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Linux Kernel 2.4.6 Released
If the prospect of fireworks wasn't enough to make you happy today, there's a new Linux kernel in town. (Note: be patient; some of the mirrors aren't yet updated.) sheol writes of the new 2.4.6 release: "Yep, it's out there. Run, jump, dance in the streets. Drink and be merry. Prepare yourself for a full kernel recompile." Reader dschl says: "Looks like fixes to the Reiserfs bugs in 2.4.5 are included." Here's the changelog as well.
The mirrors usually get borked for a few days, so.. I'll put up one as well. :)
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ftp://ftp.stenstad.net/mirrors/linux-2.4.6.tar.
http://ftp.stenstad.net/mirrors/linux-2.4.6.tar
stop praising linus
so many more people work on Linux than he does.
Praise the men and women who did their work to make Linux what it is today.
This patch is pretty small and has some cool USB fixes for the desktop.
I'll be updating my desktop later today (is it tomorrow now? I don't know)
My servers will sit tight at 2.4.5 though, there's really no reason to upgrade.
-davidu
# Hack the planet, it's important.
I've been running 2.4.6pre2+CVS XFS on a server for 19 days now. No problems. I probably will upgrade to the final 2.4.6 once the official XFS 1.0.1 comes out.
I upgraded to this "beta" version after I had minor FS corruption using the kernel supplied by SGI's Red hat installer. Happened after only about 2 days of uptime.
System has an Abit VP6 MB (some kind of VIA chipset) and a SCSI drive.
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Yep, it's out there. Run, jump, dance in the streets. Drink and be merry.
Thank you that you took Caution and haven't asked for wild sex in the streets. You know, geeks and sex? This could have caused serious depression on the readership of slashdot...
I consider my Commodore 64s some of my principal computers. I haven't yet seen Linux running on those, just some "lightweight" UNIXes...
I also use Win98SE for games, sound and digital video editing and such for which Linux is not yet the best solution. Aside of that, it's all Linux.
Or, in Debian's case, apt-get install pppd; apt-get install modutils :)
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I've asked this question once on lkml. It seems 3.0 will come when usermode applications have to be relinked (eg. not likely anytime soon).
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As a Sys Admin who is in a group that runs alot of 6 way 4 gig systems, Linux 2.4.x sucks.
Yes, it has all the cool stuff we want; support for alot of devices, better SMP, and larger memory handling, however, its just not stable under high load.
I just hope that the Linux Kernel people can get their stuff together and make a stable kernel.
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Tell you what. I'll throw some tea into the river in remembrance of you, my British friend.
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Excuse me, you pretentious asshole - I live in America and am very aware of British holidays that we don't celebrate like Boxing Day and May Day. I am very aware of when the Magna Carta was signed (June 15th, 1215 at Runnymede).
Other free countries have their days of independance - July 14th for France, September 16th for Mexico (although I'll admit I had to look that one up), and July 4th for the United States of America.
Get over yourself - either you would prefer that the Slashdot crew censor themselves of all human comments (which would turn this into a stock rumor site), or you want to impress your own set of values and references upon the site. Either is a bloody narrow-minded point of view. There is a reason it's called the World Wide Web, and I'm not going to bitch if the Register mentions a British holiday in a story.
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If you're running a Freenet node, you can grab the kernel source using the following key:
freenet:SSK@sUOkGXJDjktWahCNZmvg0sDkEKgQAgE/foldr. org/linux-2.4.6.tar.bz2
since when.. i've been using 2.4.5 for ages - with reiserfs - and have had no problems...
There were problems with exporting a reiserfs partition over NFS, which was quite annoying... this may have been fixed in 2.4.5, though. If so, I'm not quite sure what the problems fixed in 2.4.6 are, but probably other wierd interactions that most people don't encounter.
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There is only one linux machine in my group, an old 486 that does print sharing protocol conversion (Samba to lpr).
We have Windows (98 / 2k depending) on the desktop, AIX and Solaris on our number crunchers, HP-UX on the cluster, and an Alpha on Dec Unix in reserve (Old alpha, not that fast). There's an SGI Indy doing print serving and visulisation software in the corner. Oh, and UNICOS is what we use on the CSAR.
We do scienfic computing (Solid state physics), and reliabiltiy is important - particularly when your talking runtimes over around a month. PC hardware doesn't cut it, until you get into the range where UNIX boxes are similar prices. Hence the range of Unixs, and very little linux.
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Don't feel so bad. There are a lot of Video4Linux drivers left out. The sony one is under heavy development and probably won't be included until it's done. There is no reason for including something that is under so much development in the kernel now. You can always patch, so what exactly is the problem.
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(Yes, I checked for a newer version first, as I downloaded the 2.4.[45] patches a while back. This probably would've happened around 2200 PDT, and it was ftp.us.kernel.org that I checked.)
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Maybe that's the real difference between "humor" and "humour."
20 January 2017: the End of an Error.
Linus starting the 2.5 branch officially is a good sign that he considers the current revision of 2.4 to be stable enough not to be the main focus of work.
2.4 is faster than 2.2 but is not that stable.
I tried it on all the machines i have but on some (some p1 desktops and laptops) i had to revert to 2.2 because 2.4 crashed WAY too much and too often. (ranging from system freezes to scads of oopses an panics). The problem is that 2.4 uses the hardware at 110% potential but if the hardware is flakey (as those pentiums were) - it will bomb.
So: stay with 2.2 on "Production"-grade machines and on machines whose hardware you don't trust 100%
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...had been going into the 2.4.5-ac kernels (at least the sonypi one, not sure about the motioneye patch for the C1 camera), but are nowhere to be seen in the release kernel :( I thought that Alan Cox had merged all of his patches in for this release, or has Linus decided they aren't worthwhile?
*sobs*
Ah well, I'll just have to patch it myself again then, as us Vaio users aren't important enough for Linus (even though he has a C1 himself...)
Windows 95 at home, Windows 2000 at work.
Well, I thought threads were implemented as Light Weight Processes (this is why Java and other programs such as realplayer show up in the process table more than once) so I don't see how this is possible.
Cryptnotic
My other first post is car post.
I'm using the ReiserFS implementation in 2.4.3, and have had no problems at all with it. Am I missing something here?
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I pledge allegiance to the flag...
of the Corporate States of America...
Not a bad guess though. Much better than the man on "The Weakest Link" who thought Canada used to be part of Spain, and declared independance in 1812 :)
God save our Queen, and Heaven bless The Maple Leaf Forever!
Actually, AFAIK, GCC 3.0 compiles the kernel just fine...
A fair question, if slightly off-topic-- I use Red Hat Linux 7.1 in a dual-boot config with Windows 2000 Server. On my server system (dual Pentium III 800's, with 1.25GB PC133) I run Windows 2000 Server exclusivly. I usually find myself more in Windows than in Linux, but I use Linux to develop apps/etc.
All I know about Bush is I had a good job when Clinton was president.
I was about to bitch about this because I just barely went to -pre9 on several machines, but from the ChangeLog it looks like '-pre9' became 'final' so I can just let those stay in place.
Or is the ChangeLog not yet complete? (Say, ChangeLog-pre1?)
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
By that point, Linux will be powering all our flying cars, I bet!
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here in california, i know people with medicinal marijuana perscriptions who are "underage". Thats right, they can legally get high, but arn't allowed to drink. Though I personally prefer pot over liquor any day, I think it should all be legal in the first place. The laws arn't working; they're just making it cooler because there's a societal taboo being broken.
Moderators: Yes, this is WAY offtopic from the new linux kernel. Do your bussiness. My +1 Bonus will protect me at first, but I know I'm in the wrong and can only last so long.
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VIA Chipsets (KT133A) are also causing problems on *gasp* windows machines. Check out Real World Tech's latest industry update (found here). Its on the second page in the first paragraph. Basically if you stick an SB Live soundcard on some of the KT133A based mobos you get, you guessed, data corruption.
I guess this just adds to the cannon fodder
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I have been using the ac-series until prepatch 18 and experienced problems with the 8139too modules.
Nice that these problems seem to be away now with 2.4.6.
Also I noticed the presence of an option for the MIDI-part of my via82cxx onboard-soundcard.
Havent't tried it yet though...
Dunno about that - if the site has been slashdotted, a 1.7MB file may take several hours :)
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Just out of curiousity... how many other Slashdot readers beside myself don't use some flavour Linux on one of their principal computers?
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What fireworks? Is something happening today?
Who do we appreciate?
This is one of the Via bugs. Don't compile with Athlon optimizations, use the K6 series instead and you'll be ok.
Maybe that's because you are using IDE drives. Although you can plug in 2 IDE drives per channel (giving you a total of 4 for 2 channels), only *one* of them can work at a time. While one is working the other one is waiting. Unlike SCSI, the two drives *cannot* share the bandwidth of the IDE channel and work simultaneously. So the only way you can get a linear increase from IDE is if you use two drives on two *different* IDE channels. I suspect that's your problem.
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The page_launder changes were backed out and then Linus wrote his own fix for the problem. So, no.
60 minutes? The patch is only about 1.4mb (bz2).
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So where is all this free beer everyone is always talking about?
Slackware 8.0 - which ships with 2.4.5 - comes with a small patch to fix that particular problem.
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Of course it will. Just wait - you'll be running Windows XP on your washing machine within ten years. You'll know that the system crashed when your laundry comes out bright blue and covered in silly numbers!
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The change from 2.2.x to 2.4.x is surprisingly painless (much less painful than any "user-level" major change, like back when the day when going from libc5 to glibc2 practically needed reinstallation of the whole dist). No recompilation or reinstallation of stuff was necessary.
Personally, the only thing that needed special attention was the firewall thing, and even that wasn't top priority (because the kernel has an ipchains comparibility mode). Ultimately, the conversion of my firewall script from ipchains to iptables was rather easy.
Well, not exactly wrong :)
The bigger problem is finding out what exactly is wrong. The only information available so far has been reverse engineered (AFAIK) and posted on the 3rd party site viahardware.com. So far all the information we have is "before BIOS update X" and "after BIOS update X" snapshots of the system setup.
It's pretty easy to figure out real quick which systems are broken. It's tougher to figure out what is broken, and what the right fix is.
No doubt I am biased, but I disagree.
There are noteworthy VM fixes, buffer I/O deadlock fixes, and vfs fixes.
Plus the usual raft of driver fixes and merges from Alan Cox's tree. See Alan Cox's changelog as a supplement to the official changelog from Linus. Linus compresses many changes from Alan into a single word in the changelog, "merges."
LWP's are Solaris-specific. Linux threads are implemented as processes which share memory, filehandles, etc.
Linux threads can't block other threads since there is no difference to a process. And offcource, a process can't block all other processes ;-)
You may want to switch to another pthreads implementation. Quite a few (at least three) implementations exist and you're probably using the all-userspace implementation. This one simulates threads in userspace and doesn't use native threads.
AFAIK the later glibc 2.x implementations use native threads.
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Well, not exactly wrong. What I gathered from the kernel mailing list, the problem seems to be that VIA has shipped a whole series of different chipsets with bugs using the same version number. The problem is that there is no way one could make a nice workaround. As the owner of a motherboard with a VIA 686 chipset I can assure you that is a real PITA. I encountered the most horrible lockups. Luckily enough I had a Promise ATA100 PCI controller and ever since I put my HD on that one my system has been rock solid.
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I have been reading Kernel Traffic regularly (looks like there's a new one tonight incedentally). Seems like there are some problems they've been having trouble sorting out. To my knowledge (again, limited to KT), they are still pending and in fact the latest kernels would be considered rather unstable for a stable series. In particular, the Virtual Memory subsystem has problems. I don't understand the details but higher memory systems >256MB can run into FS corruption. And last I heard they've written off VIA as an incompetent chipset manufacturer meaning they haven't a clue why VIA machines lock up. Someone *please* flame me for being wrong!
I believe that despite what the documentation says, any thread (at least under pthreads) that performs disc IO may block the entire process and prevent other threads from running. This is a problem the Flash high-performance web server had to get around by using multiple processes just for disc IO. Can anyone tell me categorically that this bug has been fixed or give me some idea of when it will be fixed?
Allow me to remind you not to download the WHOLE kernel tarball over and over again.
Use the kernel patches and patch your kernel source as described in the Kernel HOWTO.
This will save you precious time, bandwidth and will cause less load on the servers.