. One man's nostalgia resource is another man's download.com.

Re:OS-X's troubles

[Auckerman]

"OS-X's biggest problems are in multimedia support. One person on the panel indicated a lack of support for color syncronization. OS-X didnt come with DVD support. Doesnt matter to me that I dont get DVD support, I just boot into OS-9 instead"

When I hear this shit, it nearly makes me sick. With all due respect, I can name no single OS on the market other than OS 9 that has has support for DVD players. Windows has API support but no actual player. Windows doesn't ship with CDR support. WIndows doesn't ship with a intergrated mp3 player that can burn CD's. Windows and Linux don't ship with advanced gaphics layers that each individually have more buzzwords in them than I could ever hope to understand (Colorsync and Quartz come to mind). The shit people complain about can't be found in the upgrades that Microsoft offers, which btw is Apples ONLY competitor. If you are gonna complain, get real. How about finishing up Classic's printing support, or the speed of Quicktime and OpenGL on non-G4's, or maybe the lack of showing inititive and actually shipping nice GUI support for NATD, NFS, et al, or maybe the fact that I have to go to a damn menu to mount an OS 9 HD, that doesn't even mention the fact that OS X ONLY supports AppleTalk over TCP/IP, which although is off by default is a fucking MAJOR secuirty risk in the hands of newbies (will your Mom use hard to guess passwords?). Get real people. If you bought OS X and then bitch about no DVD or CD-RW support, you are an idiot. It never claimed to have it on the box, you were told in advance it would not ship in the initial final release, and Windows users pay money to upgrade thier CD-RW and DVD software after they upgrade...

Re:OS X - Could it be Linux and BSD's nemesis ?

[blair1q]

I was almost sucked in by this subtle troll until this point:

while drinking a bottle of chilled Dom Perignon 73.

Aha! If you really were a Mac user, you would know that the '88 was better.

--Blair
"Can't fool me, boy."

OS-X's troubles

[jeffy124]

Another issue that needs to be addressed is Mac OS X's lack of support for some basic services that are supported in Mac OS 9

OS-X's biggest problems are in multimedia support. One person on the panel indicated a lack of support for color syncronization. OS-X didnt come with DVD support. Doesnt matter to me that I dont get DVD support, I just boot into OS-9 instead.

However, I use OS-X at work and it is absolutely brilliant for my work as a researcher and Java prorgammer. I love how Apple has fully implemented Java and the Darwin kernel so I can get down to my UNIX roots. Even though the OS-X itself is not well documented, the presense of Java and UNIX makes up for it. I have yet to run into OS-specific issues with the OS-X platform.