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Robot Family in Every Home?

cswilly writes: "Yahoo has a story that Sony wants to see a robot animal in every home. I was wondering if Sony has a total cost of ownership argument for these things? Let's see, $2500 for a robot dog + $100 in electricity oven ten years. A real dog costs, say $1/day to feed, lives ten years for $3650 on food, plus $1000 in vet bills. The robot wins hands down." But keeping it in Mom's Robot Oil isn't cheap either...

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  1. Robot family by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Troll
    Robot family?

    Most families are already like robot families. White, protestant, republican-voting, heterosexual people with 2.5 kids, SUV and a house in suburbia who also go to church every Sunday - not because they believe but because it's expected.

  2. I'd want that, too by jcwren · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I sold flower pots, I'd want one in every home. Preferrably 10. That's a stupid statement on Sony's part, really. Anyone who sells anything wants lots of them everywhere. It's called "selling product to make money". Sheeh.

    --jcwren

  3. TCO argument flawed by psych031337 · · Score: 5, Funny

    A sufficiently sized and well-trained dog is able come up with it's own food if you live in a neighborhood sporting enough cats.

    OTOH, the Sony petdogs probably have a setting to disable barking at night.

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    +++ath0
    1. Re:TCO argument flawed by imipak · · Score: 4, Funny
      I have an old Onion InfoGraphic on my wall here - I had to have it there, for when my Aibo-owning sucker^w^w techno-obsessive friend comes round - "Why is Aibo so goddam popular?" I'd link but there's no URL on it and I can't find it at t'Onion...
      • Keeps all those goddam robot cats out of the yard
      • Crude, mechanical simulations of love and affection prepare children for the adult world
      • Marks territory with streams of caustic battery acid
      • Hoping to teach it to say "Rastro"
      • Doesn't vomit batteries back up like real dog
      • No need to drown it in brick-filled sack to shut it up
      • Hoping to train it to tuck in baby from airport videophone
      • Kids kept nagging for a cold, metallic object to hug
      • Won't bite the faces off children unless specifically programmed to
  4. Each Robot Family may have Free AI Minds by Mentifex · · Score: 4, Informative

    Free artificial Minds for robots are now available from http://mind.sourceforge.net in both MSIE JavaScript (for learning about AI) and in Win32Forth (for implementation in robots). Some tweaking or porting to new languages may be required. Ports have already been launched for Visual Basic and Java.

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/mind/ is just one of well over three hundred (300) Open Source AI projects on SourceForge, and the AI "Mind" project is unusual in that it is based on awell-developed and highly original linguistic Theory of Mind (see SourceForge/ Mind/ Docs/ Theory of Mind) drawing upon Chomskyan linguistics and the neuronal feature-extraction for which Hubel and Wiesel won their Nobel prize.

    Onwards to http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~phoenix/vinge/vinge-s ing.html -- Technological Singularity!

  5. Re:Real dogs... by Leven+Valera · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not that I break into many houses, but if the house I burglar has a robot dog, it's not going to scare me off. I'd take it.

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    Woot w00t w007.
  6. Re:Life Expectancy? by jandrese · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you ever had a real dog (or cat?) They certainly aren't "operational" all day long unless the Aibo has a "sleep and ignore my master" mode. :)

    This is doubly true for cats. In fact the AI for a robotic cat should be pretty easy to write:
    while true
    do
    sleep
    sleep
    sleep
    eat
    sleep
    sleep
    sleep
    random
    done

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    I read the internet for the articles.
  7. Two errors by tmark · · Score: 4, Informative

    $2500 for a robot dog + $100 in electricity oven ten years. A real dog costs, say $1/day to feed, lives ten years for $3650 on food, plus $1000 in vet bills. The robot wins hands down."

    Firstly, a dog does not cost $1/day to feed. A medium sized dog would probably cost 25-50 cents at most to feed if you were feeding it dry food.

    More importantly, however, since the majority of the costs you attribute to the real dog occur in the future (some of it in the far future) you have to discount those dollars spent in the future to today. For those of you who flunked economics, this means that the value of $100 in 1 year is less than the value of $100 today, the value of $100 2 years from now is less than the value of $100 in 1 year, etc and the decline of value of moneys to be paid/received in the future is exponential. I don't have a calculator handy but you will find that the cost of ownership of a real dog (assuming the already unrealistic cost structure as explained above) is far less than the $4650 you came up with.

    Whereas with the Sony dog, almost all the costs of the dog are up front so the present value/cost of the Sony dog is very close to its $2500 sticker price.