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Court Decision Favors Rambus

Posted by Hemos on from the and-it-goes-on-and-on dept.

RoscoeP writes "This story from News.com: "A federal judge has overturned two counts of fraud against chip designer Rambus...". At least Rambus can't pursue litigation against Infineon for SDRAM though." See our previous stories about Rambus for far-too-much background.

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  1. The court favors Rambus... by Nastard · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and they're the only ones.

  2. This is awful. by david.johns · · Score: 4, Interesting
    For the first time in a LOOONG time a company has (had) been charged with fraud, in connection with activities that constitute... well... fraud.

    Aside - if it had been a DMCA violation, we would have been executing^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hprosecuting employees by now.

    In my mind, at least, it's going to be very hard to maintain that their patents are bogus if they are not fraudulent. I don't know much about how our appeals system works (never had to use it, thank gods) but I expect that the higher court to whom they appeal cannot effectively re-open the investigation of fraud without Infineon also appealing.

    That means the next case is (probably) going to go like this:

    These your patents? Yup. This their RAM? Yup. Pay 'em. Case closed.

    AFAIK there is no viable way for the court to assert anything else without a _major_ break from precedent.

    Remember, though. IANAL. I really hope I'm wrong.

  3. What fun patents, IP and crap can be! by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    If there were a gang of kids planning to string tin cans together to talk to each other...

    Geoff Tate would leap from the bushes, run down the street and fax the design to the US patent office, then sue unless he was paid a stipend.

    Lucent would attempt to make the cans and string and lose a large fortune, requiring massive layoffs at their lemonade stand.

    Steve Case would be adamant that the string have a huge granny knot in it to be more effective

    Bill Gates would say it has to be 4 inch braided nylon rope with a detour through his house

    Larry Ellison would hold his breath and turn purple unless the cans were imported from Japan

    Thomas Penfield Jackson would call Gates a big stupid jerk and get dragged home by his mother and grounded for a week

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  4. Spin from both sides.. by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Informative
    But the crux, as I undestand it, is that Infineon wanted Rambus' complaints against them brought to an end, while Rambus' ability to pursue Micron and Hynix to continue. Micron and Hynix are competitors after all, and for the benefit of those who haven't followed, they haven't worked together, just toward a common goal. So, in the spirit of winning, but not helping your allies, Infineon wishes to step away from the battlelines and sell memory, unfettered, while Micron and Hynix continue to soldier onward.

    All in all, it's still a really bad thing for Rambus, as they've got to be running so low on revenues, from slumping sales in the IT market, that they should be considering out of court settlement with the manufacturers. Although such a concession might be too late.

    Yet there's still the matter of Rambus vs Infineon in a german court, where a technology expert was appointed recently, and the italian procedings which looked like a win for Rambus, but the judge put on hold. Wait and see.

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    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  5. Quick look at PriceWatch by rkischuk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    256 MB 800 mhz Rambus RDRAM - $87
    512 MB 800 mhz Rambus RDRAM - $380

    256 MB PC133 Micron SDRAM - $25
    512 MB PC133 Micron SDRAM - $77

    Remind me why I need this stuff? If you want to see the future of RAMBUS, reference "microchannel" expansion slots. It seems you can only strongarm an entire marketplace if you make software....

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    Seen any BadMarketing lately?
  6. Link to Rambus v Infineon Docket by myst564 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's a link to the actual docket http://www.rambusite.com/RambusVsInfineon/Docket.h tm .

    It probably would be nice to have someone comment on what was exactly denied in the ruling.

  7. Re:Great! by A+Commentor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When rambus cranks up the fees... 10, 20, 100% on DDR so that it subsidies their own RAMBUS memory and raises the DDR prices to higher that RAMBUS, you WILL care... but by then it'll be too late.

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  8. Like ripping out a single coffin nail by Aerog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But even if they're not criminally liable, the amount of bad publicity they've recieved in the last little while can't be anything but bad for busines. What with the fraud cases themselves as well as Intel dropping support, added to the cost difference between Rambus and SDRAM, they've distanced themselves from the majority of the geek community, something that other notable companies can afford to do, but they can't. When SDRAM is less than CDN$35 for 128mb, It's just impossible to sell on truse alone when you have no more trust.

    Now it's just sit back and wait for more bad news for Rambus.

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    - Relativistic? That's barely Newtonian!
  9. Confusing/conflicted stories by nixon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Boy, what a difference spin makes. Check this article out:

    http://biz.yahoo.com/st/010810/28625.html

    Seems pretty much pro-Rambus.

    Now look at this one:

    http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/010810/100178.html

    Basically a reprint of Infineon's press release. Boy, and you thought the patent system was confusing! So what's the real analysis?