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EFF Gets Meeting With Adobe

Posted by Hemos on from the making-progress dept.

A number of people have sent in the e-mail that just crossed the free-sklyarov mailing list, that essentially states that the EFF and Adobe will have a meeting July 23rd. They are putting planned protest on hold. Click below for more information.Update: 07/20 11:25 PM by H : Thanks to all the folks who e-mailed me; the EFF is asking for the protests to be put on hold, but from what I've seen in my inbox, the protests are still being planned. To reinforce this: The EFF is asking to hold off on the protests, but planners are still moving ahead with this.

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Congratulations folks!

The pressure we all have put on Adobe has resulted in an agreement to meet with representatives from the Electronic Frontier Foundation on this Monday morning, July 23.

For that reason, EFF has decided to:

PUT THE JULY 23 PROTEST ON HOLD

Please help us act in good faith and postpone the protest until we have a chance to negotiate with Adobe.

Of course, we can always rekindle the protest if Adobe does not agree to withdraw their complaint to the US Department of Justice regarding Dmitry Sklyarov and to refuse to pursue further prosecutions under the DMCA for cases that should be prevented under fair use provisions of US copyright law.

And also, if the US Attorney's office insists on prosecuting Dmitry without a current complaint from Adobe, then we will continue protests directed at them rather than at Adobe.

If you still feel that you have to protest on Monday, you are of course free to do so. However, it may be a more effective use of our collective energies to act in a coordinated way to get Dmitry out of jail.

I am writing a media release to this effect as soon as I sent this email to you... wanted you all to know first.

Free Dmitry,

Will Doherty
Online Activist / Media Relations
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF)
Web http://www.eff.org

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  1. DO NOT CANCEL THE PROTESTS!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5

    DO NOT CANCEL THE PROTESTS!

    What good is adobe going to do, they have 0 legal jurisdiction over getting Dmitry out of jail.

    This just goes to show that Adobe is afraid of the bad press.

    Adobe is going to welcome the EFF team, blow smoke up their asses for half of an hour and show them the door.

    DO NOT CANCEL THE PROTEST, once you stop this momentum you will not regain it.

    Maybe attention should be focused on the FBI, DOJ, and Congress for passing such a farcical law.

    Just who are EFF working for anyhow?
    Does anyone at EFF care to disclose just how much Adobe Donates to them anually?

    anonymous hero
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    Unauthorized decryption prohibited under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act.
    Violators will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
    *snicker*

  2. Meet at the snake. by dmarti · · Score: 5

    Hi, I'm Don Marti, main contact person for the San Jose event.

    We will be meeting as planned at the snake sculpture, in downtown San Jose at the corner of S. Market St. and W. San Carlos St., at 11:00 AM.

    From there we can march on Adobe or go home as the situation requires.

    I would put a Sun Tsu quote here but I am pretty busy right about now.

  3. Protest NOT Cancelled! by Dredd13 · · Score: 5
    Despite EFF's requests, the majority of the protest participants believe that EFF is caving too quickly. Adobe has agreed "to talk to the EFF" Monday morning, but solely on the grounds that the EFF "calls off the dogs" so to speak.

    Most of us feel that this is proof positive that the effectiveness of the protests is working, and that they must continue to operate under a deadline of Monday.

    EFF folks were quoted as saying that (paraphrased) "Adobe couldn't get the right people in the room" over the weekend. There's nowhere on the planet they couldn't get the right people into the room if they wanted to, so they obviously value "something else" (whether its a business deal or someone's tee-time) more than they value solving this dilemma they're in.

    Nothing stops until that guy is on a jet in international airspace departing the US a free man.

    The irony -- to DEPART the US to become a Free Man. *sigh*

    1. Re:Protest NOT Cancelled! by avdp · · Score: 5

      Did not break US law because it did not happen in the US and the US has no jurisdiction over what a Russian citizen does in Russia. And considering that what he did in Russia is not even illegal there, there really truly is something wrong with this scenario.

      To me this is like visiting China and getting arrested because they've learned (in one way or another) that you surfed the internet for porn while you were at home...

      And giving a talk about something at a conference is and has always been protected by free speech.

    2. Re:Protest NOT Cancelled! by mojo-raisin · · Score: 5

      I completely agree. This company is responible for holding a man hostage. Their executives should be meeting with the EFF now. Forcing Dmitri to spend a weekend in jail for this shows no good will by Adobe.

      Protest ON!

  4. Re:Terrible Headline, Hemos by gmhowell · · Score: 5

    I would say that Slashdot just made a mistake. But... There's another POV:

    Slashdot and EFF are the 'legitimate' and publicly accepted arms of the lunatic fringe. The people organizing the protest are the armed combatants and the nuts who give the EFF and /. their voice.

    I might be looking at getting a serious down-modding, but it seems similar to the Sin Fein (sorry for butchering the spelling) and the IRA. Or similar splits amongst various Muslim groups.

    One group comes to the table and talks. The other group beats on the windows and burns cars outside.

    I find myself a fence-sitter. I was prepared to take off of work Monday had their been a protest in Wash. DC or Richmond, but I might very well have backed down.

    My real concern is that the Monday protest would have likely gathered numbers due to the emotions involved. By delaying it, even if only for a few days, emotions will cool (especially other fencesitters, as well as those in the totally rational front) and the turnout will likely be less. The upshot is that more time=more chance to get the word out.

    So, without playing devil's advocate: I think /. made a slight mistake in word usage (given their overall poor grammar, this is no surprise). But it can also be viewed as one member of one of the parts of the movement trying to cool down some hot heads. Unfortunately, rather than people listening to protesters, they are beating the shit out of them, and making efforts to conduct their meetings and so forth without an opportunity for protest at all. (The virtual WTO summit ideas, ie)

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    Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
  5. THE BOSTON PROTEST IS STILL ON! by cananian · · Score: 5

    See http://freesklyarov.org/boston for more info. Many other groups will still be protesting on Monday, as well. It's rather irresponsible of Slashdot to infer that the game's over!

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    [ /. is too noisy already -- who needs a .sig? ]
  6. DENVER MEETING IS STILL ON by dexter1 · · Score: 5

    The meeting scheduled for tonight regarding the denver protest is still on. This page has the details

  7. Essay - DMCA Threatens Individual/Natl Security by cybermerc99 · · Score: 5

    From one of my mailing lists...

    National Security and Individual Freedoms: How the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) Threatens Both.

    The article is here."

    A good read, particularly after the crap Adobe is pulling with poor Dmitry.