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Slashback: Subterfuge, Rejoinder, Caution

A desire for information on Code Red and full disclosure, steganography, old game music, and an interesting bit on software patents are the reason you're reading tonight's Slashback.

Good things come in hidden pictures. Intrepid strongman Dug Song writes, in reaction to the "fairly thin" piece earlier today on Steganographic anlysis:

"The only cutting edge, practical work being done today in steganalysis and steganography is by Niels Provos, who gave a talk at HAL2001, and is also presenting at the USENIX security symposium tomorrow: He's been developing several interesting tools to do steganalysis during the course of his universal stego engine development: (http://www.outguess.org/) including stegbreak (which can detect images produced by all popular stego tools -- except outguess), crawl (which he's used to download 2 million jpeg's from eBay to analyze), discern (his distributed computing platform), etc."

Hushing up is not such a good answer sometimes ... Reader Brian McWilliams <brian@pc-radio.com< notes regarding the thread on Slashdot about the costs of full disclosure, "you might want to add an update linking to this story Newsbytes did a couple days ago about the Richard Smith posting. Contains responses from eEye & full disclosure advocates, as well as some more ammo from Smith."

Smith doesn't take kindly to being blamed for damages caused by security holes he publically aired.

So you want to patent "bacon and eggs"? I guess that's OK then. You recently read about the McAffee patent on a seemingly overbroad stretch of computing transactions. Well, it's raised quite a few eyebrows among people interested in a fair computing marketplace. geoa points to this article in which "Neil McAllister in The Gate takes too long to say we shouldn't let another monopoly in the playpen."

It was soooo old ... For everyone enjoying the recent upswing in retro computing interest, Silicon Avatar writes with another tidbit: "Although not necessarily new news, I found a link today when someone mentioned Roland MT-32 to me. Starting with Space Quest IV, Sierra games were written to use either the Adlib soundcard or the Roland MT-32 'soundcard.' Quest Studios seems to have repository of MANY of those songs, including the 'lounge tape' I once had but lost!"

Put that in your souped up underclocked emulator and smoke it.

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  1. Re:AT&T Block blocking port 80 due to Code Red by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    informative!? did the moderator actually follow that link? it's impossible to find ANY announcements from the page this ac gave

  2. Re:California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A quick visit to the National Alliance should help silence your doubts.

  3. What's "brith"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Some kind of jew thing?

    1. Re:What's "brith"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Don't forget the part where the rabii sucks the blood off of the penis with his mouth.

    2. Re:What's "brith"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Ha ha.

    3. Re:What's "brith"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Some kind of jew thing?

      Acutally, a "bris" is a Jewish ritual that happens 8 days after the birth of a boy. The foreskin of the penis is cut off to honor the commitment that Abraham, the first Jew, made to his religion.

  4. Nope! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Gotcha beat, stoopidasscuntbitchmuthafuckah!

  5. Re:Steganography (is stegbreak useful?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A young hillbilly and his new bride wanted desperately to start a family, but they didn't know what they had to do to have children. So, they decided to visit a doctor.
    With a great deal of embarrassment, the young man explained their situation. The doctor took out his charts and books for adolescents and carefully explained the birds and the bees. The two looked bewilderedly at each other, then at the doctor. The doctor attempted to explain in various ways and terms the ins and outs of human reproduction. The same result.

    Finally, exasperated, the doctor laid the bride on the examination table, removed all her clothing, and had intercourse with her. He then turned to the young hillbilly and asked, "Now do you understand?"

    "Yes, doctor," the hillbilly responded, "but just one question." Slapping his forehead in total disbelief, the doctor squawked, "Yes, what is it now?"

    "How often do I have to bring her in?"

  6. Re:Mod down the dumb irrelevent jokes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Like this one.. This one is great!
    Frank goes into the doctor's office and has some tests run.

    The doctor comes back and says "Frank, I am not going to beat around the bush. You have AIDS."

    Frank is devastated. "Doc, what can I do?"

    The doctor says "I want you to go home and eat 5 pounds of spicy sausage, a head of cabbage, 20 un-peeled carrots drenched in hot sauce, 10 Jalapeno peppers, 40 walnuts and peanuts, 1/2 box of Grapenuts cereal, and top it off with a gallon of prune juice."

    Frank asks, "Will that cure me, Doc?"

    "No," replies the doctor, "but it will teach you what your ass is for."

  7. Troll??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    With a nick like FuckYourAss, you call me a Troll?

    Pot? Kettle? Black? What?

  8. Re:Please /. and troll these guys - they screwed m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    OK, it looks like those idiots FINALLY got their site back up. So disregard the 403 error bit.

    BUT, I am still out $450 for a dedicated server they were going to set up. When I first got it set up, they failed to load the DNS entries properly, so couldn't get in. Then, there was a WEEK of TOTAL downtime (no HTTP, mail, ssh) because of the Code Red incident. On a LINUX box?!?!? Their excuse, after I repeatedly harassed them was they were upgrading their firewalls. Hmmm...

    They botched installation of Majordomo, and I had to trace through the Perl code MYSELF to see what they did wrong. They have non-existent documentation, or inconsistent documentation for many things.

    They exhibit TOTAL LACK of PROACTIVE customer notification of system problems, and only give canned responses AFTER you submit trouble tickets wondering what the hell is up.

    Their tech support department is outsourced -- go to www.hostingsupport.com -- they don't even identify themselves, but just give a GENERIC screen -- ie, OUTSOURCED!

    Their whole admin department seems to be one guy who can't speak English clearly.

    Any more details?

  9. Re:JPEGs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Q:Why was P.M.S. named P.M.S.?
    A:Mad Cow disease was already taken.

    Q:What does it mean when the flags are at half mast at the post office?
    A:They're hiring.

  10. Re:Mod down the dumb irrelevent jokes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    shut the hell up young Billy Bob... I've been looking forward to the jokes all day. They've been the high point of slashdot for the past little bit. I think they should all be at +1 (Not to high, they're being posted anonymously, who cares about the karma) so that everyone can read them. Most of them are pretty good, some do suck pretty bad, but hell, it's worth reading the couple of bad ones to get to all the good ones!

  11. Re:Terrorists using ebay to communicate in secret. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A teacher gave his students lifesavers candy to suck on and their job was to tell him the corresponding flavor to the colors.

    The kids were shouting:
    "Green lime!"
    "Yellow lemon!"
    "Red cherry!"

    Then the teacher gave them honey flavored ones. The kids were stumped and the teacher finally gave them a clue.

    "It's what your mother calls your father."

    One little girl cries out, "EWWW!!! Everyone spit them out. They're assholes!!!!!!"

  12. Re:Mod down the dumb irrelevent jokes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What, you post here 3 times in the past couple of weeks, and now you think you're king joe shit and you can start telling people what to do? Well Mr. RockyJSquirel, I've got something to tell you to do... Suck My Fat One. You should be well practiced by now. You're what, 15 now? Your Pappy should have that mouth of yours well worked by now. Get on your knees sonny boy.

  13. Re:California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    All we've proven here is your blind stupidity. Your posts have no logic and you mistakenly beleive that people will beleive your ranting if you just repeat them enough. I'm sorry to bring the facts to you up but not everyone is as ignorant and subintelligent as you, especially on this particular forum.

  14. howdy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Kill the niggers.

  15. Re:Terrorists using ebay to communicate in secret. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This biker was riding around town one day, when he is approached by an homeless bum.

    The bum tugs at his jacket sleeve, and says, "Hey, buddy, can you spare some change for some grub?"

    "Come off it now," the biker replies. "I know what you want. Come with me to the bar, and I'll buy you a beer."

    "No, no," the bum answers. "I don't drink. I just want some food."

    "Come now," the biker says, "you don't drink? Then I'll go to the store and buy you a package of cigarettes."

    "No, I don't smoke," the bum insists, "I just need something to eat."

    "You don't smoke?" the biker asks, surprised. "Then I know what you really want. You can come with me to the casino, and I'll buy you some chips."

    "I don't gamble, either," the bum answers. "I'm just hungry."

    "I don't believe you," the biker says, with a sigh. "Okay, I'll bring you home with me to dinner. The missus will cook you a real meal."

    "Really!?" the bum perks up. "You'd do that for me? Thank you so very much..."

    "Think nothing of it," the biker replies. "I just want the missus to see what happens to someone who don't drink, smoke, or gamble."

  16. Re:JPEGs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A hillbilly woman takes a bus trip north to visit her sister in the big city. While waiting for her sister to pick her up, she asks a group of women sitting near her, "Where y'all from?"

    One of the women says, "Were from someplace where we don't end our sentences in prepositions."

    "O.K.," responds the hillbilly. "Where y'all from, bitch?"

  17. Re:Please /. and troll these guys - they screwed m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    $450! That's it! Fuck you then. You're making it look like you've lost a lot more than that for the effort you're making. Feel lucky you didnt lose anything that's 4 figures or better and that you still have your health, unless of course the stress over this bs is getting to you.

  18. And then there's this poor bastard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Frank goes into the doctor's office and has some tests run.

    The doctor comes back and says "Frank, I am not going to beat around the bush. You have AIDS."

    Frank is devastated. "Doc, what can I do?"

    The doctor says "I want you to go home and eat 5 pounds of spicy sausage, a head of cabbage, 20 un-peeled carrots drenched in hot sauce, 10 Jalapeno peppers, 40 walnuts and peanuts, 1/2 box of Grapenuts cereal, and top it off with a gallon of prune juice."

    Frank asks, "Will that cure me, Doc?"

    "No," replies the doctor, "but it will teach you what your ass is for."

    1. Re:And then there's this poor bastard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Q: What's the first symptom of AIDS?

      A: A consistent pounding in your rectum.

      AC

  19. Retro Tunage... by spellcheckur · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    There's a great collection of retro (although not necessarily "vintage") tunes available at:

    http://remix.overclocked.org

    A ton of old NES-era games remixed with new instrumentation and some downright questionable rescoring.

    Fun memories, if nothing else.

  20. Rush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Rush - Red Barchetta
    (Rush is fucking godly)

    My uncle has a country place, that no one knows about
    He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law
    And on Sundays I elude the 'Eyes' and hop the Turbine freight
    To far outside the Wire, where my white-haired uncle waits.

    Jump to the ground
    As the Turbo slows to cross the borderline
    Run like the wind,
    As excitement shivers up and down my spine
    Down in his barn
    My uncle preserved for me, an old machine ---
    For fifty-odd years
    To keep it as new has been his dearest dream

    I strip away the old debris, that hides a shining car
    A brilliant red Barchetta, from a better, vanished time
    I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar
    Tires spitting gravel, I commit my weekly crime...

    Wind in my hair ---
    Shifting and drifting ---
    Mechanical music ---
    Adrenalin surge ---

    Well-weathered leather
    Hot metal and oil
    The scented country air
    Sunlight on chrome
    The blur of the landscape
    Every nerve aware

    Suddenly, ahead of me, across the mountainside
    A gleaming alloy air-car shoots towards me, two lanes wide
    I spin around with shrieking tires, to run the deadly race
    Go screaming through the valley as another joins the chase

    Drive like the wind
    Straining the limits of machine and man
    Laughing out loud
    With fear and hope, I've got a desperate plan

    At the one-lane bridge
    I leave the giants stranded
    At the riverside
    Race back to the farm
    To dream with my uncle
    At the fireside...

    1. Re:Rush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Rush godly? You're kidding me. I want to kill that prick Geddy Lee and every other fucking Canadian shithead every time I hear his disgusting voice, and the crap-ass songs he sings. He's even worse than that dick Jon Anderson.

  21. Re:California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That's not very convincing. First, why are Palestinians also subhuman? Second, what crimes of the Jews deserve death sentences for those simply born Jewish? Third, why are Aryans supermen? Fourth, why the #@%$@ am I trying to debate this logically with you, when you have simply grown up with an unfounded hatred that you refuse to TRY to see past?

  22. Re:California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What is axiomatic to you is not to me or anyone else on this forum. Maybe if you constructed your rants from facts and not heated, bold opinions, you wouldn't be in -1 hell.

  23. Re:contact consumer affairs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I did that! Read my post, I contacted the BBB already, and am considering the state Attorney General. But I want to SPREAD MY TALE OF WOE to everyone! AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!!!

  24. Re:JPEGs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yeah, but does he have this one?

  25. Re:It was soooo old.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A little boy was walking home with his mum when he saw two dogs going at it over on the other side of the street.

    "Mummy, what are those dogs doing?" he asked.

    "The brown dog has hurt his paw and the other dog is giving him a piggy back home," replied the quick thinking mum.

    "That would be about right," said her son. "Give someone a hand and they go and fuck you up the arse".

  26. Re:Please /. and troll these guys - they screwed m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    look up at the top of this thread of discussion. for some reason that post with all the tips got modded up and shouldn't have been

  27. Re:California by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I see... so Jews are not sub-human, but Aryans are super-human. Tell me, in simple terms, why this is.

  28. Re:Steganography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Joe took his blind date to the carnival. "What would you like to do first, Sharon?" asked the man. "I want to get weighed," said the girl.

    They ambled over to the weight guesser. He guessed 120 pounds. She got on the scale; it read 117 and she won a prize.

    Next the couple went on the ferris wheel. When the ride was over, Joe again asked Sharon what she would like to do. "I want to get weighed," she said. Back to the weight guesser they went. Since they had been there before, he guessed her correct weight, and Joe lost his dollar.

    The couple walked around the carnival and again he asked where to next. "I want to get weighed," she responded. By this time, Joe figured she was really weird and took her home early, dropping her off with a handshake.

    Her roommate, Laura, asked her about the blind date, "How'd it go?"

    Sharon responded, "Oh, Waura, it was wousy."

  29. Re:First music comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    You poor bastard.

  30. contact consumer affairs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    so we don't have to listen to you

  31. Re:Please /. and troll these guys - they screwed m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    YOU can't GET in WITHOUT dns?

  32. Please /. and troll these guys - they screwed me! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Horribly OT, I know, but I want to harness the slashdot effect, and the proliferation of ingenious trolls here for revenge on a company that royally FUCKED ME OVER. See, there's this company called CI Hosting (DBA World Web Services), and they are by far the WORST most INCOMPETENT web host on the planet. They make the IRS epitomize good customer service. Worse, they took a good sum of my money (hundreds of dollars) and are COMPLETELY UNRESPONSIVE! Their main site, http://www.worldwebservices.com/ is DOWN with a 403 error, and mail is BOUNCING. I've tried the BBB, etc, but this will tkae time, and I want them to suffer the consequences NOW!

    So, EVERYONE, please go to ticketmonster.hostingsuppo rt.com and REGISTER for a free login/password. You DON'T need to be a customer.

    If the /. effect doesn't kill them outright, then logging in lets you submit trouble tickets. So, spam them with brilliant trolls about Jews, goat sex, niggers, WHATEVER! Make their tech support team a living hell so they won't be able to answer any tickets at all -- it's no big loss, 'cause that's how they ALREADY are!

    Finally, please write a nice email to noalegal@noa.nintendo.com explaining how CI Hosting is using Pokemon graphics and characters illegally and in infringement of Nintendo's copyright. Once you see the Ticketmonster site, you'll see what I mean. Hopefully Nintendo will slap them with a big lawsuit.

    Anyways, please join in and teach them a LESSON for SCREWING ME LIKE THIS!

    EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO /. THEM, PLEASE AT LEAST TURN THEM INTO NINTENDO, BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER I GOT SCREWED OR NOT, THEY ARE USING POKEMON CHARACTERS ILLEGALLY!

  33. Kauft nicht bei Juden! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Kauft nicht das Juden ein!

    SS Sturmgruppenfuehrer Schicklgruber

  34. Re:Steganography by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A man was walking down the street when he noticed his grandfather sitting on the porch, in a rocking chair, with nothing on from the waist down.

    "Grandpa what are you doing?" The old man looked off in the distance without answering.

    "Grandpa, what are you doing sitting out here with nothing on below the waist?" he asked again.

    The old man slowly looked at him and said, "Well, last week I sat out here with no shirt on, and I got a stiff neck... This is your Grandma's idea."

  35. Re:Please /. and troll these guys - they screwed m by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    tips:
    clean language
    less use of bold text
    less use the the caps lock key
    mail a letter anonymously to Nintendo
    explain to us how they screwed you
    double-check that 403 error

  36. Frothy piss! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    beeyatches!

  37. Re:Jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I heard your momma used to suck on one not long ago. Infact the doctor who gave brith to you was being sucked on. 69 births Ralph, that's the happning.. damn my Kewisktah Karaditch. Damn.

  38. 2 million?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Q: What's the best thing about a blow job from a Spice Girl?

    A: 10 minutes of silence.


    I hope to die peacefully in my sleep like Grandpa did, instead of screaming insanely like his passengers.


    Q:How many men does it take to shingle a roof?

    A:It depends on how thin you slice them.