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Slashback: Mods, Books, Checkmate

Slashback tonight with more book reviews, more on the Human vs. Machine Duel in the Desert, more on the Star Wars sequel name -- just generally more.

Quick, Danny, write faster! Danny Yee has written additional reviews of Jessica Litman's Digital Copyright , Naomi Klein's No Logo , and John Sundman's Acts of the Apostles . (You might want to flashback to earlier reviews of these by Michael Sims and Jon Katz, Warren A. Layton, and Hemos.)

From the Persian for "King" Frederic Friedel of Chessbase contributed some links which are especially interesting in light of the recently announced match between Deep Fritz and Vladimir Kramnik. He points to this link and this other link, saying "The latter has some nice quotes from Kramnik."

In addition, Frederic has links with more on Kasparov vs. Deep Blue, and Fritz in Space.

But the name is already perfect for a MAD parody ... RFINN writes: "If you haven't heard by now, Lucasfilm announced the name of Episode II. It's going to be called 'Attack of the Clones.' If you're like me, this stirs up pictures of Jedi running from giant red tomatoes and such. Do your civic duty and help change the name that has become the laughing stock of the sci-fi movie going community (and some of the actors themselves) by signing a petition to be sent to George Lucas."

Sold! to the man with the large contingent of lawyers! ncmusic writes "For all of you readers that have been following Bid For Power the DragonballZ Q3 mod. Funimation has issued a cease and desist order to the group. Funimation has excluse rights to DBZ in the US (and EU I think) and has sold exclusive video game rights to Infograms. Below is the announcement made on the site about the order. My question to the slashdot community is do you think this is fair? BFP is a FREE mod to an already existing game. Have their been any other precedence set for making mods based on characters from copyrighted work? And what advice do you have for the Bid For Power group?

'As many of you know Funimation owns the copyrights to Dragonball Z in the USA and has sold the exclusive rights to publish video games to Infogrames. On December 1st, 2000, the Bid For Power team received a cease and desist order from Funimation.

However, they seemed receptive to the notion of allowing Bid For Power to be released so long as certain conditions were met. We were put in touch with Infogrames who asked us, among other things, to recreate Bid For Power on Wild Tangent, a java-based engine, which would then be posted on the Dragonball Z website for people to play. This engine is incapable of running something as detailed as Bid For Power and we would have had to start work from scratch. Most of the team rejected the idea and talks went downhill from there. Without contact with Infogrames or Funimation the progress of Bid For Power slowed down even though we were sitting on a finished product and had been for some time.

We began dealing with Funimation directly in April when they asked us to send videos of gameplay to them so that they could have TOEI Japan review it. We sent the videos and heard nothing until we emailed them in July asking that we be allowed to release in August, since no objections had be made from TOEI Japan that we knew of. We were then sent another Cease and Desist order by way of Funimation.'"

So the confirmed-as-rumor rumor has become real? This is the sort of thing that would be best kept in the realm of rumor.

13 of 335 comments (clear)

  1. Christ, get a life by p3d0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're going to sign a petition to make him change the name from "Attack of the Clones"? Really, is that any worse than "The Empire Strikes Back"?

    I swear, Lucas can do nothing right anymore.

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    1. Re:Christ, get a life by cretog8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      > Really, is that any worse than "The Empire Strikes Back"?

      ...or "Return of the Jedi"?

      Star Wars has always been sci-fi space opera fluff--GREAT sci-fi space opera fluff. It's the stuff of cheap, easy teenage male fantasy, with slimy green aliens keeping our women in bondage fetish wear, big explosions, simple farmboys secretly being born to be galactic heros, etc.

      "Attack of the Clones" is a perfect title in this tradition.

  2. Re:Distributed Chess by Alfred · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But you don't solve chess, you would calculate "End Game tablebases" which are large lookup tables that tell you a game result given a chess (board) position. I believe that the 5 piece EGTB has been fully calculated, with parts of the 6 having been done too (ones involving queens?).

  3. Grammar Nazi, again. by sudotcsh · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Good god. Did they let Cmdr Taco write that petition? How do they expect Lucas to take it seriously when there are apostrophe issues everywhere?!

    I refer them to this handy guide: Bob The Angry Flower's Quick Guide to the Apostrophe, You Idiots

    Hopefully that'll clear things right up.

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  4. Dragonball Foxed? No, stupid developers by Zalgon+26+McGee · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Let's face it: if you know it's someone else's property, why spend thousands of hours doing development without securing permission to use it?

    Stupid people get no sympathy here.

    (Karma, goodbye...)

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  5. An idea for the Q3 mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    --Instead of trying to fight this battle, the writers of the Q3 DBZ mod should sidestep and throw it back in the copyright holders face.

    They should turn it into a parody.

  6. Re:Dragonball Foxed? No, stupid developers by JoeShmoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not so fast...I think this is not as simple as you make it sound.

    I think there is a case to be made that this mod would fall under the category of parody. This means that it is protected from claims of copyright infringement under the first ammendment.

    Besides, if you want to take such an exclusive view...where do you draw the line? Can I use a DBZ skin for my player? Can I use a DBZ character name for my player?

    IMHO, if there is no profit involved then the courts, society, and all of us should be giving people wide latitude when it comes to these kinds of creative endevours.

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  7. Lucas Arts and naming the movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Umm am i missing the point here ? maybe cause as far as i can see Lucasarts can name the movie anything the like - they own the property after all, they appeal of phantom menace i think has shown that they no longer rely on the fanboi element for survival and they could really call it Star Wars Three - Obi One sucks Yoda's cock and they would all still go and see it.

    Dont you think its a bit childish to have petitions to change the name of a movie that a company has decided on ? What about world hunger? civil rights ? rape? Nope were gonna protest about a movie

    I give it approx 10 minutes befors some ethical person posts email addresses for lucas arts staff or george lucas himself - that wayy all of you can mailbomb them to death in the reponsible adult way you all practice

  8. Whatever happened with history.. by HIghoS · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did anyone even bother to listen to the little bit of history the original movie presented itself with? do you guys even *remenber*? (the ones always bitching about E1 being crap ;)

    If they are making the movie after the Clone Wars, the title is perfect..perhaps it is 50-60ish, but so what, it's better then watching the Trade Federation and the annoying droids do all the fighting ;)

    Then again, i'm use to reading the Star Wars books, which are as we all know, books are always twice as good as movies ;)

  9. Re:Bloody Petition by Compuser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IMHO, the reason why people complain about lame content in Ep. 1 is because they ... grew up. I came to the US when I was a grown up and saw Star Wars episodes for the first time when I was older than 20. I see no difference between the episodes in terms of quality. How is an animated Jamaican-spouting goon worse than a metal wizard-of-oz'ish charicature of a robot, or a rolling trash bin with blinking lights? I am not trying to troll, I am just saying that SW is aimed at kids and is not bad in that realm. Ep. II will probably not deviate from this money making scheme, but where is the grief?

  10. Re:Dragonball Foxed? No, stupid developers by JoeShmoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Distributing DBZ eps...you have a case. Distributing fan scripts and stories? Then I don't think you should, even though the laws say you do.

    The whole purpose of the copyright laws were to encourage creativity. Things that extend or add to creative works (as long as their are clearly labeled to identify origin) should be allowed.

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  11. Re:Distributed Chess by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There are an astronomical number of possible board configurations in chess, but they are finite.

    Maybe technically finite, but astronomical doesn't give justice to the number. My quick estimate is that even if you could somehow store one game per atom, the entire earth doesn't have enough atoms to save all of the permutations.

  12. Lucas Film name by child_of_mercy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    doesn't Lucas have a history of messing around with his film names to slow the pirates down?

    He did it with Jedi

    Imagine the t-shirt presses of Shenzen are whirrin up right now with "Attack of the Clones".

    Be a bit of a blow to them if he changed the name a month before it opened.

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