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Talking with Matrox

SystemLogic writes " SystemLogic.net has posted an interview with Matrox. They cover many topics, especially based around the G550 which was recently announced. Other things include the reason for leaving the 3D performance market, Linux support, future technologies, company economics, Athlon MP support, and more."

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  1. Matrox Driver Lies by tomblackwell · · Score: 4

    Matrox has hung a (previously very loyal) segment of their market out to dry by promising, then not releasing functional drivers for their MJPEG video-capture cards. When the date of the driver release arrived, they announced that they were dropping support for the MJPEG recording features of the cards, essentially turning a $200-$300 compressed-stream capture card into the equivalent of a $29 TV tuner.

    The Matrox Droid does mention that "It is usually better to release less updates that are robust with a lot of bug fixes than a lot of frequent updates that resolve less issues and have not been QA'd extensively". In my experience, Matrox has trumpeted features of their cards, and operating systems that they will (eventually) run under, but then has given up because it would be too difficult to make the drivers work correctly.

    I would highly recommend that anyone who might be considering buying a Matrox product steer clear of them.

    1. Re:Matrox Driver Lies by marcop · · Score: 2

      Thanks for posting this. I am ticked for the exact same reason. My experience:

      I bought the Marvel G450 in March after readin many positive comments off of usenet about the card. I wanted to use it under Win2K since it is the best platform for video capture. However, I had numerous driver problems/conflicts and had to eventually drop to WinME. I lost the ability to have larger than 4GB files (something that Win2K would have given me). I didn't mind much since Matrox said they were working on it. Then a few months later they announced they were dropping MJPEG support from Win2K (as you mentioned). I can still do video capture, but have to limit high quality capture to only a few minute segments.

  2. Matrox MIL capture by hackman · · Score: 5

    That interview had too many graphics acronyms for my taste. I know plenty about computers, but keeping up with all the latest Graphics acronyms is too much for me.

    Matrox has some decent graphics boards, and I think they're going the right direction by leaning away from the gaming 3d market.. However my most frequent interaction with Matrox is through their capture boards. Our Computer Vision and Robotics Lab uses a lot of their Video Capture cards (MeteorII) and I sure would like to have had a couple questions asked about that as well, but then I guess not many people care about video capture in this audience.

    If you're in the know, the new MIL licensing scheme seems absolutely ridiculous and appears to be getting worse - the prices for their vision libraries are through the roof ($2000 and up!). I can't imagine it being worthwhile for anyone to spend the thousands required to purchase a license for the new full MIL version! Especially when good and free libraries like the Intel IPL and OpenCV and Microsoft Vision SDK are available for free.

    Brett
    UCSD Computer Vision and Robotics Laboratory

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    1. Re:Matrox MIL capture by Keeper · · Score: 2

      I've actually just started using MIL Lite where I work at. I've actually been rather surprised at how the library is written -- been very easy to wade through, as opposed to other 3rd party software I've been subjected too. Additionally, support that they provide has been top notch as well. One of their reps actually ended up writing some GNL code to work around a problem we were having (there isn't a mechanism to cancel a grab in progress via MIL). Their liscensing is expensive, however (as far as I know) you don't need a liscense for each site you deploy software to. The reason WHY it's expensive because a) it has a small market b) it's GOOD c) they spend a lot of money supporting the product

  3. Re:mirror here - it's slashdotted by GC · · Score: 2

    yep... mod this one down as soon as you can please.

  4. Re:Headcasting not as important as true Dual-Displ by mbyte · · Score: 4

    you should download the latest win2k drivers ;)

    g400 dual head working as 2 cards flawless here under 2k .. it took some time, but its worth ! :)

  5. Re:They are targetting the right market by Jailbrekr · · Score: 2

    Yes, NVidia is diversifying, but will they spread themselves too thin in the process?

    The real money is in the chipset, so it is expected that EVERYONE will be collectively tackling Intels monopoly on chipsets.....

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  6. HeadCasting is emotionless by jpmkm · · Score: 2

    HeadCasting is great, but it doesn't capture one important aspect of talking face-to-face - facial expressions. All it does is move the lips according to your voice. I'd imagine this is pretty cool, but somewhat pointless. It just adds a fake dimension to the conversation.

    Matrox is cool, though. I love my G450. I don't play 3d games much, but it is sufficient for when I do. I don't feel the need to upgrade to a G550 anytime soon, however.

  7. Technical value ? by freuddot · · Score: 2

    Take the technical side lightly ...
    Interviewer: "I wonder if that's even more than the number of T&L titles shipping today?"
    Sounds a little misinformed, since, in most case, you have no change to make to your program in order fot it to be accelerated my T&L. And if you're using OpenGL, you'll have a very hard time making your program not benifit from T&L.

  8. Headcasting not as important as true Dual-Display by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 3

    Frankly, I think that the G550's head-casting system is not nearly as important an improvement as their solution to the dual-display problems that were plaguing G400's and G450's. The problem has been that Windows NT and subsequent evolutions (namely, 2000) would not allow for true independent dual displays on a single card without multiple video card processors. I don't know how they got around Microsoft's software limitations with the new G550, but they should be lauded for their achievements. As far as I know, Matrox is the only single-processor card manufacturer that has been able to solve this problem.

    On the other hand, headcasting technology seems to be a pretty bad diversionary tactic to the onslaught of far superiour 3D boards (namely nVidia). "Oh yeah, we do 3D, too. But it's business 3D." Sure, whatever guys.

    It is rather impressive to think that they've done all this without IPO millions (as they're still a privately owned company).

  9. That's not true! by Newtonian_p · · Score: 3
    First of all, Matrox have made Linux drivers available: http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/h ome.cfm

    And second of all, Matrox support the Direct Rendering Open Source project which makes an open source DRI drivers for XFree 4 for Matrox cards (and others):
    http://dri.sourceforge.net/

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  10. Matrox G550, A choice of features over performance by martinbogo · · Score: 2

    Two weeks ago I had a chance to work with a graphics workstation that was using two Cinema displays dual headed onto two G550 video boards at Pacific Data Images. PDI is probably best known for the work they did on Antz.

    If the emphasis isn't on 3D performance, I certainly couldn't tell. The 3D performace was very crisp, certainly much improved over the G450. The project underway had Far Too Many Objects(tm), but the animation engineer had no problem winding through the scene and performing the character animation with no visible delay at all.

    If you are into benchmarks, and /must/ get every erg out of your video card, the G550 may dissapoint. However, under just about any other circumstance this new MGA card is nothing short of blazing.

    For those who have not seen it yet :

    System Logic G550 Preview

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  11. Related news by Tallier · · Score: 3

    SystemLogic has their preview of the G550 posted at http://www.systemlogic.net/articles/01/6/g550previ ew