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An Anonymous Coward writes: "Doing a good deed has caused one man a lot of trouble in the past year. Brian K. West, a tech support junky in a SE. Oklahoman ISP is now facing felony charges due to alerting his competition about a serious security flaw in their systems. The full story can be found at LinuxFreak.org ... I find this rather disturbing that our federal government would do such a thing to someone.." The details of the story lead to some head-scratching.

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  1. I love Katy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Even at college!

    1. Re:I love Katy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I love fucking Katy up the ass and then making her finish the job by sucking the sperm out of my shit soaked rod. Just remember this next time you kiss her :)

    2. Re:I love Katy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Why should he want to kiss her? That's not what women were made for.

    3. Re:I love Katy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      even in the ass (even with the "rape" screams)

  2. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    FP

  3. Better off dead by phantumstranger · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Could someone please help me with the difference between a "good dead" and a bad one? Is it like the joke about a fast death?

    You're alive, you're alive, you're alive, you're dead.

    ...as opposed to a slow one;

    You're alive, you're alive, you're alive, you're dead.

    --
    "From of old, there are not lacking things that have attained Oneness." - Lao Tzu
    1. Re:Better off dead by imagineer_bob · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      I'd be careful.


      I was the FIRST PERSON to point out a misspelling in a story about "Florda", yet I was moderated down as "redundant" -- the L1nux sissies who read Slashdot thought that, somehow, I'd know that people would post the same comment _after_ I did.

      It's the zeal of the linux crazies on Slashdot that caused me to dump Linux and run FreeBSD.


      Which gets me back to this story. The only facts we know are what some site called "LinuxFreak" says. I don't know the facts of the trial. I'm sure the FBI thought he did *something* wrong.

    2. Re:Better off dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      No, no, no. You're not redundant. The 'I' in Florida is redundant. Hardly anyone uses it.

    3. Re:Better off dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    4. Re:Better off dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      [sniff.you.hurt.my.feelings]

  4. Re:this is not a new thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    3Cum is a dying company anyways. They'll be lucky to get any money out of them.

  5. Slashdot effect... by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Give 'em a whiff of the grape! (or at least the "slashdot effect"!)

    --

    You're using her as bait, Master!

  6. -1 default is gone? by Trollificus · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What happened to the -1 default?
    I'm waaaay under -100 and I'm posting at default 0 again. C'mon people! Cut a brotha some slack!
    I want my -1 back!

    --

    "People should be allowed to keep midgets as pets."
    - Gov. Jesse Ventura

    1. Re:-1 default is gone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      ...You were proud to have no one reading your comments? Well, it's -1 now, enjoy.

  7. test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    > > TIMMY!!!

  8. test2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    asdf> > TIMMY!!

  9. Re:Let him rot in jail! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Yeah, sure, "White Hat", everyone's favourite excuse these days.

    "No, Officer, I didn't want to steal that car, I was just going to notify the owner of the insecurity."

  10. Re:From the FBI viewpoint. by arkham6 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Wtf? Rob, there is a bug, my whole comment has disappeared. *sigh* Guess I will have to repost.

    With all the news lately about high profile 'cybercrime', and the foundation of 9 new divisions to help combat it, the FBI is under a lot of pressure to provide a lot of results and visibility. In essence, they have to make a lot of arrests, valid or not, to warrent the increased budget they have been given. No arrests, no money. The agents on this case probably realize that he had good intent, but they needed to arrest him anyways, just to get their stats up. They also know that he most likely will get off, but well, thats not THEIR problem. They just arrested him, DA's are supposed to get convictions.

    And if it costs this poor bastard thousands of dollars? Sorry bub, but they gotta keep their budget.

    Is this right? You tell me.

  11. for Annette by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I got it for you !!!

  12. Re:test3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  13. DICH FAGG0RT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    FUCK YOU
    The revived roman empire is coming SOOON YOU FAGS

  14. fuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    first fuck!

  15. Please mod down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Boring first-post troll. Is ./ getting sleepy?

  16. pointless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I have not even read the story... but I have this to say:
    First Post!

  17. fp! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    first post!

  18. Love! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I love you all

    and I hope you love me 2

    FRESH INSTALL

  19. Mod this up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    He's right. This is both insightful and informative.

    1. Re:Mod this up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Agreed. Off-topic, but an excellent point. Damn crackhead moderators...

      And this goddamn thing about waiting 2 minutes since your last successful post irritates me, too. It's not "to give everyone a fair chance" to post. Everyone has a fair chance to post. Thanks to the moderation system, everyone (theoretically) has a fair chance of their comments being read, too. The only reason I have to wait is to prevent people from posting worthless comments, which is censorship, for better or for worse. Tell it like it fucking is.

  20. w00t by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fp

  21. fear the burrito by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fuck you, Taco!

  22. Fuck yourself FBI - you make America look sick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Someone please tell the FBI to go fuck itself.

    1. Re: Fuck yourself FBI - you make America look sick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      The same principle as in the story:


      Kill the whistleblowers!



      If someone makes your website insecure, have him prosecuted.
      If someone makes your country look stupid, they are told to f*** themselves.

  23. "Doing a good dead" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Version up the legality system, for great justice.

  24. fp? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ???

  25. PhYz0RzT pHyZ0zT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    hehehehehehh im a 31337 h4X0r!!

  26. Re:The DMCA strikes again! by Eryq · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    Don't laugh. Consider:

    Let's say that in the future, company X uses website cookies which contain encrypted information. You're curious, so you capture your HTTP dialog with their website and, after a little fiddling, discover that the cookie is your Social Security Number, base64-encoded. Except that you never gave them your SSN. You call them up:

    • How the hell did you get a hold of my SSN?
    • What are you talking about?
    • Your website cookies are base-64 encoded SSNs!
    • They are? I didn't know that. Please hold...

    And the next day you're sued under the DMCA for cracking their "data protection scheme" (base64) and sharing information on how to crack it (with their customer service rep).

    Yeah, right, that's sounds ridiculous. Could never happen. Not in the USA. We don't do things like that here. All our arrests make sense...

    --
    I'm a bloodsucking fiend! Look at my outfit!
  27. howdy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ?tsop tsrif

  28. I believe I have the first jesus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    First Jesus!! bitches.

  29. uhm, keep those lips sealed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    In fact you should have put something like -$999,999.99 in instead.

  30. ow!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    my balls!!!

    ph33r!!!

  31. that is what you get by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    really, you have to watch out for number 1. Yes, that sucks, but "no good dead goes unpunished" is all to true in this industry.

  32. Similar experience, but with a happy ending. by Faldgan · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I was talking to a friend who still worked at a place where I had been previously employed(Both of us in IT), when he mentioned that they had moved their web services to a 'professional' hosting company. I had been playing around with SAINT, and during the conversation, (I forget who mentioned it) we decided to scan the machine hosting their site. The scan showed anon FTP with write access. I logged in (anonymous) and noticed that I had write access to the entire site, including all the scripts that dealt with the credit card numbers. After checking to see that the write access was real (I created a file in the root directory, containing my name and phone number, and an explanation of what I was doing) I told my friend to have that company called up and have the problem fixed immediatly. Later that day, I got a phone call from the 'professional' company that was hosting them, slightly upset at my actions, but just happy that I *was* benign. They could have done the same to me as has been done to Brian West, but instead they fixed their problem, and let me live.

    --
    Nathan Brazil?
  33. first cumshot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    IN THE FACE of CmdrTaco.... IN THE FACE

  34. For all you know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    for all you know he was trying to make money off it. The fact that he didn't tell his own company get's me thinking

  35. slashdot is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    first cumshot... IN THE FACE of CmdrTaco...

    IN THE FACE!!

  36. Re:Let him rot in jail! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    But he didn't notify the ISP who runs the site, he went up to the customer (the newspaper). I say, fuck him. If you see it defferently, go ahead and donate for his defense fund. I laugh at you.

  37. Sites dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Must be running linux

  38. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    surprised the gov't screwed someone over? hmm

  39. gnomes have problem with jenna by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    A picket line blocked access to Berth 68 at the Port of Oakland on Friday, making it impossible for an Italian ship to unload cargo. The same ship was prevented from docking in Portland on Wedsnesday, as a result of a 12-hour picket line. Protesters are acting in solidarity against the violent and inhumane tactics employed by Italian police during the recent protests at the G8 meeting in Genoa. The dockworkers are organized under the International Longshore and Warehouse Union, and will not cross a picket line.

  40. slashdot is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Just like Taco's mom.

  41. as by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    where is everyone?

  42. First? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Could the legends be true?

  43. hastalavista.box.sk --???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Anyone know what happened to the site above??

    1. Re:hastalavista.box.sk --???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      It moved to a new URL.

  44. Re:Interesting Tactic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
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    %u531b%u53ff%u0078%u0000%u00=aHTTP/1.0

  45. fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    fuck you
    #1!!

  46. Only in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Only in America would a government turn against the people that it serves.

  47. eat my box by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  48. Yet another case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That proves trying to do a good deed is un-American. And the sad thing is, under current laws, the guy IS guilty of cyber-crime.

  49. Hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm an idiot. I'm now going to sue you for pointing it out.

  50. First by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    First post!!!!!

  51. First pole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Suck my cock, butterfingers!

    WHAT??

  52. Re:Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  53. Re:this is not a new thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Can you imagine the typical hacker wearing a black thrench coat and sun glasses, entering the internet cafe trying to run on the walls, then he lines up six monitors in front of him and sit down while looking around suspiciously.

  54. thanx!. :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    to much spanish, to much coding and to little sleep.. :) .. there is no spoon!

  55. Re:American Rebels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    goddamn right, tell it!

  56. Re:Who-hoo! Land of the Free! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    i'm thinking your brain is in need of ventilation... a hole of the approximate diameter of .357 ought to do the job! now, go crawl back under your rock before someone does the world a favor and terminates your miserable existence. thank you. (this has been an unpaid Public Service Announcement)

  57. Re:Contact Wally Burchett and the Poteau Daily New by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Nice link f**k. I lost a lot of data because of that cr*p. Don't be surprised if your account here is gone after this.

  58. Re:[OT] Re:Who-hoo! Land of the Free! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    how is this sack of shit informative, but my concise response above it isn't?

    think about it this way.. if customs weren't at the first point of entry, you could buy a ticket to cuntchomp, idaho and get off in New York, smuggling all the goods youd like.

  59. Re:Whoo-Hooo!! Shut up!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Speak for yourself.

    In Switzerland, everyone does have a gun in their house. We also have violent games, too (Which suprises me somewhat, considering article 135 of Swiss criminal law ['Gewaltdarstellungen'] ...). Yet, the 4 people were killed in the greatest homicide in Swiss criminal history.

    (NB - Switzerland is one of very few European countries where you don't need a licence to buy a gun. You need a certificate to prove you aren't a violent criminal.)

  60. Re:Doesn't Matter by AndyChrist · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So if I were whacking off to kiddie porn near a state border and I COULD have spooged into the next state, but the wind shifted, I'm facing FEDERAL instead of STATE charges?

    Oh, man...