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Genesis Mission - Search For Origins

kurros writes "For those who haven't been following the project, the Genesis will finally lift off Monday at 12:36pm EDT. The launch will of course be aired on NASA TV. The Genesis mission is a step towards understanding exactly what the Sun and planets in our system are made up of, and hopefully provide data to help explain its origins."

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  1. Re:Patrick Bateman, esq.: by JimPooley · · Score: 2

    Phil Collins: "I'm talking nonce sense."

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  2. I hope... by sconeu · · Score: 2

    I hope that Khan doesn't get his hands on this! Why, he might blow up the Mutara Nebula!

    KHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN!!!!!! KHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

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  3. Re:Returning to the Moon by JimPooley · · Score: 2

    All you have to do is convince Dubya that Saddam and the Chinese are going to build a moonbase, and there'll be Americans on the moon building a moonbase before Dubya gets kicked out of office.

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  4. Returning to the Moon by apsmith · · Score: 2

    Actually, I've seen plans for a human return to the Moon using existing (or soon to be available) launch vehicles that could do the mission in 2003 or 2004 if we really wanted to. It'd probably cost one or two billion dollars over NASA's planned budgets, and would land facilities to actually start the construction of a permanently manned base on the Moon (which would take a series of such visits to actually set up). The time is probably close to right for this - I hope it goes somewhere and doesn't just get swallowed in the NASA bureaucracy never to emerge!

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  5. Re:Spending cuts.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Talk about closed-minded. Anytime someone posts something on /. with any hint of Christian beliefs, it gets modded down to troll. Usually with flames saying "what about all the other religions.. not everyone believes.. blah blah" Why is everyone here so closed minded towards Christianity? It's like the mentality that "well if it's popular it must be bad and anti-geek" or something. Do you believe in the free practice of religion? Do you believe in free speech? Are you against censorship? So why would you subdue an alternative viewpoint to your own?

  6. not the fault of NASA by CrudPuppy · · Score: 2

    obviously the broken link reflects on the careless
    nature of the poster and not NASA...

    but on the upside, I have worked personally with
    both the Pricipal Investigator and a couple of
    the Co-Investigators of this project in the past,
    and I can tell you that if any NASA project has
    ever had great possibilities and promise of
    bringing home evidence capable of changing theories
    it is this one. These people are all absolute
    top-notch scientists that are capable of a
    synergetic teamwork that can forever change
    how people view the early universe.

    the bottom line -- stay tuned for their results,
    because if they succeed they will have hard
    evidence for which to prove and/or disprove
    many existing astrophysical theories...

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  7. Genesis overload by Rogerborg · · Score: 2

    From the quirky-but-pointless department: every tech company I've worked with has had a project called Genesis that's been running for years, hasn't produce anything, but hasn't been cut. Here's my theory why:

    Budget meeting:

    • PHB #1: We need to half the budget to pay for the CEO's new Ferrari.
    • PHB #2: How about if we cut this Genesis thing? It's been running for years but nobody really knows what it is or what it's supposed to produce.
    • PHB #1: You fool! You can't cut Genesis!
    • PHB #2: Uh, why not?
    • PHB #1: Say it out loud. Genesis. Genesis! . With a name like that, it must be important. Do you want to be known as the guy who killed Genesis?
    • PHB #2: Now that you put it like that... OK, let's just cut the training budget again.
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  8. Re:Spending cuts.. by well_jung · · Score: 2
    Dear friend, it is not due to our lack of appreciation for differences of opinion (so long as it isn't about OS related issues). It seems that a great many actions have been taken in God's name by Christians throuhgout the last few K years that are quite contrary to values us smart people take for granted.

    Like burning books and libraries and museums, persecuting learned men, burning literate women (for being literate), and keeping a tight lipped monopoly on the bulk of relevant historical artifacts.

    Not to mention the utter hypocrisy of most Amerikan Christians, who would sooner die than actaully live thier lives as Jesus allegedly would have. Forgive us if we are a bit jaded concerning the genuineness of your 'position'. That is WJWD, isn't it?


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  9. Re:Domain for sale? by jeffy124 · · Score: 3
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  10. Genesis Mission by sourcehunter · · Score: 2

    Lets hope the knowledge and technology gained from this doesn't fall into the wrong hands. We all know what happened last time that happened.

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  11. Extreme Helicopter Capture! by MulluskO · · Score: 2

    From the press kit... In September 2004, the samples will arrive on Earth in a dramatic helicopter capture. As the sample return capsule parachutes toward the ground at the U.S. Air Force's Utah Testing and Training Range, specially trained helicopter pilots will catch it on the fly to prevent the delicate samples from being disturbed by the impact of a parachute landing. The samples will be taken to NASA's Johnson Space Center, Houston, Texas, where the collector materials will be stored and distributed for analysis. The samples will be maintained under extremely clean conditions to preserve their purity for scientif-ic study throughout the century.

    Thats sounds like it might be worth watching. Does anyone know the details of the recovery? I'd guess that they plan on using a net of some kind. NASA really needs this, just to put something out there that can impress Joe Taxpayer.

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    1. Re:Extreme Helicopter Capture! by nathanm · · Score: 5

      I'd imagine they'd use something similar to the Fulton "Skyhook" nose recovery system. Film from the first US spy satellites, the Corona series, returned to Earth in capsules that were retrieved by C-130s as they parachuted down.

      Specially designated JC-130s were used to test the concept in the 1960s. The system was also used to pick people up from the ground in-flight. The Air Force retired the system on its MC-130 Combat Talons in 1996.

      There are some pretty good photos of Fulton equipped C-130s on this page.

  12. Re:Spending cuts...responding to trolls...etc. by Khan+Fused · · Score: 3
    ... responding against my better judgement

    a) "(Unmanned) Exploration missions have no tangible benefit" #1 -- certain theorists on earth are ...um... SUGGESTING... that an increase in this thing called "greenhouse gasses" could cause elevated temperatures on earth, from when heat coming up from the planet is reflected back down. This sounds kind of like that planet ...um, what's it's name? ...umm... VENUS???? A world where the surface temperature (due to a runaway greenhouse effect) can melt lead.

    a) "(Unmanned) Exploration missions have no tangible benefit" #2 -- certain theorists on earth are ...um... SUGGESTING... that holes in the the ozone layer will let through more ultraviolet light than is safe, barbecuing life on earth ... yadda, yadda, yadda ... ok, you get the idea. The planet I'm referring to is MARS. The closest thing this system's got to an earth-like world other than Earth itself ... a world where we're getting more and more indications that there used to be life ... indications that there used to be liquid H2O on the surface - and there still may be some trapped in the rocks and ices ... All of it being quite well barbecued due to the lack of an ozone layer.

    Two worlds, currently unable to sustain life (we think). Two problems that Earth is facing right now. Two test cases where we can see the problems Earth is facing, actually happening.

    Any questions?

    If not, I do have one question. How many Buddhists are working at NASA? How many Shinto? Hindu? Taoist? Islamics?

    How about 'how many people on this planet don't march in step with your beliefs?

    Didn't think you'd know. Scary, ain't it ... living in a country (assuming you're an American) where not only are you surrounded by heathens and heretics, but the national laws permit them to stay.

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  13. Re:And the answer is by efuseekay · · Score: 2

    Let's assume that the bible predicts all these things (which I doubt it does, last I read it) :

    (a) Expanding Universe : Did the Bible predicts the exact value of the Hubble Constant? I mean, there are some details that scientists are very keen to know...

    (b) String Theory : Provided that String THeory is correct (no proof), current popular ideas thinks that we live in a 11-dimensions universe, not 10. (btw, can you tell me where in the Bible that says this? I'd like to show some of my string theorists friends here just to rub them off.)

    (c) Books : Isn't checking out books "taking the opinion of others?" Especially when you believe everything a book says?

    I have no problems with people believing in some being creating the Universe. I just have problems with these people thumping their beliefs into my head as though as I can't find that out for myself.

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  14. Ethical implications.. by fliptout · · Score: 2

    I for one hope they are not using Proto-matter. The planet that may form from use of the Genesis device will destroy itself in a matter of days. The last thing we need is universal armegeddon. ;^)

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  15. I don't know about you.... by efuseekay · · Score: 4

    but I didn't realize NASA is so strapped for cash that they are selling domains to make ends meet.....

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  16. Real link by dair · · Score: 3

    The real link is http://genesismission.jpl.nasa.gov/.

    -dair

  17. Re:Spending cuts.. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 2

    "And if the NASA people really want to know what happened eons ago, they ought to consult a certain book's chapter bearing the same name as this mission. The answers are already there."

    Trooling for Jesus, are we?
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