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RMS Accused Of Attempting Glibc Hostile Takeover
Bram Stolk sent a bit in thats been floating around lately where Ulrich Drepper, glibc maintainer announces the new version, and sidetracks to discuss an an RMS takeover attempt and how he feels about it. He raises several good points and I tend to agree with him. The FSF has done, and continues to do so much good, but more and more tension continues to grow between the extreme free speech faction and the more moderate folks. People have asked my opinion, and I'll just leave it by saying I don't prefix "Linux" with those 3 little letters and a slash even tho I've been asked.
fp...maybe
in anima Apparatus
Look how angry he's getting! He won't use ESR's new word! He won't use RMS's old word! He posts troll after troll to the front page. His cunt must be gushing blood like a chest wound.
It seems to me that either CmdrTaco is trolling with this story, or else is being manipulated by troll story submissions.
I'm getting tired of these specific version dependencies (especially in Qt/KDE apps).
-Richard M. Stallman, 1996
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No, it should be moderated as "Cold Hard Truth"
-Richard M. Stallman, 1996
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Is today April 1st in Slashdot's timezone or something? CmdrTaco must either be drunk off his ass or pulling some sort of prank to let all these troll stories get onto the front page. This article is something I'd expect to be cut and pasted by crapflooders like the "___ is Dying" trolls, not something newsworthy. Sheesh.
ad hominem
It was not an excellent troll, it was a generic, obvious-even-to-BSDers-and-little-girls-but-I-repe at-myself troll.
Excellent trolls don't get modded -1 Troll
www.goatse.cx or 209.242.124.241, the choice is yours..
Wouldn't it be an idea to put the Linux kernel, and 'surrounding' stuff (in the context of linux and it's distributions) under a BSD license?
:), but on the other hand, it would be really free for any one. Much like public domain, but you get the credit and you would still have a lot of developers working on the stuff, like it is now. Apache, X, the BSD's and lots more big good projects use the BSD license and they don't seem to have a problem with it.
:)
I know a little about what the pro's and con's of several free software licenses are, and - at least in my humble opinion - a BSD license would be more free that the GPL.
Personally with free I mean it as in:
free beer
free speach
free of 'socialistic' (in the Russia, 1917, meaning of the word) leadership
A BSD license would allow a company to extend your code without contributing it back. It would allow the code to be used in baby shredding machines (just to talk in Theo de Raadt's style
This is really stuff for more discussion, also outside Slashdot (stories with their comments only live that long). It's just a thought.
PS: don't take the baby shredder too seriously, it's just to make a point
I hate moderates. They have no vision and no conviction. They go where the wind blows. You can never count on them when the shit hits the fan.
RMS is a man I can trust. He sticks to his ideals no matter what, and he has vision. I hope he never falls prey to apathy like moderates do.
It was about as good a troll as it gets these days on Slashdot. So let's be content with what we got.
But RMS isn't Jewish...
Are you sure? Stallman sounds Jewish and he looks the part too.
Hmm ... that would be like using someone elses slashdot account because they didnt log out on a public computer ...
... but nah...
and his desc says he likes masquarading as a hacker too...
hmm I could use the +1
Wonder if he will be more careful next time...
Classical Liberalism: All your base are belong to you.
The answer? Kill 6 million more!
props to all troll modz
Just goes to show ya - under every Leftist, there's a Fascist just dying to get out!
Nice trick. He's not jewish, but an atheist right? Half of the israelis are also atheists.
Read the book, see the parallels....
Read the book, see the parallels
Nope, that's L. Ron Hubbard (the scientology guy).
Are there any goats involved?
GNU/Linux
GNU is divided by Linux.
...but we ought to be united.
The problem is these days, everybody wants to be a troll.
Interesting!
test
Nah, it only gets like this when anti-RMS / anti-GPL people have something to complain about. Believe me.
Just because you do not agree with someone does not mean their point is not valid or entertaining to others. And who said every post had to be newsworthy? I personally get a good laugh out of a well-worded snide remark. What's your software product? A software-controlled butt plug? Go fuck yourself, 40 year old technology executive. Go brag (anonymously, of course) somewhere else where someone might give a shit.
OR, go download the latest service pack or hotfix for your product and VOILA!!! It works. No fucking around with code.
Wow. You linux-zealots get your panties in a snit when someone points out OBVIOUS failings with linux. Rather then just say 'Eh, it'll get better', you feel the need to make a bunch of bullshit up.
You may now vote this post offtopic,
but the parent post certainly was not.
At Geekizoid. Giz got the scoop before /. did.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it slashbots!
Slashblots are only intended for entertainment purposes only! They can be seen about three times a day!
MOD THIS UP!
Awesome!
Here here i agree - not surprised you got moderated down as a troll, we have nazi's sputing racism, violent character attacks on any one who does not agree that MS is the great satan, irrelevant stories, innacurate facts and 12 year old moderators.
Slashdot is dying - and we are letting it happen - come on Cmdr tac and and the others - fix whats broken
So are we Caesar's friends,
that have abridged
His time of fearing death.
Stoop, Romans, stoop,
And let us bathe our hands in
Caesar's blood
Up to the elbows, and
besmear our swords:
Then walk we forth, even to
the market-place,
And, waving our red weapons
o'er our heads,
Let's all cry 'Peace, freedom and liberty!'
so true
I find this hilarious.
Nice trick. He's not jewish,
No kidding. If he was, his buddies at ABC, Fox, etc would call it GNU/linux in the media.
Half of the israelis are also atheists.
No, all of the israelies are atheists, their 'God' doesn't exist.
im sick of these fucking whiny fat bearded bastards
in open source bitching about each other all the time.
they are like married couples, the band kind too stupid
to get divorced, and just stupid enough to get together in the first place.
the real reason people make open source is because
they dont have to care about users, they dont have to
interact with other human beings, and they dont have to
have any sort of quality standards for their product. they can
prance around being an asshole and treating everyone like shit
and refusing to get along with anyone for no reason,
and continue pumping out barely passable bullshit,
and then claim 'its ok, im doing it for free'! well fuck you!
Alright, this looks like a troll,
Gosh, if all Lunixheads were as smart as you, Linux would be as good as... well, as good as it is.
There is another piece of information in the article which you missed:
"This $&%$& demands everything to be labeled in a way which credits him and he does not stop before making completely wrong statements like "its variant". I find this completely unacceptable and can assure everybody that I consider none of the code I contributed to glibc (which is quite a lot) to be as part of the GNU project and so a major part of what Stallman claims credit for is simply going away."
That's what Stallman did, and is doing, wrong. Not everyone wants to work on the GNU project, many developers just want to write GPL code. Remember, GNU's not GPL. The author summarises it nicely:
"I have no interest to allow somebody else to tell me what to do and not to do if this is part of my free time."
lmao
It's still a pure grade-A troll story. CmdrTaco will be hard pressed to top this one. Maybe he'll dig up some mailing list flames from that time when ESR threatened to kill Bruce Perens... it's always good for a laugh anyway.
Of course the GPL != GNU. But glibc IS part of the GNU project already. It's right there in the name: the GNU C Library.
It's Drepper who sounds like he wants to be a dictator here.
Dammit, pick up a dictionary. Morale is not the same as moral. Try to at least be semi-literate.
fuck you.
I quite sure you DO have a small dick, communist!
This post is spot on, even to the last paragraph. Marking it as a troll is just a badge of a coward that cannot come up with any reasons to refute his extremely valid points. If there was a computer Bible this would be the book of Revelation.
saru mo ki kara ochiru
Nuff said..
If you have production servers that you haven't shut down for PM and cleaning in more than 8 months, I don't want your opinion on any systems administration topic. This isn't an ironman contest for systems, you are allowed to have them offline from time to time in order to make sure that they don't fail when you really need them. And until you've been shot at on the job, you don't have any right to call me kid, no matter how old you are.
As the slashdot system of handing out moderation point to use, is, I have 5 points to assign. I have noticed lately that the overall comments and moderation point weights assigned are really quite accurate of representing and presenting a fair and bigger picture.
On this topic, the most positive thing I see is the amount of energy and effort people have put forth in expressing their pov. The importance of doing this, cannot be underestimated!!!
Although M$ may be having an internal field day with this topic and the responces, perhaps even getting some inspiration for their next attack on the GPL, the FACT IS:
It is this sort of drive that creates and maintains what in needed in order to keep the computer software industry in check. I suspect it's a good thing overall to have something like a minor conflict as this linux vs. GNU naming for it helps to keep things in check. And in this case helps communicate the history of credit, good or bad.
With all this in mind, and regarding the few days I've had 5 points to assign, then (though I technically can't but only verbaly can) I give all five points to the spirit of standing up for what you believe and keeping things in check in doing so.