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Spectrum Wars: The Hidden Battle

PacketMaster writes: "The USA Today is carrying an interesting commentary entitled All-but-secret battle rages over fate of airwaves. The article sheds light on some topics that many people are completely ignorant on - the fight over the broadcast spectrum. The most interesting tidbit is that the current broadcasters, who were given the new digital spectrum for applications like HDTV for free, now want to keep their old ones too and auction them off for industry profit to help pay for the transition to the new spectrum."

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  1. socialize costs, privatize profits by gokubi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Gore Vidal, the great American essayist, novelist and playright said, "When you hear the word privitization, there is a burglar lurking."

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  2. Midair collisions by Erasei · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think one of the problems we will start seeing before long is interference. With more and more people/devices crowding into a static amount of space (until more of the spectrum is released) it is bound to get a little bumpy. How long until your wireless network won't work when you sign on to your local wireless "last-mile" provider?

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  3. Digital Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think digital radio would be a logical first step before digital TV - there's tons of wasted spectrum b/c of the pathetically outdated mandatory distance frequencies.

    Fix the easy stuff first (or at least concurrently).

    1. Re:Digital Radio by John+Miles · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not clear what you mean by "wasted spectrum," or what benefits you expect to come from reclaiming it.

      The entire AM broadcast band takes up the same bandwidth as one-fourth of a conventional TV channel. Like the entire MF/HF spectrum, it's completely useless for anything besides voice communication due to limited bandwidth and excessive noise.

      The entire FM broadcast band occupies the equivalent of 5 TV channels. Any attempt to monkey with the FM BC allocation will render hundreds of millions of home and car radios obsolete. If you think DTV is a political boondoggle that offers insufficient benefits to consumers, you wouldn't want to think about messing with FM.

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    2. Re:Digital Radio by silicon_synapse · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are several providers of satellite radio. The target market is mostly high end cars. Two popular ones are Sirius Radio and XM Radio. If I had the money, I'd love to give it a try. I believe they're subscription based, but it's probably well worth it. Has anyone here used such a service?

    3. Re:Digital Radio by Detritus · · Score: 2

      Another problem with the AM and FM bands is that the only politically acceptable digital broadcasting system seems to be IBOC (in-band on-channel). This means that broadcasters would use their existing frequency allocations to broadcast an additional digital signal along with the analog signal. This keeps the power and money in the hands of the existing broadcasters and keeps out the riff-raff (i.e. you).

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    4. Re:Digital Radio by Aztech · · Score: 2

      They have Digital Radio in Europe, the BBC has been broadcasting since 1995 in its final format, it's based round the DAB standard, basically MPEG2 with COFDM encoding with the provision for datacasts or any type of data for that matter.

      It's totally abstracted from the old FM system and uses a new set of frequencies, Band-III which around 200-230mhz, this used to be used for the very old 405 B&W TV service that dates back to WW2.

      They shut of the service in the early eighties because it was clear absolutely everyone had moved onto colour/PAL. Then they started the 'Eureka 147' project to develop Digital Radio.

      Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot of room left in the US spectrum to separately allocate bandwidth for digital radio, so Lucent have been developing IBOC, which resides as a FM subcarrier, so no need to allocate new frequencies. It works a little like the European RDS (Radio Data Services, station titles etc) except the performance is obviously better than RDS's 8bits/s (in fall fairness it is quite old). The problem is the standard at the moment is susceptible to multipath problems and can degrade the existing FM broadcasts, the standard also relies on the old FM analogue broadcast at times, which kind of defeats the object.

      However, if they get the problems sorted out and produce a reasonably cheap chipset it means you can have digital radio without new spectrum, a big plus! But Lucent could potentially be swimming against the tide since DAB has world-wide adoption and has been in use for a while (i.e. it's proven). I doubt the standard will reach very far internationally, but the US is obviously a big market in its own right.

  4. Airwaves are protected by International treaty by jd · · Score: 2

    Unfortunately, International treaties seem to have remarkably short lives, around a certain GWB. It wouldn't surprise me, if his "resolution" to the problem was to deregulate radio transmissions entirely.

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  5. Free in, free out... no? by tcc · · Score: 2


    If they would have payed for the new spectrum, My guess is they would have had an argument for auctionning the rest, but since they've got it for free, they've "saved" that extra investment (or tax), plus, knowing that in the end, it won't be a reason to lower the cost of the products they will sell using that spectrum, I'd say, leave the lower almost unused spectrum a bit more open for developpement for projects or org. that couldn't afford to pay a tax/license right for it (i.e. local or + wireless community internet access, school research projects).

    It's a bit like computers, it's not because a workstation is old and not useful for rendering in your graphics/video editing company, that it cannot do a nice web server (or anything else requiring less power) in an non-profit organisation.

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  6. They want their cake AND eat it? by Jhon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The audacity of this idea is breathtaking. After Congress gave broadcasters public airwaves worth $70 billion -- or far more -- on the condition that they would return their analog spectrum to the public in a timely fashion, they now want to keep both, auction one off and pocket the proceeds!


    What were the conditions of returning "their analog spectrum to the public"? Did they forbid broadcasters from making a profit when they returned them to the public? Did they limit how the broadcasters could return them to the public?

    After my knee-jerk "how dare those bastards" reaction, I took time to think about it and I'm not so sure this is a problem.

    -jhon
    1. Re:They want their cake AND eat it? by Sunken+Kursk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The impression I got from the story is that in 2006 the broadcasters would have to quit broadcasting on the analog spectrum and return their licenses to the FCC. This would then allow the FCC to issue new licenses for broadcasting in the analog spectrum. I don't think it in any way meant they could hold a little public auction in front of their buildings saying "The bid for Channel 4 is up to $250,000, the bid for channel 5 is up to $270,000, and the bid for channel 61 is up to $73,000"

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    2. Re:They want their cake AND eat it? by Detritus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It isn't "their spectrum" in the first place. They hold licenses to broadcast in the public interest and convenience. The licenses are not a property right, they are a privilege that can be modified or terminated at any time. Sometimes they forget that.

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    3. Re:They want their cake AND eat it? by Kefabi · · Score: 2, Informative

      What were the conditions of returning "their analog spectrum to the public"? Did they forbid broadcasters from making a profit when they returned them to the public? Did they limit how the broadcasters could return them to the public?

      After my knee-jerk "how dare those bastards" reaction, I took time to think about it and I'm not so sure this is a problem.


      This is a problem. Think about it a little more. If they are auctioning off the old airwaves and make some cash off it, that means somebody (or some corporation) would be willing to pay for control of the old airwaves. That isn't quite "public" in my book. Public parks are for anyone who wants to stay there and enjoy themselves, owned lots of land that only certain people are allowed to use.

    4. Re:They want their cake AND eat it? by NMerriam · · Score: 2

      Interesting, If you change references to Spectrum in the comment to Music we have the same essential argument that the RIAA is making about MP3s.

      Not really -- the radio spectrum is finite. There are only so many broadcasts that can happen at once.

      Music is infinitely reproducable. There is no limit to how many times it can be copied without degrading the original.

      No one is claiming intellectual property rights on the airwaves -- we're claiming physical property rights. We own the airwaves, and the government leases them out for fixed periods on our behalf.

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    5. Re:They want their cake AND eat it? by unitron · · Score: 2
      "We own the airwaves, and the government leases them out for fixed periods on our behalf."

      Except that they aren't really leased (which is what they should do instead of auctioning spectrum off to private ownership *forever*). Broadcasters may pay certain fees to the FCC ( and fines if they screw up), but the FCC doesn't even begin to collect enough money to be self-supporting in their job of managing the airwaves on behalf of the public. A license to transmit is a license to print money.

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  7. Where are the Politicians? by eander315 · · Score: 3, Funny
    Maybe some reporter, somewhere, now will decide to focus his or her attention on a potential $200-billion rape of the American taxpayer.

    Aren't our elected officials supposed to at least TRY to protect their electorate from this kind of thing? $200 BILLION is a lot of money! I don't think we should have to rely on one or two reporters to stop a $200 BILLION theft. It would be nice if our elected officials would stop counting their kickbacks, bribes and lobbyist money and start doing their jobs.

  8. 3G (slightly OT) by Sawbones · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While the whole process is working out less than ideal, I'm pleased to see the government taking an active stance on bringing 3G to the states. I know there are a couple of GSM cel carriers here in the states now but they don't really have the same coverage as the old CDM and TDMA (I think those are the acronymns) systems that AT&T and such have. I'd love to have some of the whiz-bang new phones (or one of the more stylish australian models) but because the rest of the world operates on a different system I'm out of luck.

    Chalk it up to good intentions but (potentially) poor implementation I suppose.

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  9. Re:Maybe I'm missing something, but... by LordNimon · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Or are they just inefficiently allocated or something?

    You think?

    The rest of the world waits until the U.S. is finished making the mistakes that often come when a new technology is introduced. The problem is that once we realize we've made mistakes, our "solution" is to patch things up, not throw the whole thing out and start over. In the meantime, the rest of the world says, "Ok, the U.S. has invented this technology and discovered some of the problems. Now how can we implement it correctly?"

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  10. nice summary by S.+Allen · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The public knows little about this; even some experts are unaware of the machinations. Not surprisingly, television has not covered it. But the consequences, for all of us, are staggering. Given the stakes, and the power of the players, it will get attention eventually ? but if past experience is any guide, only after the critical decisions have been made. Maybe some reporter, somewhere, now will decide to focus his or her attention on a potential $200-billion rape of the American taxpayer.

    The machinations on Capitol Hill are increasingly out of control. Of course the broadcasters will get their cake and eat it too (selling spectrum they were given for free) since they only have to funnel a small % of the proceeds to suddenly supportive senators.
    Let's dispense with the formalities and just post a large for-sale sign outside the capitol:

    laws and regulations starting in the low 500's. modern and convenient. spaciously appointed. no need to wait.

  11. US problems by jahjeremy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The most damning quote:
    After Congress gave broadcasters public airwaves worth $70 billion -- or far more -- on the condition that they would return their analog spectrum to the public in a timely fashion, they now want to keep both, auction one off and pocket the proceeds!
    Reeks of typical American corporate machinations.
    1) Get something for the government for free / dirt cheap.
    2) Go back on the contract / agreement.
    3) Make bucketloads of cash.
    4) Government (and taxpayers) suck it up
    With analog TV, digital TV, satellite TV, cellphones, emergency services, police and fire communications, etc., we have a serious shortage of spectrum.
    Rather than a a shortage of bandwidth, I think the true problem in the States is a lack of decent, informed, relatively unbiased regulation headed by the Fed and too many interested parties such as corporations with a lot of money and lawyers.
  12. HDTV is a disaster by YIAAL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The whole HDTV plan is a disaster. No one is buying HDTV (and, reports to the contrary, I don't think it looks significantly better, so I don't think anyone will). You can't force people to buy it, and you can't deploy it when no one has it.

    It's a spectrum-hungry technology that no one really wants. Plus, it's a big selloff to companies that don't deserve the help.

    1. Re:HDTV is a disaster by S.+Allen · · Score: 2, Informative

      True. HDTV is a complete disaster. But you're wrong about the quality. It is significantly better. You just have to lay down the bucks for decent hardware.

      Having said that, I just cancelled my DirecTV subscription. I originally got it because they promised HDTV programming. After 1 year, this turned out to be 1 channel (HBO) and an infernal demo loop of the same old shit every day. Solution: go down to Radio Shack and buy the biggest honking roof aerial antenna you can find.

      DirecTV -- you're a bunch of dicks. When I called about getting the SuperBowl in HDTV, they responded that they weren't carrying it due to lack of customer demand. What a crock! I stated that I was a customer and I demanded it. Oh, well. That's why they're in the toilet and bleeding customers and money.

  13. Real Privatization by Arandir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This quasi-privatization of the airwaves combines the worst of both worlds, with few, if any, of the best. All the worst of government regulation, and all the worst of business since they control a product which someone else owns.

    Let's have real privatization of the airwaves. Yes, their is a fixed amount of frequencies available, but the market works for other fixed resources, like real estate. Will there be some large players that will grab up large chunks of frequencies? Of course! But I would rather have half a dozen mega conglomerates competing with each other, than a single government agency accountable to no one at all. (and of course, government regulation has done nothing to hinder the current crop of megacorps, but plenty to keep the small independent off the market)

    How would it work in practice? Just take a look at the internet. Next to zero regulation, backbones that in many areas are fixed resources, heavy commercialization, yet there are unlimited opportunities for individuals, non-profits, and other noncommercial organizations.

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    1. Re:Real Privatization by Geckoman · · Score: 2, Insightful
      How would it work in practice? Just take a look at the internet. Next to zero regulation, backbones that in many areas are fixed resources, heavy commercialization, yet there are unlimited opportunities for individuals, non-profits, and other noncommercial organizations.

      The difference here is that the Internet can grow. Anybody with enough capital can lay down another backbone. The simple act of dialing up with a modem essentially expands the network. Somebody with a CB talking to his buddy doesn't add an additional frequency, and now matter how much money a company has, they can't expand the electromagnetic spectrum.

      The real estate analogy is more apt, but it should be pointed out that the federal government owns massive amounts of land, especially in western states.

    2. Re:Real Privatization by Arandir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the airwaves were NOT regulated, then what is to stop me from broadcasting at the same frequency you are? If you start talking about protocols or laws, then you are sliding down the path to regulation.

      Privatizing the airwaves means that frequencies would be owned just like any other property. Without government regulation it will be harder to protect and defend these properties (just like the lack of trespass laws would make it harder to defend your home), but it can be done.

      In an anarcho-capitalist society (as an example), if everyone started broadcasting on whatever frequency seemed most convenient at the time, very shortly all of the broadcasters would agree on certain rules of the road, and enforce them through contracts. In an anarcho-socialist society (to take another example), individuals and companies could not own property, but syndicates and collectives would manage the unowned resources (they would "own" those resources in all but name) and they would make similar agreements with each other regarding the airwaves.

      The management of the airwaves is an old and settled topic on both the libertarian and socialist spectrum. Only those advocating mixed economies still consider it an insoluble problem.

      The airwaves belong just as much to me as they do to anybody else; don't be so eager about taking away my property.

      When a certain resource is limited, property is the most efficient means of allocating it. Even under pure socialist dogma, property will still exist in all but name. Consider other limited resources, like airspace. Private airports are every bit as efficient as public airports in managing the use of the airspace around them.

      Of course, the airwaves are much more complicated than other forms of property, even intellectual property. How can you own something that is everywhere? How can someone else be justified in owning broadcast rights for a frequency that anyone can receive anywhere? The problem is, the airwaves are still limited, and in order to be of use, someone has to control/own them, and odds are it won't be you. It might be the government (who still won't let you broacast on them despite the fact that they give lip service to the public being the actual owners), a corporation, a cooperative, a wealthy individual, etc.

      Sure you get a single vote with the government. But you also get multiple votes with commercial firms. With governments it's a winner-take-all election, but with business it's a share-the-pie arrangement. Piss off enough customers and see your market share erode. Please everyone in the world and you'll still have competition.

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    3. Re:Real Privatization by Arandir · · Score: 2

      Okay, let's look at real estate. Other than the government, I don't see vast areas of the earth owned by single entities. San Fransisco is not owned by one large corporation. Berkeley is not owned by one large cooprerative. LA is not owned by some hollywood magnate.

      You may have large tracts here are there owned by one firm or another, but by and large, there are no monopolies or cartels on real estate (in the US at least).

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  14. The auction of spectrum by prisoner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    while it brings in alot of $$$ has always seemed somewhat shady to me. While this article isn't well balanced, it has always seemed like the users of that spectrum have been well-funded businesses and I get nervous when they get in too tight with the regulating agency. A breath-taking example of this coziness is that the NAB would have the balls to propose auctioning their old analog spectrum and keeping the money. And yes, I read the article and if you don't think they won't manage to stuff most of that money in their own pockets, you're crazy. I thought that by giving the networks free spectrum for HDTV (or whatever it may be called by now) the Gov't and, by extension, the people *were* speeding up the process and cutting broadcasters costs.....sheesh.

    1. Re:The auction of spectrum by mfarver · · Score: 2, Interesting

      We're faced with a problem of a scarce but valuable resource. As usual the government and the corporations that control it are loudly contemplating how much money its worth, but everyone forgets that the government holds this spectrum in the public trust. The government remembers this occasionally, which is why there were minority clauses in the last spectrum auctions, allowing disadvantaged organizations to buy spectrum at a reduced price.. a dismal failure since it turned out small organizations didn't have enough money to build giant centralized systems using that spectrum.

      It turns out the idea that spectrum must be parcelled out to monopolies in order to avoid interferce is largely a lie. New technologies like spread spectrum make it possible to cram far more signals into the same spectrum and do so in a decentralized way. Take the unlicensed 2.4GHz band for example, this bit of free for all spectrum suffers from some interference, but at the same time wireless devices utilizing it (cordless phones, 802.11) are dirt cheap, and widely available.

      The best (for the public) way to parcel out 3G spectrum is to make it unlicensed, and force everyone one to the same playing field.

  15. Interference? by dragons_flight · · Score: 2

    I don't have a lot of experience with wireless communications. Thus far all I've used is radio, a wireless phone handset, and an emergency cell phone. In my daily life then interference has never caused any critical problems. Sure there is the occasional static on radio or what not, but the signal to noise ratio is generally quite good and a little corruption isn't that bad.

    My question to you then is how bad is interference now and has it been getting worse? When you are running wireless networks and systems where single bit errors can be serious, how well do the failsafes work? Can you give examples where interference was/is a persistent serious problem?

    Obviously if we keep expanding the spectrum and pumping more things into the air, there will be more interference. So right now are we doing pretty good that we can tolerate more interference, or are in the position of making a real problem much worse?

    PS While I respect radio astronomers, your problems are not typical. We may simply have to accept that what's useful to us is harmful to you and the overall utility might trump some methods of research.

  16. Re:Maybe I'm missing something, but... by mellifluous · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually the amount of spectrum currently allocated to cellular is similar in the US to many other countries. One of the main reasons we do not see 3G yet is the expensive of overhauling infrastructure on a massive scale compared to many other countries, combined with an economic slowdown in the communications sector. US users have also been historically slower to adopt new features, so carriers are more cautious. Its the classic chicken and egg problem of new technology - industry needs users to spur revenue for 3G development, but users want widespread 3G technology before adopting.

  17. It's TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The US gives a lot of spectrum to TV (and the military, but that's another story). So, Americans are behind in cell phone technology, but get to watch more TV channels (even without cable).Network Magazine has an interesting article about this.

  18. For those of you who didn't read the article... by trcooper · · Score: 3, Informative

    Which seems to be quite a few knee-jerk posters...

    The point of the article was that the broadcast industry wants to profit from the sale of the analog spectrum they agreed to return to the public in 2006. They were given the new spectrum, valued at over 70 billion, for free. So, they want to take our property, and sell it.

    In addition the current military spectrum is very much desired. The military would either like to keep it, or obtain the anaolog spectrum from broadcasters. Some folks in congress want to auction off the military spectrum, and the debate is whether the money goes to the military to help convert to another spectrum, or to other programs.

  19. Fundamental problem with Campaign Contributions by Tattva · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, of course the broadcasters are going to try to do this. Do the math, they only need to contribute 20 million or so of soft money to reap a 200 billion windfall. That's a 1000000% return on investment.

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  20. Eben Moglen talked about this 4 years ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Eben Moglen (Prof. at Columbia Univ. and General Counsel for the FSF) was talking about the spectrum giveaway to TV broadcasters 4 years ago. See here. Interesting historical perspective.

  21. Re:OT: What's up with this? by Fat+Casper · · Score: 3, Informative
    Because it is valuable public property, it gets auctioned off- if it's being used for commercial (private profits) interests, the people deserve to be paid fairly for it.

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  22. DTV != HDTV by dragons_flight · · Score: 3, Informative

    Digital Television != High Definition Television.

    Of course HDTV typically has a digital signal (some countries actually have tried analog high-def signals), but digital television just means using a digital signal instead of analog and that can include the contemporary TV format.

    Afterall digital cable companies and satelite providers already commonly transmit digital signals of contemporary sized and formatted television programs.

    The plan was to transmit over air TV signals digitally because it is a more efficient use of spectrum than analog and then retire the analog transmissions once there was sufficient penetration of TVs that could read and decode digital signals.

    Of course the companies would like to get everyone behind the higher res, wider, bandwidth hungry HDTV format and spew that all over the air waves as well or exclusively, but personally that seems more like a marketing gimmick than an especially useful technology. Even if digital broadcasting takes off, don't expect all the shows on the air to be HDTV formatted, at least not any time soon.

  23. Re:Shocked and Appalled by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 2

    OK. I'll bite.

    Aircraft
    Ro/Ro Cargo ships
    Computers
    Internet
    Automobiles
    6 and 8 cylinder engines
    Radial aircraft engines
    Tires
    Reusable space vehicles
    Medical Imaging
    Chemotherapy

    There are a few things the US has been a fore-runner of that didn't involve killing people somewhere else.

  24. Information on spectrum giveaway and renewal by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The digital spectrum, estimated to be worth $70 billion, was given away in 1996, to existing broadcasters. Prior to that, the spectrum was public property due to be auctioned off to broadcasters; after all, who but the public as a whole could be justified in having defacto ownership of something so widespread and intangible? Auctions like these created a balance of public interests, and offered opportunities to American businesses. By 'renting' this public property, business could flourish while operating under guidelines that ensured the public's airwaves would serve the public good. A plutocratic minority would love to tell you about how the evil government is censoring their broadcasts, but the truth is that airwaves that are won through these auctions are regulated by a 'public good' that is defined by public commentary to the FCC. These auctions are the ultimate example of free-market in a democracy, because the buck stops at the people.

    But with the Telecommunications Act of 1996, it was Trent Lott who prohibited the auctions, and forced the FCC to give licenses away. The act also prohibited consideration of anyone but the renewal applicant for the license, assuring that only the owners of the ill-gotten licenses would be keeping them, and I quote:
    `(4) COMPETITOR CONSIDERATION PROHIBITED- In making the
    determinations specified in paragraph (1) or (2), the
    Commission shall not consider whether the public interest,
    convenience, and necessity might be served by the grant of a
    license to a person other than the renewal applicant.'.


    You do the math.

    Deciding whether to side with the FCC or with Corporate America in this matter is easy. I live in a democracy; if I don't like the government I can run for office and change it. I don't like Carnivore, Echelon, the DMCA, and I would like to play a significant role in having the NSA and the CIA dissolved and opened to the scrutiny of the world. Why does it work this way when 90% of the country, left and right, libertarian and conservative, doesn't like it? Why can't I change the way this government works? It's because no one takes office without large corporate donors behind them, and no one campaigns without the millions of dollars needed to get themselves on corporate airwaves. The public would never know your name, and that would gaurantee you a sideline seat for the election debates that, by the way, happen to be corporate-sponsored as well. It's one big joke.
    1. Re:Information on spectrum giveaway and renewal by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 2

      JFK campaigned on a plan to break up the CIA. He was following through too. But then, well, he got shot.

    2. Re:Information on spectrum giveaway and renewal by Sarcasmooo! · · Score: 2

      Bush made the comment because his legal team filed suit against a comedy website, so, you be the judge.

    3. Re:Information on spectrum giveaway and renewal by Quila · · Score: 2

      First of all, the sig is wrong, it should be "There Ought to be Limits to Freedom."

      This was said in the context of a web site operator exercising his right to free speech. That this was political speech makes it even more strongly protected. That it was often parody makes the case even stronger.

      I remember a story recently that looked pretty bad for GW ("The military's this big?"), and it turned out it was straight from the newswire. Other stories like his criminal past, lying under oath in a civil court case (sounds familiar, huh?), payback for campaign donations, land theft, and military desertion are all quite well documented.

      GW has a long history of using his might to silence opponents, and this was just the latest example.

  25. Sirius Radio by dpilot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Aren't they a subsidiary of Sirius Cybernetics?

    You know, the inventors of the talking doors...

    The first ones with their back against the wall when the revolution comes.

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  26. What about UWB? by PopeAlien · · Score: 2

    Ultra WideBand looks promising for PDA/ Wireless data transfer, and with that kind of bandwidth you could shove quite alot of stuff including video.. Lets just do away with 'traditional' broadcasters - Its the future already.

  27. No, we won't see problems with interference by megalomang · · Score: 4, Informative
    The reason that the spectrum is partitioned off is precisely why we won't have interference. Each band is regulated and has either sufficient guard band so that the energy "leakage" into adjacent bands is minimal or simply has a prescribed permissable leakage that the adjacent band can tolerate.

    Digital communication is inherently immune to noise caused by several types of interference. Many channel encoding schemes exist precisely to deal with interference that is typical of the frequency range of the band, doppler effects, echoes, etc. Yes, there is a statistically small amount of bit error you will receive given a statistically small amount of noise energy present in the band, but there is no recent trend of rising noise energy in any given frequency band.

    So don't worry, your phone, tv, AM/FM radio, talkabout, bluetooth device, etc will not eventually stop working due to the noise level passing some magic threshold.

    For more info, look at the frequency allocation on the FCC web pages:
    http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf

  28. Lease, don't sell by Animats · · Score: 2

    The optimal money-making strategy for the Government would be to lease, rather than sell, spectrum. Auction off 5-year leases every 5 years. That would keep broadcasters on their toes.

  29. Spectrum Wars-- and don't forget the sequels: by quintessent · · Score: 2
    Episode V: The Firewire Strikes Back

    Episode VI: Return of the Satellite

    Episode I: The FedEx Envelope

    Episode II: Attack of the Hayes Clones

    Episode III: Strings Between the Soup Cans

  30. The money's already been spent by Quila · · Score: 2

    IIRC, a couple of years ago when Congress balanced the budget, they used a little bit of trickery. It seems that they took the amount of money to be gained in 2006 from spectrum auctions and applied it to the current budget in order to balance it, essentially borrowing against future income.

    Now what happens if the broadcasters keep the spectrum?

  31. Re:Maybe I'm missing something, but... by unitron · · Score: 2
    "i realize that someone needs to be in charge of this sort of thing, or else chaos will ensue....but how did the government come to "own" the spectrum?"

    The government doesn't own the spectrum, the people of the U.S. do. However, as you point out, someone needs to be in charge of this sort of thing, and when it was decided somewhere back around the 1920s that it shouldn't remain in the hands of the military they put it under the Commerce Dept. or somewhere like that until the Communications Act of 1933 was passed and the Federal Communications Commission was created.

    The idea is that the FCC exercises stewardship over the airwaves on behalf of the public, and broadcasters used to be granted licenses to operate "in the public interest" a particular type of service (AM, FM, TV, microwave relay, weather radar, air traffic control radar, amateur radio, citizens band, whatever)within a particular frequency range, at a certain power level, in a specific geographical area, at particular times of day, etc., according to specific technical requirements to prevent interference with other services. If you didn't behave yourself and keep the FCC happy you could find yourself with a lot of money tied up in land and equipment that you no longer could legally use for its intended purpose.

    Nowadays, however, the broadcasters have come to believe that they have some divine right to this license to print money, and the auctioning of spectrum space (instead of leasing) means that certain bandwidths are gone forever no matter what may happen in the future that would make it desirable to re-assign them for some other service, including, I suspect, even instances where the military is denied something that they need and our national defense is compromised.

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