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McAfee Patents ASP Business Model

Rob Kischuk writes: "According to an article at InfoWorld, McAfee.com has been granted a patent on its variety of "software as a service". No specifics on the patent, but the CEO's statement, "You either work with us, or you work around this patent", seems to indicate that more than a couple of ASPs could be affected." kerubi gets a cookie for sending in a link to the patent in question, or read McAfee's press release.

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  1. Re:Take a look at the title... by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Informative
    • "Method and system for securing, managing or optimizing a personal computer"

    I wonder how many times I'm going to have to post the simple advice to read to the end, to see that it gets even worse:

    • Those skilled in the art may make numerous modifications and departures from the specific embodiments without departing from the spirit and scope of the claimed invention. For example [...]the software downloaded may be intended to perform tasks such as database management, word processing, spread sheet, games, or other tasks that are not specified herein.
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  2. ### JAVA anyone???? ### by Myrv · · Score: 4, Interesting


    A system, method, and computer program product for delivery and automatic execution of ... over an Internet connection to a user computer responsive to a user request entered via a web browser on the user computer.

    Don't know about you but this sure sounds like java applets to me and I could have sworn somebody already held the patent for that ;)

  3. Surprise by technomancerX · · Score: 4, Informative

    Surprise, surprise yeat another patent on something obvious that tons of people are doing... Although considering they filed in 1998 it may not be that hard o find prior art on this one. Arguably any form of web-based installer violates this patent (or counts as prior art) as software installation can be considered 'administration'.

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    1. Re:Surprise by Phrogz · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Arguably any form of web-based installer violates this patent

      Yup...but can you point to a web-based installer prior to 1998? People are all gung-ho on patent-bashing, but I think this is a combination of I-want-free-stuff ("free napster!") and hindsight-is-20/20.

      I'm not necessarily defending the scope or righteousness of the patent system in general, but just because everyone is doing it today, and just because you use it frequently, doesn't mean it didn't take someone else's smarts to come up with the idea and introduce it to society. Zippers, shoelace grommets, post-its, etc.

      "Can you believe it, someone has just patented STICKING PAPER TO THINGS!"

  4. Hmm. by emf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "In a preferred embodiment, the user directs the Internet browser to a Internet clinical services provider web site computer and logs in to the site using an identifier and a secure password and optionally makes a selection of the type of servicing desired, wherein an automatically-executing software package encapsulated within a markup language communication unit deliverable across the Internet is delivered, to the user computer, the automatically-executing software package being adapted to perform security, management, or optimization functions on the user computer."

    Isn't that what Microsoft's Windows update does ? Or better said, isn't that what Microsoft's Windows update tries to do?

    1. Re:Hmm. by justin_w_hall · · Score: 5, Interesting
      You know.. maybe this is what needs to happen for the government to realize the idiocy of the patent system:

      • McAfee files a blatantly obvious patent.
      • The patent happens to cover an idea that Microsoft is about to base their entire software strategy on (web services).
      • Light bulb goes on over a Microsoft VP's head - 'hey we should do something to stop this'.
      • Microsoft's legal muscle fires off multiple letters to Washington.
      • Light bulb goes on over Washington's head (or is forced there by Microsoft's legal types - 'maybe this patent law does suck.'
      • Change ensues.

      Who knows? Maybe having the 800-pound gorilla fight some battles for you isn't all bad..
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  5. Moral compass by Bongo · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'd patent one (the Moral Compass), but I sure don't think I'd collect much royalties. Anyone out there know of prior art??

  6. Take a look at the title... by JoeShmoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Method and system for securing, managing or optimizing a personal computer"

    So basically McAfee is claiming a patent on:

    * Passwords
    * Locks

    * Command Shells
    * GUIs

    * Defragmenters
    * Memory management

    You get the idea...this is broader than the side of a barn. The only sentance I can pull out of the abstract that means anything is "you do something with a web browser and something happens on your computer"

    Serious...who read this @#%!$ at the patent office and finds anything unique about it at all? I mean AT - FREAKING - ALL?

    - JoeShmoe

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  7. (OT - your sig) by 11223 · · Score: 4, Funny

    You don't get superpowers until you have >50 karma.

  8. Re:"You either work with us, or you work around th by csbruce · · Score: 5, Funny

    Definitely sounds like a challenge

    Sounds more to me like "Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-hah!!" {strokes cat while adjusting monocle}

    Nooo, Mr. Bond, I expect you to pay royalties!

  9. "You either work with us, or you work around this" by T1girl · · Score: 4, Funny

    Definitely sounds like a challenge

  10. Another bounty comming right up. by thebitninja · · Score: 4, Informative
    If Macafee have just filed this patent then there must be prior art out there.

    Here is an excellent article on IP issues and mad patents.

    Also check out IP.com and BountyQuest

    so I imagine well be seeing something here about this soon!

    I'm tempted to immediately blame the companies for doing this, but I guess they are just trying to work within the system to make money. It's the system that sucks. Still I'm gonna hold off buying that antivirus software for a while now.

  11. Cookie by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually, kerubi gets a cookie just by browsing Slashdot.

    (Sorry, I just couldn't resist.)

  12. Patent idiocy will die when... by alispguru · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... the first lawyer successfully patents a legal argument, or perhaps a clever sequence of filing inter-related lawsuits, as a business process, and then starts charging other lawyers for using it.

    Remember, the legal system in general thrives on adding complexity to other people's lives. When the complexity starts removing money from their pockets, things will change.

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  13. Protest! by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hi guys,

    Perhaps the best way to protest their action would be to purchase as many Norton & Symantec products as possible.

    Regards,

    Ben Hallert
    Symantec