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Why We Can't Just Get Along: The Bootloader

Posted by timothy on from the issues-to-raise dept.

mccormi writes: "Byte has an article from the BeOS perspective on why we don't see more dual boot machines from vendors. Browser anticompetitive complaints are nothing compared to what's happening with the bootloaders since the majority of people using computers will never have the know-how or courage to make an OS change."

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  1. Re:Read this article - Worths Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Oh, apart from the fact that BeOS blew dead dog dick?

  2. Re:Read this article - Worths Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yes, apart from that, you stupid, closed minded, Linux wheenie who got no idea what he's talking about.

  3. Re:Read this article - Worths Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Beos owns you linux zealot.

  4. Re:Impossible to do.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Referring to the last Mike Tyson rape ?

  5. Re:OH YA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Well what else would you expect from THE GREATEST COMPANY OF ALL TIME?? EAT SHIT LINUX FREAKS!!! MICROSOFT RULES!!!

  6. No, not anything. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Take for instance my legitimate on topic post.
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    I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^)

    1. Re:No, not anything. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      No, not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance msoftware still has a long way to go. It is gaining popularity, but most shops still buy their software, and for consultants who go in and build new pieces on existing systems, that often means using the pre-existing software infrastructure, especially if the work left behind needs to be understood by maintenance staff who are not conversant with anything but the vendor-specific tools. On the other hand, I have seen a couple of projects where the client was small and had no software infrastructure to speak of (i.e. 'green field' development.) In those cases, the allure of "free" software made economic sense to the client. If enough of these small companies actually succeed and become big companies, that will increase the penetration of open-source / free software into the corporate world. p.s. One thing that I dislike about commercial software is the hype companies sometimes try to generate surrounding a deployment of a large system. The buying companies sometimes make news releases that say they have "partnered" or have a "strategic alliance", when really what they should be saying is "we paid through the nose for X" (where X is your favourite system that costs in excess of six or seven figures.) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Why stick with windows (Score:3) by MrBlack on 08-22-01 06:25 PM (#2205971) (User #104657 Info) After making the change to Microsoft development tools why did you stick with Win32? Persumably new PCs that you buy can be installed with your favourite distro, and no doubt you will want to keep a few Windows boxen around for your legacy VB code etc. My other question is why did the developers make this decision? This seems to be more of a business decision to me, not a decision that developers should make. Developers should make technical decisions and business people should make business decisions. If can achieve you goals using VB or open source tools, then the question of which tool-set to use becomes a business one rather than a technical one. Which tools are most productive (so costs are lower)? Which tools are cheaper to purchase? (once again - so costs are lower - but this is less of an issue than tool productivity, since productive tools will usually pay for themselves quite easily). Which tools are more widely supported (to mitigate risk)? Where do our existing strengths lie? Don't get me wrong, I think open source tools can hold their own from a business perspective as well as a technical perspective, I just don't think business decisions should be made by technical people (unless they are also the business people). Developers always get pissed off when sales/marketting says "we can deliver X in 3 months". The business people are making a technical decision. Technical people making business decisions is no different. BTW if you're a VB shop moving to Open Source try Python and wxwindows (if you need a gui) and straight python (if you don't need a gui). You'll find the change very pleasant. [ Reply to This | Parent ] y legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Post Comment Lameness filter encountered. No, not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance my legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Post Comment Lameness filter encountered. No, not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance my legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Post Comment Lameness filter encountered. No, not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance my legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Post Comment Lameness filter encountered. No, not anything. not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance my legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Post Comment Lameness filter encountered. No, not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance my legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Post Comment Lameness filter encountered. No, not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance my legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Post Comment Lameness filter encountered. No, not anything. No, not anything. (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on 08-27-01 07:10 PM (#2223547) Take for instance my legitimate on topic post. Lamness Filter encountered. I'm glad to see that you're not having any issues though. ;^) [ Reply to This | Parent ] Important Stuff: Please try to keep posts on topic. Try to reply to other people comments instead of starting new threads. Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said. Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about. 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    2. Re:No, not anything. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      inside the mind of a troll.... scary!

  7. Re:OH YA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Wow and it blocks cookies from doubleclick by default.

    Uh oh call the courts! Unfair! Doubleclick is gonna get killed by M$ behemoth monopoly!

    Wait IE6 protecting privacy, blocking crap, making overall web experience fast and private!

    Oh no! Conflict! Slashbot brain...is....shutting......doooooowwwwwnnnn....

  8. It is funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    seeing your mom's wrinkled mouth make like a dougnut around my fat love pole.

  9. Re:Impossible to do.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why do you assume I'm from the Southern USA? If you really want to know, I'm from the Boston area. Home of liberal shitsacks like Teddy Kennedy and his horde of PC do-gooder Democraps. Oh, and home to people like you, too. So eat shit and die, Jewey Jewsenstein.

  10. Re:dude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What's with these moderators, this rates a (Score:1)????

    It should be (Score:-1 Redundant)

    If I had any points I'd metamoderate and invoke the Bitchslap script.

  11. Re:OH YA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dude it is so fucking fast! I got used to using that Mozilla shit. Wow, this thing is blazing fast man holy shit. Mozilla is toast man. They have no chance to survive, they should make their time. Microsoft isn't dominating the browser market because it has an OS monopoly, it's dominating becuase IE fucking smokes the competition hands down.

  12. Re:OH YA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Shut up man. If you tell all these Linux freaks they'll rush over to MS to download a beta of XP and the new IE6 at Bill Kicks ass and slashdot the whole thing so nobody can get any.

    Hey Linux lover, you need help clicking on SETUP.EXE??

  13. Re:courage and know-how by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Unfortunately, courage and know-how tend to be a chicken and egg sort of problem.

    How many times do I have to tell you people: The egg came first, dammit!
    Even the little shit from the Sixth Sense knew that!

    Come on, take ten goddamn seconds to think about it: Dinosaurs were here before chickens, right? And how did they reproduce? With eggs, dammit!

    * mutters *

    Christ, and they let these people vote. No wonder the country's gone to shit...

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    Shakespeare [ Reply to This | Parent ] Microsoft did everything right, and had money. (Score:2) by bsquizzato (bsquizzato at nc dot rr dot com) on 08-27-01 07:09 PM (#2223544) (User #413710 Info | http://www.cored.org/) "Don't bother trying to create a better commercial desktop OS - it doesn't matter how hard you try, how many engineers you throw at the problem, how much money you spend, or how many years you put into it. Microsoft owns that space and, worse, the public is totally complicit with that fact. People will not stop using Windows. It is a losing battle." Maybe the reason Microsoft owns this space is because it has done all the things mentioned in there. Microsoft's programmers get paid money, and money feeds people. Small donations directed towards Linus Torvalds doesn't feed him too well. While Microsoft has a large amount of people getting paid well, Linux has a few guys that don't get paid anything at all. Money gets people thinking. Thinking gets people innovating, and Microsoft has done a good job at innovating from what I hear. Linux has not changed too much in the past 10 years. While I don't support Microsoft, and I don't even run Linux, I run Debian, I have realized that since Windows 2000, Microsoft has worked hard on it's product and innovated. Maybe this is why no one else can beat them right now -- no one else has enough money. scars are souveniers you never lose. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Microsoft did everything right, and had money. (Score:3) by Tim Doran (tjdoran(at)bigfoot.com) on 08-27-01 07:23 PM (#2223598) (User #910 Info | http://www.bigfoot.com/~col_archive) Shakespeare [ Reply to This | Parent ] Microsoft did everything right, and had money. (Score:2) by bsquizzato (bsquizzato at nc dot rr dot com) on 08-27-01 07:09 PM (#2223544) (User #413710 Info | http://www.cored.org/) "Don't bother trying to create a better commercial desktop OS - it doesn't matter how hard you try, how many engineers you throw at the problem, how much money you spend, or how many years you put into it. Microsoft owns that space and, worse, the public is totally complicit with that fact. People will not stop using Windows. It is a losing battle." Maybe the reason Microsoft owns this space is because it has done all the things mentioned in there. Microsoft's programmers get paid money, and money feeds people. Small donations directed towards Linus Torvalds doesn't feed him too well. While Microsoft has a large amount of people getting paid well, Linux has a few guys that don't get paid anything at all. Money gets people thinking. Thinking gets people innovating, and Microsoft has done a good job at innovating from what I hear. Linux has not changed too much in the past 10 years. While I don't support Microsoft, and I don't even run Linux, I run Debian, I have realized that since Windows 2000, Microsoft has worked hard on it's product and innovated. Maybe this is why no one else can beat them right now -- no one else has enough money. scars are souveniers you never lose. [ Reply to This | Parent ] Re:Microsoft did everything right, and had money. (Score:3) by Tim Doran (tjdoran(at)bigfoot.com) on 08-27-01 07:23 PM (#2223598) (User #910 Info | http://www.bigfoot.com/~col_archive) XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX | XXXXX
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  17. Re:haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    How did you get to -1 without a rating?

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  19. Re:OH YA! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Haha, good fucking luck Slashdotting Conxion. Even if every Linux freak on this site started downloading it at the same time, it still would have no effect. CONXION, MICROSOFT, INTERNET EXPLORER, OFFICE, AND WINDOWS ALL KICK THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF THE PATHETIC OPEN SOURCE ATTEMPTS TO COPY THEM!!!!!!! MICROSOFT HAS WON, BOW DOWN TO THEM!!!!!!! FUCK LINUX!!!!! FUCK OPEN SOURCE!!!!!!!

  20. [Announce] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Microsoft Internet Explorer 6
    August 27, 2001

    Internet Explorer 6

    Provides Simple Privacy Tools
    Internet Explorer 6 lets you control how your personal information is used by Web sites you visit, so you don't have to worry about security or privacy. By providing simple tools, Internet Explorer 6 allows you to control the information that Web sites collect about you. Internet Explorer 6 supports the Platform for Privacy Preferences (P3P), a standard that the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is currently developing. P3P helps protect the privacy of users' personal information on the Internet by simplifying the process of deciding whether and under what circumstances personal information is disclosed to Web sites. Microsoft will continue to aid consumers in protecting their privacy on the Internet by building on current Web privacy features and providing additional control with future Internet Explorer releases.

    Develop Rich Web-based Applications Quickly and Easily
    Internet Explorer 6 extends the Windows platform to enable developers to build Web-based applications and develop informative content. Internet Explorer 6 provides enhanced support for standards-based Internet technologies and improves the ease and speed with which developers can take advantage of these technologies. Improvements to the programming model, such as enhanced DHTML features, further enrich the Windows Web development platform.

    Improves Web Browser Reliability
    Internet Explorer 6 takes the great reliability of Internet Explorer and improves upon it, offering a more stable and error-free browsing experience. New fault collection services help to identify potential problems that need to be fixed in future updates to Windows Internet technologies. If you have a problem, the Internet Explorer Error Reporting Tool automatically offers to extract information about the problem and upload the data to Microsoft for analysis.

    Increased Standards Support
    Internet Explorer 6 offers a feature-rich platform for building Web-based applications and developing informative content for users. Version 6 of Internet Explorer provides full support for Document Object Model (DOM), level 1 and Cascading Style Sheets (CSS), level 1, which enhance support for standards-based Internet technologies and improve the ease and speed with which developers can take advantage of these technologies. Internet Explorer 6 supports standards that ensure pages run quickly, consistently, and without errors or crashes in the browser. Improvements to the programming model, such as enhanced DHTML features, further enrich the Windows Web development platform.

    Allows You to Experience the Web The Way You Want
    Whether you use the Web to read e-mail, news or sports reports, shop online, listen to music or play videos, or share your images and photos with friends, family or work colleagues, Internet Explorer 6 makes it easy, exciting and fun.

    Easier Than Ever to Deploy and Support
    You can customize the Internet Explorer 6 technologies with the Internet Explorer Administration Kit (IEAK) 6 (This site is in English), so it's easier than ever to deploy and support. IEAK 6 provides powerful easy-to-use options designed to save administrators time and money in deploying and managing Web solutions.

    The popular cross-platform award winning Internet Explorer 6 runs on all popular Windows platforms.
    From the end user simply browsing content on the Web, to the IT administrator deploying and maintaining a rich set of Windows Internet technologies, to the Web developer creating rich Web content, Internet Explorer 6 provides the freedom to experience the best of the Internet.

  21. This is particularly interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
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    1. Re:This is particularly interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  22. Re:Uh, simple question by yohaas · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What?!?
    Why would the default be to delete the Microsoft partition if a non-Microsoft option is picked. You're being blinded by your /. drive anti-Microsoft thinking too much.

  23. Re:Microsoft did everything right, and had money. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The same reason this got modded down to troll is the same reason why linux gets a bad rap. This is mostly directed to you eurofucks that wouldn't know capitalism if it was shoved UP YOUR FUCKING ASSES!

  24. Re:Read this article - Worths Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    They did, dumbass. Or have you never seen the glory of Das Blinkenlights?

  25. Re:Read this article - Worths Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I must have missed that one. Maybe if you hummed a few bars?

  26. Re:WHAT?! MODDED AS A TROLL?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    because these stupid fucks don't have a clue and all moderators are just fucking trolls

  27. Re:huevos? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    huevos is also slang for balls

  28. Re:WHAT?! MODDED AS A TROLL?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    On the off chance that you are not a troll, but merely clueless, review this statement:
    I don't even run Linux, I run Debian
    Ouch. I think that cost a few points.
  29. FUCKING ASSHOLE@#!@# by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Go to Hell You FuCKING LACKEY

  30. WARNING: GOATSE.CX LINK!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  31. Re:Perhaps because few would want them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when last month IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    *BSD is dying

  32. Re:You can't even use a boot loader on Win2000... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit th beleaguered *BSD community when last month IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at ll it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For ll practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    *BSD is dying

  33. mod this up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    it's information that needs to be seen.. please mod it up.

  34. Re:Read this article - Worths Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    *BSD is dying

    Yet nothr crippling bombshell hit th beleaguered *BSD community when last month IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of ll servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disrray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick nd its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    *BS is dying

  35. Re:Impossible to do.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ya people always assume if you don't like niggers that you must live in the south. Yes the south has a reputation for honesty when it comes to the subhuman races such as the niggers. But in fact i find plenty of city dwellers hate the nigs as well. They are smelly, disgusting freeloaders with a penchant for crime and drug abuse. In the city you are forced to live with these chimps as your neighbor, then you realize how truly savage and digusting they are. I find most nigger lovers live off in the suburbs where they need not worry about a crack crazed jigaboo trying to rob them at knife point. In the suburbs you don't have to have some smelly niglet sitting next to you on the train blasting that foul nigger music in some peice of shit boombox. You don't have some smelly toothless crack monkey demanding your spare change outside of a bodega. Fucking trust me, if you leave those cozy little white suburbs and come share a city with these nigs you won't like them much either.

  36. Re:Read this article - Worths Gold by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    WALL FUKK ME PLEASE

    im a furry littl tr00l