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Final Fantasy At 2.5FPS

Rikardon writes: "Adding a little fuel to the ATi-vs-NVIDIA fire started earlier today on Slashdot, NVIDIA and Square are showing a demo at SIGGRAPH of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within being rendered in 'real time' (four-tenths of a second per frame) on a Quadro-based workstation. Now that I think of it, this should also inject new life into this debate." Defender2000 points to the Yahoo article. Update: 08/14 09:30 PM by T : Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't .4 seconds per frame. Sorry.

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  1. Re:Wait a minute: by Raging+Idiot · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Yeah, and you are only about the four HUNDRETH person to note that in this thread. But thanks. It was really helpful.

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  2. Still didn't get it right by Zaknafein500 · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Well, they fixed the headline, but the update says:
    • Update: 08/14 08:39 PM by T:Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't 4FPS. Oops.
    Shouldn't that read ".4FPS doesn't equal 4/10 a second per frame"?
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  3. ?? .4FPS by JiffyPop · · Score: 0, Redundant

    From the text it seems that you meant 2.5 FPS (or possibly .4spf? although who would want a sunscreen like that?)

  4. If... by excesspwr · · Score: -1, Redundant

    .4 frame per second != .4FPS what does?

  5. Re:.4SPF by Raging+Idiot · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Um, isn't .4 seconds per frame EQUAL to 2.5 frames per second?

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  6. All right! 14 redundant posts! Keep it up! by infinite9 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    14 people chimed in to say that FPS != SPF. Where are the moderators when you need them?

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  7. Re:Well then by JabberWokky · · Score: 1, Redundant
    it should be 0.4 SPF, not FPS.

    Which is it? A frame roughly every two seconds (.4 FPS) or roughly two frames each second (.4 SPF)?

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  8. Re:Do the math... by Wavicle · · Score: 0, Redundant
    sweet fucking christ, where the hell did you go to school?

    1 frame
    ----------- = 2.5fps
    .4 seconds

    or if we're using something closer to your math...

    2 frames taking 8/10 of a second, with 2/10 left over.

    Each frame takes 4/10 sec to render. 2/10 = x * 4/10. x = 1/2

    2 1/2 = 2.5fps

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  9. Not exactly... by felipeal · · Score: -1, Redundant

    0.4 FPS (Frames per second) means it would take 2.5 seconds to render a frame.
    2.5 FPS would mean 4/10 of seconds to render a frame.
    Looks like someone missed the quake classes :)

  10. You're STILL wrong! by mewsenews · · Score: 0, Redundant

    "but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops." Actually, .4 frames per second IS .4FPS (FPS stands for Frames Per Second, heh) I think what you might have meant is that .4 seconds per frame isn't .4FPS.. Isn't this supposed to be a geek site?

  11. Yes, but by witch · · Score: -1, Redundant

    .4 spf would be 2.5 fps.

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  12. FPS by Warin · · Score: -1, Redundant

    At four tenths of a second per frame, you get a frame per second rate of 2.5fps, not .4fps. Geeze guys...try a little harder next time!

    What I'd like to know is what hardware is sitting around the Quadro? How many and what type of processors, how much RAM. I mean, it's all well and good to talk about how great Quadro is, but whats the rest of the system

    Heh, sort of reminds me of the bad old days when AMD would quote system cpomparisons using twice as much RAM as the Intel system, to artificially inflate their scores.

  13. Update: 08/14 08:39 PM by T: by snake_dad · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't 4FPS.

    No it isn't. But it is .4FPS!
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  14. oops is right! by infinite9 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Update: 08/14 08:39 PM by T:Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops.

    Uh, .4 frames per second IS .4FPS. I think you mean that .4 seconds per frame isn't .4 frames per second.

    This isn't that hard guys.

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  15. Your update is wrong, T. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    > Update: 08/14 08:39 PM by T:Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed
    > out, .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops.

    YES IT IS! .4 frames per second IS .4 FPS. What you meant was 0.4 seconds per FRAME is not 0.4 FPS.

  16. Well then by VFVTHUNTER · · Score: 1, Redundant
    it should be 0.4 SPF, not FPS.

    And all this time the doctors told me an SPF of at least 15 was the best ;)

    1. Re:Well then by balls001 · · Score: 0, Redundant
      jesus h christ, can nobody do any math?

      four-tenths of a second per frame

      that comes up to what, 2 1/5 frames per second. when the fuck did that become good? it's certainly not real-time.

  17. Re:.4 FPS? by smnolde · · Score: 0, Redundant
    .4 FPS != 4/10 second per frame.

    It's crap like this why the US population can't handle the SI unit system, not to mention their own gringo unit system.

    This is the same reason why hot dogs are sold in packages of twelve and buns in packages of eight.

  18. Re:.4 FPS? by catch23 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    2.5 FPS == 4/10 of a second per frame

  19. 2.5 FPS by CodePoet82 · · Score: -1, Redundant

    At 4/10ths per frame, wouldn't the actual frame rate be 2.5 FPS? I think someone needs to retake some grade school math classes...

  20. Re:Do the math... by balls001 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    sweet fucking christ where the hell did you go to school?

    4/10 of a second per frame
    that means you can fit 2 frames in a second
    2*4 = 8
    so 2 frames taking 8/10 of a second, with 2/10 left over

    2 2/10 = 2.2fps

  21. Re:.4FPS IS NOT 4/10s of a second per frame!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    I think you should join them back in college.

    4/10 FPS (Frames per second) will NOT yield over 2 frames per second. It will be 4/10 of a frame in one second!

  22. .4SPF by BIGJIMSLATE · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Shouldn't it be .4 seconds per frame instead of 2.5 frames per second?

    Besides, any "realtime" demo can't show off all the hard work involving texturing and lighting that animators put into it. "Pixar quality animation" isn't what it is because of computers. Its due to the people who are using the computers.

  23. Re:Do the math... by infinite9 · · Score: 1, Redundant

    .4FPS is NOT the same as "Four-tenths of a second per frame"

    That's a lot like my GNC suburban 4x4. Sometimes I think it gets gallons per mile instead of miles per gallon.

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  24. Re:Is it 4/10 or 1/10 of a second? by Raging+Idiot · · Score: -1, Redundant
    My god, is this entire thread going to be one huge math flame?

    Jesus fucking Christ!

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  25. His error correction has an error!!! by Wraithlyn · · Score: 1, Redundant
    ".4 frame per second isn't 4FPS" What the heck does that mean? Where did 4FPS come from? I guess he meant 0.4FPS? Because even THAT is wrong. Should read: ".4 seconds per frame isn't .4FPS"

    Great, just great. I don't normally nitpick article goofs like this, but this is just shamefully amateurish and unprofessional.

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  26. Correction incorrect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    ".4 frame per second" is .4 fps. What is meant is that .4 seconds per frame is not .4 fps.

  27. Re:.4FPS IS NOT 4/10s of a second per frame!! by tosderg · · Score: 2, Redundant

    "4/10s of a frame per second means you can do just over 2 frames per second."

    Wouldn't it be 4/10s of a second per frame means you can do just over 2 frames per second?

  28. Wait a minute: by Raging+Idiot · · Score: -1, Redundant
    Update: 08/14 08:39 PM by T:Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops.

    Um, actually .4 frames per second would be .4 FPS, but the article said .4 seconds per frame, which would be .4 SPF. Can't you guys even get it right when you are fixing one of your mistakes?

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  29. Re:.4 FPS? by mybecq · · Score: 0, Redundant
    When isn't the 'Update' even correct?
    Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops
    Oops again: .4 frames per second is .4 FPS.
    However, it is not .4 seconds per frame.
  30. It's amazing... by 11223 · · Score: 1, Redundant
    In a situation like this, to see the comments which either (1) bash the submitter's poor math (.4 SPF != .4 FPS), e.g. read the article, or (2) just post something about "how slow .4 fps is", indicating that they didn't read the article at all.

    A most intriguing study of slashdot responders.

  31. FPS? by JanusFury · · Score: -1, Redundant

    PM by T:Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops.

    um, it should say:

    PM by T:Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 seconds per frame isn't .4FPS. Oops.

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  32. Do the math by KrisJon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    0.4 Seconds Per Frame means 2.5 Frames Per Second (FPS)

  33. Still wrong! by skroz · · Score: 0, Redundant
    "Original headline was wrong, said ".4FPS" but as cxreg pointed out, .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops."


    .4 frame per second is .4 FPS. It's a frame every .4 seconds that isn't .4 FPS. Your correction is correct, but your explanation of the correction isn't.

    Moron.

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  34. .4FPS IS NOT 4/10s of a second per frame!! by Wakko+Warner · · Score: 2, Redundant

    Jesus! We do math good at slashdot.

    4/10s of a frame per second means you can do just over 2 frames per second.

    God damn. People go to college and come out knowing this much about math?

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  35. Excuse me?!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    From the "corrected" headline.
    "... .4 frame per second isn't .4FPS. Oops"

    Ummmm... yes it is! For christ sake.
    Oops is right.

    Should read "0.4 sec/frame isn't 0.4 frame/sec"

  36. Title Is Wrong by citizenc · · Score: 1, Redundant
    It is not rendering the frames at .4 FPS:
    The Quadro-based workstation renders a single frame in four-tenths of a second, allowing for an interactive, real-time CG scene. For comparison, a single frame from the original movie took over 90 minutes to render.
    Sheesh. Read the news posts before making up headlines!
  37. .4 FPS? by JesseL · · Score: 2, Redundant

    .4 FPS != 4/10 second per frame.

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