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NASA In Financial Trouble

JoeGee writes "And it's not the Russian Space Agency. According to the Associated Press, as reported on Yahoo, NASA is looking at 4 billion US dollars worth of budget over-runs through 2006. This isn't surprising, considering the lack of budget increases, and the continued financial pressure.

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  1. Poor NASA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    It sure sounds bad for NASA, but I'm guessing one of their accountants just swapped a dollar sign with a British pound sign, and their math is off by a few billion.

  2. 'waste of money' ... riiiiight.... by Jubedgy · · Score: 5

    And when our oceans get seeded with alien life that migrates onto land and reproduces by shooting little hatchlings into us which can't be removed and we aren't able to move into space chandeliers because we don't have the expertise to build them because building space stations were a complete waste of money....what'll that guy be saying then?!

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  3. Basic Math... by Auckerman · · Score: 5
    4 Billion through 2006...lets see thats what 800 Million over budget per year...there are about 280 Million people in the US..which means $2.85/person/year in taxes....

    That just happends to be about how much more money I will see every 2 weeks in my pay check after the "tax break"

    I can do without the money if it means human curosity can not be fullfilled....

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    1. Re:Basic Math... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4

      You're forgetting about the hidden costs of NASA holding back private space launches. Since, oh, around 1975 it can be argued that NASA has done more damage to human exploration than any entity in history.

      If you care about humans going to space, as I do, do everything in your power to kill NASA and have it folded into the US military where it belongs.

      We don't have cheap airline flight because of the government, my friend.


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    2. Re:Basic Math... by zhensel · · Score: 5

      The founding fathers also thought that women shouldn't be allowed to vote and that slaves should count as three-fifths of a person in the census. Too bad those dirty socialists had to come along and change the constitution. By the way, by your logic, the entirety of our current form of government is allowed by the original constitution because, guess what, the founding fathers did believe that the role of government would expand and allowed for this by providing the amendment process. Imagine that! They not only were fallible, but they knew it and planned for it.

      The US is still a democracy. It's not a pure democracy, but it's hardly communist or even socialist. Hell, name one nationally socialized institution. Education, transportation, civil services, utilities, etc are all controlled mostly by states. The FAA is the only major federal regulatory body that controls an entire industry and even that has been deregulated quite a bit lately. If you want to see socialism, go check out most of Europe and come back here to report your findings on how evil the US is. Be sure to see how many things simply work better in Europe because they are partly or wholly socialized - medicine, education, transportation. Be sure to look at the skyline of your favorite European city and then compare it to that of the city you arrive at on the way back to see the obvious difference in pollution.

      Way to bust out the McCarthyism with all that "anti-American" bullshit too. You are truly a model American - wishing that the homeless rot in the street and our scientists stay anchored to the ground. If science isn't publically funded, then all advances will be hoarded by private corporations. Free-market capitalism could be an excellent system without a pesky thing called greed. I'll agree that some of NASA's projects (namely the Moon landing) were probably of little scientific value. To say that their more recent work lends no benefit to the taxpayer, however, is ludicrous. Knowledge of the universe benefits the entire human race. Besides, once Libertarians take control of America and fuck it up beyond recognition, we'll need to know where to move to.

  4. Re:Tax rebate? by b0r1s · · Score: 4

    F'ing Bush..

    Why dont you complain to the people who allocate the money, ie: your congressmen. Bush tells them what he wants, and eventually signs the bill, but they have the opportunity to control and the policy.

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  5. Not surprising.. Bush is a control freak! by perdida · · Score: 5

    NASA is and has always been somewhat of a supporting agency to US armed forces, so stuff about its budgeting should be considered along with military budgeting issues.

    Remember that Bush is demanding accurate accounting from the Pentagon now about its needs for the year- it won't budget deliberately expecting supplementary spending bills in the middle of the year. Every agency, including NASA, will have to have tight budgets from here on in.

    This is a manner of managerial control; without secret expenditures, there can be no secret activity with government money. The same applies to NASA

    Nasa's unprecedented reporting of its true budgetary situation fits clearly into political context here. It's jumping the gun with full financial disclosure as well as pressuring congresspeople and scientists who support it to raise more money for next fiscal year, even if it has to function under a tighter accounting.

    Of course, this may be the start of more privatization of space. NASA can do much more with private money than it can with public money. Remember a lot of the funds in Iran-contra affair were originally private money.

  6. Re:more than enough for space bombs though by Xandis · · Score: 5

    I don't think this is a Republican vs. Democrat issue. Neither side is championing space exploration or more NASA funding in anything other than a token way.

    One problem is that it isn't as easy to answer the "What's the point?" question as it is for funding for life sciences research like fighting cancer, a vaccine for HIV, etc.

    Why explore Mars? Personally I haven't a clue. Why try to find a cure for cancer? Because I might get it. When political pollsters get the mood of people I think Space Research is near the bottom of the list.

  7. Why are slashdotters so hostile to NASA? by meepzorb · · Score: 5

    Whenever a NASA article comes up on slashdot, the user comments always break my heart.

    Fact: Good engineering is EXPENSIVE. Building, testing, and operating a manned spacecraft is a tad more complex than writing a perl script or configuring a linux kernel.

    Add to those pressures a dwindling budget (a fraction of what it was during the Apollo era) and very little public support, even from those who would present themselves as forward-thinking technical types, and I'm frankly surprised that NASA's track record in the 1990s was as good as it was.

    Alas, I've pretty much resigned myself to the fact that modern American culture is probably incapable of supporting a serious and useful space program, and I can only hope that I am still alive, and useful, when other nations get their act together to pick up where we left off.

    :Michael

  8. Re:Closing the Washington Monument? by 4of12 · · Score: 5

    Working on government dollars, I really feel for NASA's plight.

    Despite their desire to "Just Do Good Space Science", their money originates from a political process that is subject to the kind of vicissitudes that would make your stomach feel like its been stapled to a pig carcass in the hot sun. The higher ups in NASA that have to deal with congressional funding authorities are worth every penny you pay them.

    I recall many bright idealistic astronomers and physicists from school that I wish could really contribute to the agenda of what they get to work on at NASA.

    Imagine getting the ideas of what to do from the bottom up instead of the top down. What a concept!

    I know, I know, the public wants bread and circus, so we'll just end up funding whatever contributes to those ends (emotion-ridden manned missions with entertainment value), but allow me to fantasize for a few seconds...

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  9. Re:more than enough for space bombs though by (H)elix1 · · Score: 5

    Don't knock the Mil spending. Its one of the few area's you can get funding for things that look even close to pure research - be that physics, biochem, whatever. It does not _HAVE_ to make a profit - the first time in is always expensive. If your lucky, the tech/knowhow will work its way back into your lives.