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SSH Vulnerability and the Future of SSL

iamchris writes "Growing complacent in regards to security is dangerous. I've become more and more dependant on the SSL-type tools for my security... ssh itself, ssl for my web content, scp, sftp, etc... We all know nothing is 100% secure (or if you don't, God help you). An article on Security Focus cites a vulnerability with SSH and passwords. We usually type them in letter-by-letter. A lot of information can be gleaned from the timing of the keystrokes and some (relatively simple) packet decoding. Is there a better alternative to SSL based tools (Perhaps TLS)? Is there anything that can be done with the clients help with the small packet issue?"

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  1. The best bet for security has always been... by kypper · · Score: 0, Troll
    to unplug the network connection.


    We all know nothing is 100% secure (or if you don't, God help you).

    We hacked him yesterday ;o)

  2. More to worry about if you're paranoid. by Pinball+Wizard · · Score: 1, Troll
    A lot of information can be gleaned from the timing of the keystrokes and some (relatively simple) packet decoding.


    Well, if you use RSA you don't need to type a password so that would solve that particular problem. But if you really want to be paranoid about it, the technology exists to capture your keystrokes. I believe it works by detecting the charge released from depressing each keystroke(the keyboard uses capacitance to send specific characters if I'm not mistaken). So you really need to work behind lead walls or something else that will block that signal from being transmitted.


    Again, using RSA would prevent the password from being transmitted. But they could just keep listening, and gather sensitive data as you type away.

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  3. Re:stroke frequency by egg+troll · · Score: -1, Troll

    Hahaha! Nice to see you back ubertroll. That gay filter cut you off for a while?

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  4. TimeCube! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Ignoring "Time Cube" is Evil. You are an educated stupid ass. Word is counterfeit & fictitious representations of true values, as in form, substance and deed. Adult word god is a counterfeit; and fictitious evil upon children. Teachers are hired evil word pedants who enslave childish minds to a lifetime stupidity. The common stupidity and evil of humanity, is their "ignorance" of Nature's Time Cube.
    <BR>A school is a church and church is a school.
    <BR>I am writing a "Time Cube " book that will
    <BR>contradict and condemn every religious and
    <BR>scientific book written and why not, for I am
    <BR>
    &nbsp; the Greatest Thinker and the Wisest Human.
    <BR>Dumb academicians cannot
    <BR>comprehend their slavory to
    <BR>counterfeit word and its evil.
    <BR>Word enslaves mind. Talking
    <BR>dog could enslave humanity.
    <BR>Teachers enslave you stupid.
    <BR>Demand your teachers teach
    <BR>Time Cube and encourage
    <BR>debate or you are mentally
    <BR>enslaved as stupid and evil
    <BR>ass unfit for life on Earth.
    <BR>Can majority sue minority -
    <BR>or is it but a one-way court?
    <BR>Are Indians minorities, and
    <BR>why are they incarcerated?
    <BR>Is Indian segregation legal?
    <BR>Can an Indian be president?
    <BR>Where are Indian newscasters?
    <BR>Isn't integration racial slop?
    <BR>Will US become black nation?
    <BR>Education equates stupidity and educators ban Life Cube.
    <BR>Truth Cube debunks 1 corner
    <BR>word god in a Cubic creation.
    <BR>Academia is Big Brother's
    <BR>Ministry of Obscurantism, as
    <BR>in deliberately withholding
    <BR>knowledge from the mass of
    <BR>human blockhead androids.
    <BR>Academic denial of student
    <BR>right to debate Time Cube
    <BR>exposes an evil conspiracy.
    <BR>Cubes are varied and imperfect
    <BR>as are their human composites.
    <BR>Humans are educated stupid -
    <BR>and revel within their stupidity.
    <BR>Humans are enslaved by word,
    <BR>the most efficient mind control.
    <BR>Shackles & whips are obsolete.
    <BR>Warning To Word Worshipers.
    <BR>Just as Word viruses are destructive in human
    <BR>made computers, there is a deadly Word virus
    <BR>spreading within the English Language. Unless
    <BR>isolated and eradicated by your knowledge of
    <BR>Nature's Harmonic Time Cube, the deadly Word
    <BR>virus will inflict total self-destruction upon all humanity.Your ignorance of Time Cube is evil.
    <BR>Time Cube is above academic comprehension.
    <BR>Universities equate doomed Towers of Babble.
    <BR>Time Cube debate will expose academic scams,
    <BR>so academia must "ignore" debate at all costs.
    <BR>Students denied the right to debate Time Cube.
    <BR>Educators are evil to deny Time Cube debate.
    <BR>Academic ignoring of Time Cube equates evil.
    <BR>Word worship educators beget stupid students.
    <BR>Students are brainwashed and do not know it.
    <BR>Students are taught to be stupid and don't care.
    <BR>Word is the most effective tool of enslavement.
    <BR>Stupid students believe any crap they're taught.
    <BR>Stupid students unable to evaluate Time Cube.
    <BR>Students ignore Time Cube, attack messenger.
    <BR>Gene Ray has created 4 simultaneous 24 hour
    <BR>Days within a single 24 hour Earth rotation.
    <BR>$1,000.00 to 1st person to disprove Time Cube.
    <BR>Scientists and gods created evil 1 corner Day.
    <BR>Education corrupts your mentality to know this.
    <BR>Evil educators outlaw student Time Cube debate.
    <BR>Gene is The Greatest Thinker and Wisest Human.
    <BR>Earth has perfect vertical axis:
    <BR>The Earth axis tilt represents an inperfection
    <BR>upon which life is based. If the Earth axis was perfectly vertical, there would be no divisions
    <BR>of life as in seasons and therefore no life. Earth
    <BR>rotates 4 simultaneous seasons simultaneously
    <BR>as it revolves around the Sun, thus creating 4
    <BR>simultaneous years as in a separate year for
    <BR>each season. The spinning of Earth while
    <BR>creating the 4 simultaneous years causes the
    <BR>Earth to travel 4 Times the distance of a non-
    <BR>rotating planet circling the Sun. Sum-up the
    <BR>axis tilt of those 4 simultaneous years and
    <BR>divide by 4 to discover a perfectly vertical
    <BR>Earth axis which represents the perfection of
    <BR>death. Though you only see the Earth tilt,
    <BR>mentally, you should recognize that Earth
    <BR>has a perfectly vertical axis over all. The
    <BR>straight line on the heart monitor equates
    <BR>to the perfectionof death. The oscillation or
    <BR>imperfection of that straight line, represents
    <BR>
    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; the imperfection of all created life on Earth -
    <BR>
    &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; depicted in Nature's Harmonic Time Cube.
    <BR>Without Time Cube, your life right is voided.
    <BR>You were educated stupid
    <BR>and evil by evil educators.
    <BR>Do you enjoy being stupid?
    <BR>Time Cube ignorance is evil.
    <BR>Demand Time Cube debate
    <BR>in all academic institutions.
    <BR>You do not have the "guts"
    <BR>to seek Time Cube "Truth".
    <BR>Academia is a religious cult
    <BR>empowerment of self word.
    <BR>Academic word 'rots' brain.
    <BR>Can you explain Time Cube?
    <BR>If not, your brain has rotted.
    <BR>Educators are evil bastards
    <BR>who fear Time Cube debate.
    <BR>Evil men ignore Time Cube.
    <BR>Teachers ignore Time Cube.
    <BR>Teachers deserve a hanging.
    <BR>My name is Gene Ray. Not
    <BR>even a god can deny that I
    <BR>have squared the circle of a
    <BR>static Earth and cubed the
    <BR>Earth sphere by rotating it
    <BR>once to a dynamic Time or
    <BR>Life Cube. Only a false god
    <BR>or academically brainwashed
    <BR>indoctrinated mindless moron
    <BR>would deny that the Earth
    <BR>lacks the top and bottom, the
    <BR>front and back, and 2-sides
    <BR>physical dimensions of a Cube
    <BR>that spirals a 4-season quad
    <BR>helix around the Sun - creating
    <BR>a swirling of 4 simultaneous
    <BR>years as in a separately created
    <BR>year for each of 4 seasons.
    <BR>Man is the only evil animal.
    <BR>Man is the only word animal.
    <BR>Word equates instituted evil.
    <BR>Word adultism is anti-child.
    <BR>A 'word god' can be erased.
    <BR>Word brings a Babel curse.
    <BR>Get ready for armageddon.
    <BR>Beliefs equate pornography,
    <BR>for they coexist on the web.
    <BR>There is no damn word god.
    <BR>Truth is physical, word a lie.
    <BR>It is what you do, not utter.
    <BR>Without deed, word starves.
    <BR>Word god lends not a hand.
    <BR>Adults are EVIL to children.
    <BR>God is a word masturbation.
    <BR>A fart has more "substance"
    <BR>than a human emitted word.
    <BR>Word and god are unnatural,
    <BR>counterfeit, fictitious and do
    <BR>not exist in Nature's realm.
    <BR>Cubeless WORD - is an evil
    <BR>'adult scam' against children
    <BR>and is destroying humanity.
    <BR>Schools are evil institutions -
    <BR>staffed by religious cowards
    <BR>who fear Time Cube debate.
    <BR>TimeCube proves god is evil.
    <BR>TimeCube debunks evil bible.
    <BR>Burn bible to save humanity.
    <BR>You're a TimeCube traveler,
    <BR>but you are educated stupid.
    <BR>Your Character is cornered,
    <BR>4-corner head, 1-corner face,
    <BR>4-corner life metamorphosis.
    <BR>Family is a 4-corner rotation,
    <BR>mother, father, son, daughter.
    <BR>Life rotation debunks Trinity.
    <BR>Academic cubelessness is evil.
    <BR>Schools are actually churches.
    <BR>Education is but mind control,
    <BR>no whips or shackles required.
    <BR>Education 'plunders' Nature.
    <BR>Prequisite to comprehending
    <BR>Nature's Harmonic TimeCube
    <BR>is tearing & burning the bible
    <BR>to purge your mind of its lies.
    <BR>For true freedom, burn bible
    <BR>to contradict academic gods.
    <BR>Academia & religion are one.
    <BR>Teachers & believers are one.
    <BR>Word educator is "your god".
    <BR>Educators teach fake beliefs.
    <BR>God is an academic deception.
    <BR>God is like hate for children.
    <BR>God is but a killer of children.
    <BR>Bible causes an armageddon.
    <BR>I am wiser than a word god.
    <BR>Adult word god is but an evil
    <BR>scam that crucifies children.
    <BR>Bring forth your god - and I
    <BR>will chase him off the Earth.
    <BR>Humans glorify word as god.
    <BR>In the beginning - was word.
    <BR>Word is counterfeit and evil.
    <BR>Evil word became your god.
    <BR>4-corner Truth - is ineffable.
    <BR>Educators teach stupidity &
    <BR>evil. You learned both well.
    <BR>You are evil word worshiper.
    <BR>Humans are 1-corner beings
    <BR>(1-corner face 4-corner head)
    <BR>who rotate 4-corner lifetimes:
    <BR>baby, child, parent, g-parent.
    <BR>Time Cube debunks god lies.
    <BR>Evil people deny Time Cube.
    <BR>Educators are flat-out liars.
    <BR>Evil media hides Time Cube.
    <BR>-1 x -1=+1 is stupid and evil.
    <BR>Word worship equates to evil.
    <BR>Bible induces a barren Earth.
    <BR>Evil 1 day Biblekills children.
    <BR>I have found 3 more 24 hour
    <BR>days on Earth that educators
    <BR>refuse to let you know about.
    <BR>Brainwashed & indoctrinated,
    <BR>you were educated stupid and
    <BR>evil. A pity about your mind.
    <BR>Time Cube = Highest Order.
    <BR>Time Cube = 'godless Truth'.
    <BR>Time Cube damns academia
    <BR>by rotating 4-corners of life.
    <BR>The 'only subject' on Earth
    <BR>banned from debate by evil
    <BR>and stupid educators is that
    <BR>of Nature's Harmonic Time
    <BR>Cube ineffable Truth. Any
    <BR>educator who allows Time
    <BR>Cube debate will most likely
    <BR>be fired or killed by religious
    <BR>zealot brethren who staff and
    <BR>control all academic schools.
    <BR>Name 1 Time Cube debating
    <BR>school on all of the Earth.
    <BR>Educators are evil hirelings.
    <BR>Mother&baby are same age.
    <BR>No mother until baby born.
    <BR>Your ancestory limit is 16 ...
    <BR>your 16 great-grandparents.
    <BR>Divide past,present,future by 4.
    <BR>Rotate 4-corner scribes to
    <BR>create 4 squared circles.
    <BR>Education is 1 stupid corner.
    <BR>4 is the supreme number of
    <BR>the universe. There is no 1
    <BR>in 4-corner metamorphosis.
    <BR>Educators are evil people -
    <BR>for they teach cubelessness.
    <BR>All word is 'fictitious evil' -
    <BR>not a substance nor a deed.
    <BR>Life is based upon a perfect
    <BR>math or your arm would be
    <BR>too short to wipe your butt.
    <BR>Humans are fictitious word
    <BR>worshipers & math stupid.
    <BR>Human exist as personified
    <BR>4-corner pyramid but with
    <BR>only a 1-corner perspective
    <BR>during a 4-corner rotation,
    <BR>or 4- stage metamorphosis.
    <BR>Truth squares Life Circle
    <BR>and Cubes Earth sphere.
    <BR>Life rotates via 4-corners.
    <BR>Mensa is Truth ignorant.
    <BR>Adults evolve from child,
    <BR>for adults are never born.
    <BR>Word worship is evil scam.
    <BR>God desecrates childhood.
    <BR>You were educated stupid
    <BR>about 4-season Life Cube.
    <BR>4-corners are simultaneous,
    <BR>there is no 1, 2, or 3-corner.
    <BR>4 is both macro and micro.
    <BR>God can't occupy 4-corners.
    <BR>Time Cube disproves God.
    <BR>God is an evil adult "word
    <BR>scam" against children that
    <BR>justifies adult plunder of all
    <BR>natural resources on Earth.
    <BR>Educators are evil bastards.
    <BR>You have a 4-corner head -
    <BR>with only a 1-corner face.
    <BR>You are 1/4 of the person you
    <BR>
    &nbsp; were taught to think you are.
    <BR>Academic and religious
    <BR>teachings equate mental
    <BR>retardation - as a 2x4x4
    <BR>Cube creation principle
    <BR>reduced to a 1/4 (corner).
    <BR>You are educated retarded,
    <BR>too stupid for Time Cube.
    <BR>'Takes village to raise child'.
    <BR>Educators are evil people;
    <BR>words corrupt principles,
    <BR>'takes child out of family'&
    <BR>'takes village out of child' -
    <BR>'empowerment of self-evil'.
    <BR>There is no God in 2 x 4x4
    <BR>femininity and masculinity
    <BR>2 sex Cube hemispheres, as
    <BR>life is a 2-Cube crap-game.
    <BR>All words equal not 1 deed.
    <BR>Try words to stop tornado.
    <BR>Truth of Cube is ineffable.
    <BR>Nature outlaws word gods.
    <BR>Cubeless word is adult evil.
    <BR>Word enslaves the children.
    <BR>You were educated 'stupid'
    <BR>by evil religious teachers,
    <BR>
    &nbsp; and can't know Time Cube.
    <BR>'Cube Spirit' is Almighty.
    <BR>Educators are too damn
    <BR>stupid to know 4/16 Cube.
    <BR>There is no Cubic teacher.
    <BR>Educators are the primary
    <BR>cause of evil mathematics.
    <BR>God is but a single corner
    <BR>
    &nbsp; face on a 4-corner head.
    <BR>Fire Religious Teachers
    <BR>too stupid for 4/16 Life.
    <BR>You're 1-corner educated
    <BR>and cannot comprehend
    <BR>4/16 corner rotating Life.
    <BR>You were taught stupidity.
    <BR>Time Cube exposes evil.
    <BR>Cubelessness is an Evil.
    <BR>Educators are teaching
    <BR>you Evil Cubelessness.
    <BR>Educators cannot allow
    <BR>Time Cube to be known.
    <BR>Academia is '1 corner'.
    <BR>Religion but '1 corner'.
    <BR>1 self is only '1 corner'.
    <BR>Family has '4-corners'
    <BR>and 4/16 cube rotation.
    <BR>God is a '1 corner' evil.
    <BR>Self-god is 1 cornerism
    <BR>adult scam upon child.
    <BR>Teach 3 equators for a
    <BR>4 quadrant hemisphere
    <BR>which rotates to a 4/16
    <BR>principle life creativity
    <BR>as in Family Life Cube.
    <BR>God = Hate of Children.
    <BR>God denies a childhood.
    <BR>Worship of Word is Evil,
    <BR>for it 'counterfeits' Deed
    <BR>and teaches Liar is God.
    <BR>You're Educated Stupid.
    <BR>1 Corner Academic 'self'
    <BR>is "lowest" human form. It
    <BR>"degradates"4/16 family life
    <BR>and destroys all villages.
    <BR>1-human is but 1-corner
    <BR>life in 4-corner lifetimes:
    <BR>baby, child, parent and
    <BR>grandparent corners ...
    <BR>a rotating 4/16 creation.
    <BR>Corner god nonexistent.
    <BR>Academia is a religion
    <BR>with religious teachers
    <BR>controlled by believers,
    <BR>who forbid 4/16 Cube
    <BR>as "Forbidden Truth".
    <BR>Adults evolve from their
    <BR>ungodly image children.
    <BR>Fake god eats Child life.
    <BR>Educators teach cubeless
    <BR>babble, ignoring Highest
    <BR>Order Creation- a Cube.
    <BR>Fire Religious Teachers
    <BR>ignorant of Time Cube.
    <BR>Believers are 'evil liars'.
    <BR>'Self-god' is lowest form
    <BR>of behavior, below both
    <BR>family and village Cube.
    <BR>You are educated stupid.
    <BR>Stupid educators cowardly refuse $5,000.00 public forum Time Cube debate.
    <BR>Man-god academic scam
    <BR>equals 1-corner Pyramid.
    <BR>Rotating 4-corners prove
    <BR>1-human is only 1-corner
    <BR>of a Higher Order Life. There is no 1-
    <BR>corner god in 4-corner lifetime stages
    <BR>of human evolution metamorphosis ...
    <BR>wherein born baby dies to child, child
    <BR>dies to parent & parent dies to grand-
    <BR>parent corner. Adults evolve, not born.
    <BR>Singularity equates sex with the baby.
    <BR>Adult word worship is an
    <BR>evil adult scam. Burn the
    <BR>bible, honor Childhood
    <BR>via which adults evolve.
    <BR>Babble Power is suicidal.
    <BR>Ignorance of "Time Cube"
    <BR>indicts you stupid and evil.
    <BR>Explain the "Time Cube".
    <BR>Do you like being Stupid?
    <BR>"Our Cube" corners Liars.
    <BR>I am a'Cubic Thinker' and
    <BR>far wiser than any god, any scientist
    <BR>and any educator who preaches the
    <BR>evil singularity of a single 1st corner.