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ARIN IPv6 Allocation Policy

possible writes: "ARIN has announced the last call for public comments on its proposed IPv6 address allocation policy. This last call for public comments will expire on 23:59 EDT August 03, 2001."

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  1. Allocate by region based on population. Leave room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4

    Use a logical GEOGRAPHIC based struct, 3 bits for the continent, 16 bits for the nation, 24 for the city, 48 for the company/individual, and 32 for each of the last cagegory to play with. As for the remaining 5. Let that designate the planet. Plan ahead. You've got 128 bits, right?

  2. static addressing by No-op · · Score: 5

    well, one thing with IPv6 (kind of like IPX in this respect) is that the last 48 bits of your address are your MAC address. while this is ethernet (and compatible) addressing specific, that's most everything these days. so it's not even a matter of static or dynamic anymore, as everything just *IS* what it is, and that's about it. I don't know if you remember the IPX days, or even experienced them, but there wasn't much of an issue with addressing with it (at least in the same respect as we have with IP now.) I look forward to IP addressing being less of an issue.

    That being said, routing protocols will need to be furthered, and some of the new routing protocols as well as the IPv6 versions of old standbys (like BGP, OSPF, etc) are pretty slick. think about the amount of route summarization you'd need to do for BGP so you don't kill yourself! we're talking massive exponentional expansions in potential routes. ouch. I think that's why most of the IPv6 space is going to be kept close together to save us all the hassle of watching our older equipment die under the load. thinking of all those little ISP's loading up IPv6 BGP on a cisco 3640 or something equivalent just makes me want to cry :)

    Here's a good link on the routing issues moving to IPv6: http://www.t17.ds.pwr.wroc.pl/~misiek/ipv6/!Docume ntation/ip6routing.html

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  3. Lets just hope Verizon follows through.. by cybrthng · · Score: 4
    With IPv6 i may finally be able to get a static ip through verizon!!!

    But then again, i may be dreaming.

    On the otherhand, is it possible for someone to do virtual ip's in some fashion? Like a vpn connection that authenticates the client and then does shortest path routing? Something like provider x assigns me 222.222.222.222 through the vpn and then bgp's the routes to the dynamic ip address by weights (so that your traffic still goes through your local provider and doesn't need to be tunneled through the vpn).

    Just wondering. Too many big companies screwing over the lil guys and customers. "It is our policy to not assign static ip's". Thats like saying you sell me a 100% connect dedicated DSL circuit and say i need dynamic ip's because it saves your space on your ip subnets.. thats bs since the same customers are going to be on.. save yourself a dhcp server and assign ips. If your all about spam and email filtering with your new no smtp/pop outside of verizon email addy policy then why not implement static ip's so you can CATCH the people doing it instead of chasing them elsewhere and ruining services for people who don't do bad.

  4. Everyone can have huge networks by Que_Ball · · Score: 5

    They are basically saying that in IPv6 everyone will be given a /48 which means that as you connect to your ISP it will automatically give you a range of IP addresses large enough for you to have 2^16 or 65536 different subnets. Because IPv6 is a 64bit network with 64bit host system that means each subnet can have practically an unlimited number of devices in it. You can basically give every piece of dust floating around in your house an IP address and each room could be on it's own subnet!

    And still as they state, they can easily give up to 178 billion of these /48 network numbers away until address assignment starts to become an issue again which still leaves 85% of the address space unused.

    Now the real trick as the article alludes to but doesn't really address is the complexity of handling the routing for multihomed sites. Someone still has to figure out how to make multihomed routing easy, fast, and efficient.

    1. Re:Everyone can have huge networks by Guppy06 · · Score: 4
      Not a chance. You missed this line:

      "and /128 when it is absolutely known that one and only one device is connecting."

      Unless they want to dish out huge amounts of money upgrading their hardware and increasing their bandwidth, your ISP is going to give you one and only one IP. For us home users, pricing and distribution won't be much different from IPv4.

  5. Re:Finally an IP addr for my Coffee Machine by alteridem · · Score: 5

    > telnet coffee.appliance.myhome.org

    Welcome to the BrewMatic 4000
    Running Linux 2.4.14

    Login:root
    Password:******

    # cd /dev
    # mv /dev/oldfilter /dev/null
    # cp /dev/newfilter /dev/filter
    # mv /var/spool/coffee /dev/filter
    # brew --cups 12
    # exit
    > _

  6. Re:Allocate by region based on population. Leave r by hattig · · Score: 4
    So you intend to limit IPv6 to 32 interplanetary bodies?

    Where is your forward thinking? :)

    On the other hand, I do agree with you regarding the heirarchical designation, however it appears that ARIN want to give everyone a /48 address by default (that is 2^80 addresses per person). Only 1/8th of the IPv6 address space will be available (001 designation) by default, allowing 2^45 entities to have up to 2^80 addresses.

    The paper says that there will be 10billion people on the Earth by 2050. I bet IPv6 will last until 2100 at least though, and you shouldn't design upgrades into the system for something anyway, so assume that it will last forever...

    In 3000, the Interplanetary Confederation will have 10 trillion people under its finger, and 100 billion companies (imagine giving each of those a unique name to avoid .com naming problems!). 2^45 is more than the sum of these (2^35), so even then IPv6 will be fine. I assume that the average person will not have more than 2^80 IPv6 addressable elements on or within their body though. I think this is reasonable... !

  7. Re:Finally an IP addr for my Coffee Machine by andyh1978 · · Score: 5

    Welcome to the BrewMatic 4000
    Running Linux 2.4.14

    Login:root
    Password:******

    Brewing as root? With all the coffee buffer overflow exploits around?

  8. what? by vectus · · Score: 5
    a link to an informative article.. no spelling errors.. no long rant about something no one is interested it..

    this can't be slashdot.. if it is.. i feel kind of betrayed..

  9. Let me get this straight... by Guppy06 · · Score: 4
    "This document is a draft position of the IAB and IESG. Comments should be directed to iab@isi.edu and iesg@ietf.org. This note will be removed upon publication as an RFC."

    So they're requesting for comments before it gets publicized as a Request For Comments? No wonder the internet is so fucked up!