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SBC/Pacbell To Filter 90% Of alt.binaries Groups

An Anonymous Coward writes: "I received an email from PacBell.net (Pacific Bell's ISP), stating that they're transitioning their usenet services to Prodigy. They're making a few changes along the way." He excerpts from the email: "In addition, after evaluating possible copyright infringement issues, newsgroup usage and the cost of providing newsgroup access, we will no longer offer some alt.binary newsgroups. For a list of alt.binaries that will no longer be offered, please refer to our FAQ at http://global.pacbell.net/usenet_update.html.' Note that the link currently doesn't go to the right place. After telephoning SBC, I was informed that upwards of 90% of the alt.binaries.* groups are going to be blocked."

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  1. Uncensored newsgroup access by Jish · · Score: 5, Informative
    I realize this story is about fighting censorship and arguing about how big business is taking away our freedoms...

    However, a good alternative for newsgroup access I have used for a while is:

    uncensored-news

    The upgrade regularly and I have never had problems accessing them or finding a group. And now they have a special server just for multimedia and binaries...

    Just a thought for any of you who want a solution other than an uphill battle with your ISP...

    Josh

    1. Re:Uncensored newsgroup access by great+throwdini · · Score: 5, Informative

      Interesting licensing terms over at uncensored-news:

      17. ACCEPTANCE
      "Bookmarking this web site shall constitute an implicit acceptance of the foregoing terms herein set."

      Having dragged the link from the parent post onto my desktop, I somehow managed to accept terms to a service about which I had not even read. We do live in strange times, don't we? :\

      Seriously though, no refunds, hostile chargeback policy, etc. It's being run as an 'adult service' but if it nets me a better feed of the rec.games.roguelike groups, maybe I'll...

  2. Re:Conduit/Content by DennyK · · Score: 5, Informative

    If they were actually filtering *traffic* based on content, that might leave them liable for all kinds of fun lawsuits. But in this case, they are not filtering traffic, they're just refusing to offer some newsgroups on their own news server. Essentially, they're only changing what content they are offering on their own server, not what kind of content passes over their lines...and no matter what the reasons, that should not affect (legally) their responsibility for general traffic. I'd guess PacBell/SBC customers can use any other news servers out there and still be able to access groups that aren't carried on Prodigy's.

    Thank goodness RoadRunner still offers most, if not "all", of the alt.binaries.* tree... ;)

    DennyK

  3. The email announcement by acceleriter · · Score: 5, Informative
    From: support@swbell.net
    To: deleted@swbell.net
    Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:20 AM
    Subject: Attention Usenet Newsgroup Users - Important Information


    Dear Southwestern Bell Internet Services Usenet Newsgroup Member,


    If you are currently using Southwestern Bell Internet Services Usenet
    Newsgroups, we have very important information for you. As you may know,
    Southwestern Bell Internet Services has teamed with Prodigy®, a leading
    national Internet service provider, as the Southwestern Bell Internet
    Services preferred source of Usenet Newsgroups and other Internet related
    services.


    On July 25, 2001, your newsgroup server, which is currently hosted by
    Southwestern Bell Internet Services, will begin a transition to Prodigy. To
    continue using Usenet Newsgroups after the final transition date of August
    25, you must update your newsgroup software with new server information.


    For instructions on how to change your Usenet software, please visit
    http://global.swbell.net/usenet_update.html. After August 19, your current
    settings will no longer be available.


    In addition, after evaluating possible copyright infringement issues,
    newsgroup usage and the cost of providing newsgroup access, we will no
    longer offer some alt.binary newsgroups. For a list of alt.binaries that
    will no longer be offered, please refer to our FAQ at
    http://global.swbell.net/usenet_update.html.


    For Southwestern Bell Internet Services customer support regarding Usenet,
    please call:

    * 1-800-NET-HELP for Dial-up Access Customers
    * 1-877-SBC-DSL5 for DSL Internet Customers

    Thank you for using our service and for your attention to this matter. See
    you on your new Usenet Newsgroup service!


    Sincerely,

    The Southwestern Bell Internet Services Team


    Copyright 2001 Southwestern Bell Internet Services, Inc All rights
    reserved. Southwestern Bell and Southwestern Bell Internet Services, Inc.
    are registered trademarks of SBC Communications Inc. or its subsidiaries.
    Prodigy is a registered trademark of Prodigy Communications L.P. Other names
    may be trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective owners.

    --

    CEE5210S The signal SIGHUP was received.