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MacOS X Upgrade Not Free Anymore?
Jacek Fedorynski writes: "Remember when Steve Jobs said that the MacOS X 10.1 upgrade would be available to anyone to download for free and also on a CD for $20? Well, it seems that they changed their minds about the free download."
Evans Data study announces that BSD is one of the most popular embedded operating systems
Evans Data Corporation, a market research company focused on the software development community, announced in their mbedded Systems Developer Survey that BSD Unix will grow to be the #5 most popular embedded operating system in 2002 -- up from this year, when BSD did not even appear on the chart. Wasabi Systems is a developer of NetBSD, the number one BSD operating system in the embedded market space.
Embedded operating systems are used in products where computers aren't visible to the end-user, such as consumer electronics (PDAs, cell phones), household appliances, and higher-end products such as Internet boxes and servers.
The Evans report surveyed 500 embedded systems developers to study multiple aspects of embedded systems' development, including hardware and software platforms, Linux, Java and open source software, types of applications, embedded databases and development tools. Developers indicated that open source code, royalty-free licensing and a large community of knowledgeable developers were cited as key benefits.
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The truth is out. *BSD is thriving.
Jobs is a purist...but his investors are not...
Jobs may want it free, but with Uncle Bill kicking his ass in the market share, he can't afford to give the kitty away for nuthin.
Appended to the end of comments you post. 120 chars.
All the free unixes offer downloads of components or complete iso's.
Hell if you wanted to mirror all the linux distro's you could do it with rsync.
Whoops this closed source non-unix iFruit MacOS XP doesn't have big bandwidth friends willing to mirror it for free because Apple doesn't give a damn thing back to the community from which it stole its code from. (BSD)
My understanding is the $20 gets you a full 10.1 CD. What I'd like to see is an upgrade-only CD which could cost less (or nothing) and be passed out at Apple Stores and places like college computer stores then duplicated and shared by whoever cares to.
...why is there only this one guy saying 10.1 will be payware? MacCentral doesn't have a story, nor MacNN, nor MacSlash.
Heck, this claim isn't even on MacOSRumors, and Ryan is a total weasel known to post ANY random crap that comes his way.
Maybe it's true, maybe not. But one guy on MacObserver isn't convincing.
In fact, in the keynote, Steve NEVER ONCE even mentioned downloading 10.1. He said, and the slide below him showed:
Everyone just assumed it would be free for download, as that is the Apple standard, but as this is a three CD set (X 10.1, 9.2.1, updated Developer Tools CD), with a megabyte count well into the hundreds, I am not surprised that it is not for download, and for three discs and likely a manual or two, twenty bucks ain't all that out of line.
(And yes, I know other *nix distros are often available for d-load, but, and I am just speculating here, it may be that some things need to be installed from a different CD. Perhaps the non-Darwin/BSD portions? And keep in mind Mac users are less likely to have cd-burning capabilities.)
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Whatever, the important part is _when_ does the sucker come out? I can't wait to get rid of this os 9 crap that's laying around just to play dvd's.
Steve never promised a free d/l, in the keynote the slide had the 19.95 price.
The reason why it is not a freebie is because they use Akamai for everything now, and the d/l is too big to be Akamized. Basically once you go over about 50MB they can't handle it.
Of course they have made exceptions, such as the Developer Tools CD, but the 10.1 d/ls would suck so much bandwidth compared to that makes it unacceptable not to Akamize to Apple's IT people (who I found to be a bit dim when I worked with them).
I bet that the added revenue is probably a plus too in these economic times, but they are probably not making too much. While it is true that shipping and media are cheap, you have to factor in logistics, support (averaging at $23 per call for Apple), and of course the cost of the actual Engineering work done to create the thing.Apple is a for-profit company. They can't do anything for free.
Down with apple.
It's spelled FUBAR, not foobar, the industrious freshman noted.
The first thing that enters the mind of the typical mac or wintel user when they see the price for OS X is "wow, it's more expensive than MacOS". The first thing that entered mine was "wow, that's cheap".
If people were more realistic about the cost of software development Apple could have sold OS X for $500 and have released it for several platforms. Instead we had millions of people complain about $120 and many even asking Apple to GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE!
They already do that, provided you buy a mac.
Finally the difference between 10.0 and 10.1 is like between night and day, it's well worth the $20.
Now stop your bitching before I get my cluestick.
>80 column hard wrapped e-mail is not a sign of intelligent
>life
Yet another crippling bombshell hit th beleaguered *BSD community when last month IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
*BSD is dying
Mac OS X is basically a toy right now. Yeah, it can do all the cool server stuff like Apache and PHP like any UNIXish system, but there are tons of BSD and Linux distro's that do it better, and much cheaper.
The stuff that makes Mac OS X better-native DVD playback, decent speed on the GUI, X-native apps from heavy hitters like MS and Adobe, just aren't there yet.
Apple should thank the early adopters that bothered to shell out $100, instead of shamelessly charging them for what should have been in OS X since day one.
Just another example of the abusive Apple-pampering users with a great GUI, then beating them down with unreasonable charges.
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Why get it? Just use Mac Os 8 =)
because Apple wrote a license which forbids operating quicktime on
alternative platforms.
How 'bout doing some research before speaking.6 /crossover_partone.html
See:
http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2001/09/0
"Not only was Apple helpful with the technology issues," Graham said, "but they even changed the QuickTime license..."
Where's the blackhole and who's the whore?
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