I emailed the author, and got this reply:
I appreciate your thoughts and understand them completely. It is
not posted on my web site, but this issue is between Katie Jones and
Penguin Putnam. They own the name Katie.com as a published book and
decided to call it that. I can do nothing in my power to change it. I
would suggest if you would like your voice to be heard and a chance that
something is done about it, direct your sympathy to Penguin Putnam. For
the record I have never harassed Katie Jones for her site.
Best, Katie Tarbox
Whether that is true or not, I have no idea, but in the interest of fairness, her reply should be noted, I think. I have to admit, my (limited) knowledge of publishing seems to indicate the actual author has very little juice here.
There is no battery problem. If it dies like all batteries will eventually, (and most ipods are still going strong two years in), you can replace it yourself, or get Apple to do it.
One person who may or may not have had a bad battery and decided to slander Apple for publicity does not a battery problem make.
On a quick sidenote, if you sort by album, it does list the songs in the order they are on the album. Assuming that info is in the ID3 tags of course. Otherwise, it goes alphabetically by song name.
Actually, Christophe left because he was a whiny crybaby. His leaving, in a huff, with no plan or care about how Fink would go forward, may be the best thing that ever HAPPENED to Fink. I'll, probably justifiably, get modded down for this, but I think it's about time someone said it, so I'll take the risk.
That aside, everything said above about OpenOSX's theft is 100% true, and I'll not be supporting them anytime soon, and really, neither should you.
Consider me corrected, and thanks for the info.
When I set up Testing (not long ago at all), it was not nearly up-to-date. I found an unofficial source for newer KDE, and just assumed that the mains were still lagging badly.
Well, you know what they say...
(and, hey! first accepted submission! go me!)
Oh, it's even more pointless than that. All the happy GUI stuff isn't part of Darwin anyway.
On x86 it just becomes a less mature BSD.
I'm a huge fan of Apple, Mac (not all in caps, notice) OS X and the whole Darwin concept and functionality, but my in-process-of-building server will be running Debian Linux or FreeBSD. There's just no advantage to x86 Darwin.
>> Well, considering the GUI is in the BIOS, I'd think it would be pretty difficult to completely get rid of it.
Good Lord. When was the last time THAT was true??
Now, correct me if I am wrong, cause, hey, I probably am, but does this not seem like just one more subtle insult from Apple to Microsoft? Well-deserved, I might add, but why all these recent jabs?
The switch ads are the obvious, but I find this, and the fact that MS's recent fake switch ad made it to Apple's Hot News page quite interesting from a company that publically expressed all is well between them and MS.
Unless, of course... you have something better you're planning to push.... (Which I'm not saying must be the oft-rumored iBrowse. Could just be Mozilla)
Okay, not to talk trash about NASA, as I'm a huge supporter of the agency and the space program in general.... but luring a big-ass rock closer to the orbit of the Earth just strikes me as a REALLY BAD IDEA.
Remember when that asteroid was en route to that planet where Kirk thought he was Kirok? And that was a danger WITH tractor beam technology.
I live in Jersey, and easily manage to watch 10-12 movies a month through netflix. If I send it off on a mon, I usually have a replacement by sat, sometimes as soon as fri, worst case by mon, and that's mine getting there and them sending a new one here. And with three, that means I get a new one every few days.
Word.
The issue with RMS' extreme pro-open source position is that, as an extreme position, it is easy to demonize and ignore, taking the more moderate, and reasonable, positions with it. Does he have the best of intentions? at times. But the harm done to the Open Source Community by his foolish guidelines and the juvenile Linux v. GNU/Linux debate is at least as strong.
"so in other words they combine both mac and NeXT interfaces and drop some of the best UI aspects of them, only to add them back in when people go wtf. "
And add some new ones, too. It's a give and take. Apple's been very good at responding to user feedback, i think. One need only compare 10.1 to the Public Beta to see that.
"It just that some people are going all "apple is using unix so they're on 'our side' now" and the fact of the matter is that if *nix and open-source wasn't trendy right now (thanks to linux and gnu) I very much doubt that they would have told anyone that it contained BSD code and they wouldn't have included terminal.app, no Darwin and it would be as opaque as os9 and below"
but the 'what-ifs' are irrelevant. The fact is that they are hyping the *nix aspect, they are giving back to the upstream, and they are suddenly the biggest and most profile Unix vendor in the world
whatever theories you may have, and they may or may not be right, that doesn;t change the fact that that is not how it has happened. Shouldn't we praise them for what they are doing, instead of condemn them for what they might have done but didn't?
1 - dock icon areas do not extend to edge of dock.
Not sure what you mean by this. The icon areas do indeed reach the edges. Early versions did not have infinite depth, but since 10.0 they have.
2 - dock changes size and icons move as it gets used
This can easily be turned off however. Personally, I like it, though it took me a non-trivial amount of time to get used to it.
3 - what if you don't like grey or blue? Maybe OSX.2 will have green and OSX.3 will have purple...
Point taken.
4 - it has vi so when I go to the apple help and type in vi I expect to see at least something.
For the sake of simplicity though, I like the way they have it. Apple help covers Apple's GUI methods. If you want to deal with the UNIX stuff, simply pull up a terminal or log in as console and 'man terminal'. Hell, if you know what vi is, you know man.
5 - stupid windowesque scroll bars - the scroll-bars were one of the things which NeXT got right for Steve's sake;-)
I'm insufficiently familiar with NeXTStep to answer this, but if you mean having both arrows on each end, 10.1 adds this option. If that's not what you mean, I can't reply.
6 - way too much eye-candy, at least I can not install Enlightenment.
(assuming not=now) Again, personal preference. You do have xfree86 options, as you said, though I realize you can't use that GUI on your X apps
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I emailed the author, and got this reply: I appreciate your thoughts and understand them completely. It is not posted on my web site, but this issue is between Katie Jones and Penguin Putnam. They own the name Katie.com as a published book and decided to call it that. I can do nothing in my power to change it. I would suggest if you would like your voice to be heard and a chance that something is done about it, direct your sympathy to Penguin Putnam. For the record I have never harassed Katie Jones for her site. Best, Katie Tarbox Whether that is true or not, I have no idea, but in the interest of fairness, her reply should be noted, I think. I have to admit, my (limited) knowledge of publishing seems to indicate the actual author has very little juice here.
There is no battery problem. If it dies like all batteries will eventually, (and most ipods are still going strong two years in), you can replace it yourself, or get Apple to do it.
One person who may or may not have had a bad battery and decided to slander Apple for publicity does not a battery problem make.
no.
Especially since it was GROVER'S Mills. (sigh)
Have you got a native Mac OSX version of MS Word then???
. aspx?pid=wordx
Uh... of course. You were kidding, right? Please say you were kidding.
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/wordx/wordx
On a quick sidenote, if you sort by album, it does list the songs in the order they are on the album. Assuming that info is in the ID3 tags of course. Otherwise, it goes alphabetically by song name.
Bluetooth working as well as it always has, if not better, on my 12in PB G4 with 10.2.8... so not sure what you're going on about, chum.
Actually, Christophe left because he was a whiny crybaby. His leaving, in a huff, with no plan or care about how Fink would go forward, may be the best thing that ever HAPPENED to Fink. I'll, probably justifiably, get modded down for this, but I think it's about time someone said it, so I'll take the risk.
That aside, everything said above about OpenOSX's theft is 100% true, and I'll not be supporting them anytime soon, and really, neither should you.
Though, on further look, that does require me to be on unstable, and I don't know why testing has to be so incredibly far behind (2.2!)
Consider me corrected, and thanks for the info. When I set up Testing (not long ago at all), it was not nearly up-to-date. I found an unofficial source for newer KDE, and just assumed that the mains were still lagging badly. Well, you know what they say... (and, hey! first accepted submission! go me!)
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Oh, it's even more pointless than that. All the happy GUI stuff isn't part of Darwin anyway.
On x86 it just becomes a less mature BSD.
I'm a huge fan of Apple, Mac (not all in caps, notice) OS X and the whole Darwin concept and functionality, but my in-process-of-building server will be running Debian Linux or FreeBSD. There's just no advantage to x86 Darwin.
>> Well, considering the GUI is in the BIOS, I'd think it would be pretty difficult to completely get rid of it. Good Lord. When was the last time THAT was true??
>>Boot into a console (or DOS on a differently-abled system) I think you Mac users are out of luck (yet again), seeing as you can't exit your GUI
We can't?
Really?
I wonder what this strange console-like white text, black background, full screen, no-quartz, tcsh shell I get when I login as ">console" is then.
And to think, just yesterday Macslash was saying the interview would likely never air. (so to speak)
Now, correct me if I am wrong, cause, hey, I probably am, but does this not seem like just one more subtle insult from Apple to Microsoft? Well-deserved, I might add, but why all these recent jabs?
The switch ads are the obvious, but I find this, and the fact that MS's recent fake switch ad made it to Apple's Hot News page quite interesting from a company that publically expressed all is well between them and MS.
Besides, When you're trying to convince MS users that they can use Mac versions of programs they are used to, why point out serious flaws in one of the biggies??
Unless, of course... you have something better you're planning to push.... (Which I'm not saying must be the oft-rumored iBrowse. Could just be Mozilla)
'twas a joke, jeez. I was trying to MAKE FUN of the wintel trolls who say stupid stuff like that in every Apple discussion.
(sigh)
Yeah, but with only one mouse button... how useful can gestures on a Mac BE?
;-) ))
((Figured I'd get it out of the way before the Mac-bashers got here
Okay, not to talk trash about NASA, as I'm a huge supporter of the agency and the space program in general.... but luring a big-ass rock closer to the orbit of the Earth just strikes me as a REALLY BAD IDEA. Remember when that asteroid was en route to that planet where Kirk thought he was Kirok? And that was a danger WITH tractor beam technology.
I live in Jersey, and easily manage to watch 10-12 movies a month through netflix. If I send it off on a mon, I usually have a replacement by sat, sometimes as soon as fri, worst case by mon, and that's mine getting there and them sending a new one here. And with three, that means I get a new one every few days. Word.
... the world's best mp3 player works beautifully with the world's best* unix. Does that help?
(* YMMV. Any *nix is fine in my book. I just stick by my preference as the best for me. )
The issue with RMS' extreme pro-open source position is that, as an extreme position, it is easy to demonize and ignore, taking the more moderate, and reasonable, positions with it. Does he have the best of intentions? at times. But the harm done to the Open Source Community by his foolish guidelines and the juvenile Linux v. GNU/Linux debate is at least as strong.
And add some new ones, too. It's a give and take. Apple's been very good at responding to user feedback, i think. One need only compare 10.1 to the Public Beta to see that.
but the 'what-ifs' are irrelevant. The fact is that they are hyping the *nix aspect, they are giving back to the upstream, and they are suddenly the biggest and most profile Unix vendor in the world
whatever theories you may have, and they may or may not be right, that doesn;t change the fact that that is not how it has happened. Shouldn't we praise them for what they are doing, instead of condemn them for what they might have done but didn't?
Not sure what you mean by this. The icon areas do indeed reach the edges. Early versions did not have infinite depth, but since 10.0 they have.
This can easily be turned off however. Personally, I like it, though it took me a non-trivial amount of time to get used to it.
Point taken.
For the sake of simplicity though, I like the way they have it. Apple help covers Apple's GUI methods. If you want to deal with the UNIX stuff, simply pull up a terminal or log in as console and 'man terminal'. Hell, if you know what vi is, you know man.
I'm insufficiently familiar with NeXTStep to answer this, but if you mean having both arrows on each end, 10.1 adds this option. If that's not what you mean, I can't reply.
(assuming not=now) Again, personal preference. You do have xfree86 options, as you said, though I realize you can't use that GUI on your X apps