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New Themes.org Almost Ready; Needs A Little Help

Daelin writes: "Themes.org is almost ready to re-open! They need people to write submission guidelines and then maintain the item queue for item types that people want covered, however. This is a chance for some people to help out a hub which connects several different communities."

170 comments

  1. Themes.org by mlrtime · · Score: 0, Troll

    Can't wait to try out my new windoze lookalike desktop.

    1. Re:Themes.org by ThatComputerGuy · · Score: 1

      I can't wait to see if there will be many KDE2 themes around. The lack of them really sucks. If it weren't for the mosfet liquid rendering thing, I wouldn't be so pleased with KDE2's look.

      --
      XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
    2. Re:Themes.org by hattig · · Score: 2

      I really must get around to installing KDE 2.2 so I can run that theme. Maybe I will have to wait for 2.2.1 just to get the latest version.

      And I need XFree86 4.1 for work because of the crappy ATI graphics chip that doesn't do anti-aliasing in 4.0.3...

      Have to go into work today anyway, so if I get the time I will try and attack ports and try and get them both to compile and install.

      Oh yeah, on topic anyway - I hope that the new themes.org can rate themes based upon speed, looks and functionality. Also, I might just want to have native (coded) themes shown, not the slower pixmap themes.

      Urgh, I bet it will have an XP theme database as well... nasty stuff, that horrible plastic tonka-toy interface that XP defaults to...

      Anyway, MacOSX was meant to be themeable - are there any themes for it apart from Aqua and Platinum?

    3. Re:Themes.org by cymen · · Score: 1
      I just compiled the mosfet theme w/ kde 2.2 and the style and color choice aren't showing up in the control center :(... Plain jane debian unstable install. Any tricks to get it going?


      And to stay on topic also - perhaps this mosfet theme will end up on themes.org soon :). Can't wait to browse an up to date KDE2 section on themes.org,

  2. Themes.org by sagacious_gnostic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This really is a great site.

    Over the last few months while they've been "static" I must admit that, on occasion, i've been annoyed at nothing seemingly happening.

    Knowing (personally) some of the maintainers at irc.themes.org and that they're probably as annoyed as I was helped me look at things in a different perspective though.

    These guys work hard and deserve every praise they get, and no critisism (critique is ok)... they don't get paid for this remember. I know at least one person responsible at irc.themes.org was considering resigning from his position because of lack of progress... just glad he didn't. I'm just glad that things _are_ happening. Kudos to the themes.org team.

  3. Collaboration At Its Best by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Themes.Org has to be one of the best examples to hand out to Linux newbies of the platform's advantages at its best. So many people with varying skill levels contributing their time and efforts to let people pick from hundreds of desktop configurations and appearances.
    Just think about it.

    Each Windowing environment has programmers writing open spec API's to allow people to customize the desktop.

    Then the people who write the software to create and install the Themes. Not to mention graphics editing software and sound editing software.

    Gui, Graphics and sound icon designers working on theme components.

    Individuals and teams putting the peieces together to create hundreds of themes with a consistant look and feel.

    All the user has to do if he/she wants to completely change the look of their desktop or make the computer an extension of their own personality is go to Themes.Org and click the download button.

    Awesome. Nothing comparable comes to mind.

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    "God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
    1. Re:Collaboration At Its Best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *WHACK*

      That was a clue stick.

      If you have to add more garbage to your post te get around the filers, maybe it *should* be filterred out.

    2. Re:Collaboration At Its Best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have to add more garbage to your post te get around the filers, maybe it *should* be filterred out.

      *WHACK*

      That was a clue stick.

      Learn to spell, fuckwit.

  4. Poll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    check out the poll on alpha.themes.org

    its interesting to see which people vote for....

  5. I'm sure... by jawad · · Score: 1

    I'm sure they needed a lil' slashdotting to test their server too, right? Have some compassion!

  6. Re:hey by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    limewire

  7. Help? I dont think so. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0



    1) Given the horror stories that have cropped up over the past year and a half regarding how VA treats its volunteers, people would be crazy to help this particular project.

    2) The whole idea of "volunteering" for a company thats out to make a profit off your work is beyond common sense anyway.

    My $0.02,
    Rand

  8. I've got a theme by Inthewire · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've had the same theme for years...black background, white text.
    Before that it was black background, orange text.
    Long time ago it was green background, whitish green text.
    And my first real theme was white background, blue lines, grey text.

    --


    Writers imply. Readers infer.
  9. one of the great examples of oss community by erik_fredricks · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I've been frequenting the site for ages, and in fact, a theme I found there became my impetus for switching to WindowMaker and never looking back. The old site was a great resource, a novel but ridiculously useful idea, and for me, it became one heck of a time-sink and full-time hobby. Nothing this valuable exists for the commercial OS'es, and I wouldn't be surprised if it converted a bunch of folks to Linux/BSD.

    Here's wishing everyone the best of luck. BTW, I like the new "peachy" color scheme:-)

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    THE GOOD HUMOR MAN CAN ONLY BE PUSHED SO FAR
    Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 2F18

  10. Uhhh... what about Linux distros? by Ghoser777 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't know about #1, but I got to disagree with you on #2.

    Most of the work opensource developers will put in will directly influence whether or not the companies that produce linux distros will make a profit. If linux sucks and doesn't improve, then they don't make money. If it rocks and it's getting better, then these companies will make more money (because more people will buy their distro + tech support).

    People volunteer for companies that are out to make profits all the time. If I volunteer, it's not because it's for a non-profit cause, but that it's for a good cause.

    F-bacher

    --
    James Tiberius Kirk: "Spock, the women on your planet are logical. No other planet in the galaxy can make that claim."
  11. Re: Customization in the work place by Inthewire · · Score: 1

    Who's the shithead that modded this down? Assuming AWG ain't low on Karma, of course.
    Seriously, though...people that fuck around with the desktop make life painful when they call asking for tech support. More so since I'm not in tech support.
    I understand that we all have to be so damn unique, but developers should understand the purpose of standards.
    And don't Linux dorks hate cruft? Someone please explain how themes are essential to the computing environment.

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    Writers imply. Readers infer.
  12. Re:Customization in the work place by Ghoser777 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And it's even worse when you're trying to help them fix a problem with their computer.

    "Okay, now go to the StartMenu and select Run"

    "The what menu"

    "You know, the menu in the bottom left that says 'Start'"

    "I don't have one of those"

    "why not?"

    "It got in the way, so I deleted it"

    "Then how do you get to your programs?"

    "You mean my porn?"

    "Uhmm... yes"

    "I don't know, that's why I was calling you"

    "Do you have an icon called 'My computer' on your desktop"

    "No"

    "Do you have a desktop?"

    "Yes, I have my laptop on it right now"

    "No, on your computer."

    "Why would I put my desktop ontop of my computer"

    "[insert long description of what the desktop metaphor is]"

    "Oh... I don't think I have one of those."

    "Why not?"

    "I figured if I got rid of this thing you call the 'desktop,' then I'd have more room for porn."

    "[hand to forehead]"

    F-bacher

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    James Tiberius Kirk: "Spock, the women on your planet are logical. No other planet in the galaxy can make that claim."
  13. Problem with Themes.org by IvyMike · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem with themes.org is that it is TOO good. Why should that be a problem? It's so good that nobody else is even trying; there's no point. Unfortunately, this makes it a single point of failure (I noticed this when attempting to find mozilla themes; when themes.org was down, it was tough to find anything worth downloading.)

    Ok, so that's not a REAL problem, but I have been doing a lot more thinking about redundancy this week. Other people have mentioned this 'problem' about sourceforge, too. We need to make sure that there's not a single point of failure, and that these great sites and the themes/projects are kept going and accessible no matter what bizarre circumstances might happen.

    1. Re:Problem with Themes.org by Drone-X · · Score: 2

      SourceForge shouldn't be a single point of failure anymore, the GNU project now has Savannah based on the SourceForge code. As far as I can tell it's open to all Free Software (as oposed to Open Source on SourceForge) projects. Upon registering your project you can even apply for it to become part of the GNU project ;).

    2. Re:Problem with Themes.org by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

      I was actually thinking about if a themes-centric magazine (print w/CD) would do well these days. Basically, a magizine with interviews, how-to's, etc, covering a broad spectrum of Window Managers (not to mention skins coverage on other platforms). On the CD would be, say, a snapshot of some online themes/skin repository (maybe work with skinz.org and themes.org).

      I dunno if the market would be good enough for just that or if you'd also have to add stuff like demoscene's, graphic arts in general, etc. Not that I would mind that. :)

      --
      If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
  14. Co-op sites by BrookHarty · · Score: 2

    Allot of the most popular sites are ran by the target audience. Slashdot gets its content from user submissions, the moderation is done by the users, the posts are the largest part of slashdot.

    Some of my favorite sites are all user driver, blues news, betanews, slashdot, planetsites, freshmeat, themes, infoanarchy, kuro5hin, netctarine and tribalwar. And most of the news sites I read get their submissions and comments from users.

    The only problem I had when Themes went down, its about the only place I know for icewm themes and theme screenshots.

  15. Re: Customization in the work place by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 0

    If I had one thing I could take away, it would be the ability to change the cursor. How did something so heinous evolve from the need to put trails on your mouse for your laptop? Look, it's an arrow. Now it's a castle. Now it's a racecar! Vroom Vroom!

    Maybe that's why mice remind me of the ball and chain of yore. Here's a sound for you, Whoosh, Whoosh, Whoosh, SMACK!

    Angry White Guy

    --
    You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
  16. old site better? by Suppafly · · Score: 1

    am i the only one that thinks the layout and color of the old site look better than the one at alpha.themes.org?

    themes.org is cool.. i've been getting stuff from them even though they are officially not open or whatever, but it just seems to me the other site design worked better and was easier on the eyes..

  17. count me in by JustinMWard · · Score: 1

    count me in for helpign thsee guys out. once i sober up a bit.

    alright. for those w/o a sense of humor. my point is, even a drunk oss fan is an oss fan, and wants to help progess htings.

  18. themes.org alpha site by lqx · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://alpha.themes.org

    wasn't that hard to find was it? :)

    1. Re:themes.org alpha site by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1
      Not hard, considering they POST it in the announcement that's linked to in the Slashdot story. They even provide a nice little link.


      Granted, reading isn't a primary skill for some. And others just aren't familiar with URLs or the whole "this is a link, and you can click on it" concept.

  19. Collection of icons by Ed+Avis · · Score: 2

    Is there a place for collections of icons and bitmaps for use in applications and themes? I couldn't find any sets of icons on themes.org.

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    -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
    1. Re:Collection of icons by Spoing · · Score: 2

      For backgrounds: From the main themes.org page, select Resources (x.themes.org). Even though there are quite a few Linux/Unix/*BSD-specific papers there, any site with a 10's of thousands of backgrounds will work. Personally, I'm a fan of ayo73's brutish, purple, music-themed Tux (www.73lab.com).

      For icons: You're right. There is no one seperate place for most X icons. Themes often do include new icons or an entire set. For simplicity, icon packs would have to be specific to the window manager and/or desktop so that you don't have to set each individual icon. At that point, why not put it in a theme?

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    2. Re:Collection of icons by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of collections of icons (with some kind of descriptions or classification) which could be used in building themes. Not necessarily a matching set, just some icons you might want to use. O'Reilly's Unix Power Tools CD has the Poskanzer Bitmap Collection (lots of black and white icons, suitable for very old-school looking themes) but I haven't found a general collection place for free icons anywhere.

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      -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
    3. Re:Collection of icons by pinkNoise · · Score: 1
      I have been looking for some icon collections recently too, and didn't find anything on themes.org.

      What I was looking for was generic icons, to use for drawers that I like to organize my most frequently used programs in. Not any application or system icons, but more generic, like the apple or tiger icons by Tigert. On windows there are lots of desktop icon collections available through different sources.

      I think it would be great if themes.org or some other site could set up a categorized repository for Free icons.

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      pinkNoise

    4. Re:Collection of icons by MeerCat · · Score: 1

      Try the following sites - some icons are lame, some are not free etc. but there are a load of ideas at least...

      http://www.iconbazaar.com/
      http://www.iconarchive.com/
      http://www.everyicon.com/

      T

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      I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. - George Best
    5. Re:Collection of icons by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the links: of the three only iconarchive.com looks reasonably sane. I'll submit icons to that site. It would still be better to have a big tarball of icons with descriptions (browsing through images doesn't scale as well as grep does) and no strings attached. But maybe there's not a great demand for that since whatever desktop environment you are using (KDE, Windows, whatever) will come with a standard set of icons and you should use those whenever possible.

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      -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
  20. It would be cool if... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is there some way to automatically generate RPMs or dpkgs for window manager themes? Linux distributions could include a few hundred popular themes and a way to switch between them: that might get more new users addicted to the whole theming and eyecandy thing. Hmm, maybe not such a good idea ;-).

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    -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
    1. Re:It would be cool if... by redhog · · Score: 2

      Not automatically, but very easy. Prolly, you should be able to make a template .spec-file (for rpms, I don't know about .deb) for each window-manager/widget-set, and then only change the name/filenameprefixes in it for each theme. You could even make a shellscript which, given the name of the theme, generates it :)

      So, if you know about .deb, or about themeing for different window-managers/widget-set, please contact me via mail, and we could start creating something!

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      --The knowledge that you are an idiot, is what distinguishes you from one.
    2. Re:It would be cool if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are dpkgs?

    3. Re:It would be cool if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He probably meant DEBs, the Debian equivalent of RPMs.

    4. Re:It would be cool if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, not a good idea.

      Themes are something that end users just download by the bucket full and start applying to their machines. Usually, there's nothing wrong with that, but you wouldn't want them to install their themes as root.... Then it becomes a much worse security problem.

    5. Re:It would be cool if... by Ed+Avis · · Score: 1

      Can you elaborate on how installing themes is a security problem? Why is it different to installing any other software as root?

      I was thinking that a good supply of themes could be included as part of your distribution, that would reduce the need to download stuff.

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      -- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
  21. IBM Announces KDE Theme Contest Winners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    IBM developerWorks has announced the winners of the KDE theme contest.

    Entries were judged on the following criteria:

    • Use of individual desktop elements including window appearance, color schemes, fonts, and background
    • Usability, stability, and navigability
    • Continuity, or how well the theme flows through all of the affected elements to present a unified appearance
    • General aesthetics: the judges' overall impression of the theme
    1. Re:IBM Announces KDE Theme Contest Winners by iceburn · · Score: 1

      Dear God! Those are some terrible themes! The grand prize winner is one of the ugliest themes I have ever seen. Jeez, what an ugly shade of green, and the wallpaper is just cheesy. I'm gonna be sick. Seriously, though, there mustn't have been very many entries if those are the ones they picked.

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      A sphincter says what?
    2. Re:IBM Announces KDE Theme Contest Winners by catch23 · · Score: 1

      Wow those themes that won look pretty dull. Especially the third prize winner. Seems like I coulda done that in 30 minutes max. A little gradient in the back with colored buttons and some super simple textures? Even the first prize winner didn't have anything interesting to look at.

  22. Simple explanation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You see, many linux geeks are terribly overweight. Installing the winner theme makes them throw up all the time, so the reach normal weight in a few months. This is much better than any weight watchers stuff and - most important - it works.
    So, the winner theme is a so called "health theme" or "digital bulemia". IBM doesn't only bring you good computers, they also keep you in shape.

  23. themes.org alpha site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    http://alpha.themes.org

    wasn't that hard to find was it? :)

  24. Re:Customization in the work place by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
    I realize this is humor, but why would you sit on a phone call with them? In the age of internet connectivity being omnipresent, it makes much more sense that service would occur directly, through telnet or shared X sessions. When it becomes a serious issue to provide support to computer newbies (as opposed to linux newbies), distros will provide for this capability.

    We can only hope that it will be adequatly explained to the user that allowing open access is a Bad Thing.

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    Evan

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    "$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
  25. sound by dalinian · · Score: 1

    It's a bit curious that you mention sound. The content in themes.org is very graphics-centric. Lately I've been thinking why it is so.

    Maybe the problem is software. Sure there are lots of GNU/Linux audio software, but none of it has really reached the same level of sophistication and integration as Gimp.

    1. Re:sound by N8F8 · · Score: 2

      It may have somthing to do with the relatively recent advancments in audio compression technologies. Unlike graphic formats, where you can simply look at your intended use and easilty find a well established format, audio technologies are in the throws of a massive series of technological advancements. Solidifying on any one or two formats may be troublesome.

      Is there a project equivalent to XFree86 for audio? Like you mentioned I see plenty of audio widgets, but little to make me believe there are well defined standards.

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      "God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
    2. Re:sound by dalinian · · Score: 1

      There's no Xfree for audio, but there is GNOME for audio (Esound), and then there is KDE for audio (Arts or aRts or something like that). There are probably smaller players on that field as well.

      The driver system is another thing. Linux has one set of drivers, ALSA has one, and maybe all the BSD systems all have too.

      I think you have made an excellent point; there really is no common base for audio like what Xfree is for graphics.

  26. What they really need... by mlknowle · · Score: 2, Funny

    What they really need are volunteer lawyers; to defend them from the likes of Apple, MS, and everyone else who claims to 'own' themes...

  27. Re:Customization in the work place by Angry+White+Guy · · Score: 0

    I won't let anyone have an open telnet to my box, and neither should they

    Angry White Guy

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    You think that I'm crazy, you should see this guy!
  28. Wher to get themes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess people didnt stop making themes just
    because themes.org where down... anyone know som
    other sites, especially looking for kde2 themes.

  29. Re:Customization in the work place by JabberWokky · · Score: 2
    I won't let anyone have an open telnet to my box, and neither should they

    Does that mean that if you run colo'd servers, you can't connect to them in any way? Of course, by "the distros will have to supply a system", I mean some sort of ssh style layer of encryption, many warnings, and the user telling a support tech their password over the phone.

    I would imagine that that is much less dangerous than the current system of blindly telling someone with low mousing skills to go muck about in their control panel or registry.

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    Evan

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    "$30 for the One True Ring. $10 each additional ring!" -- JRR "Bob" Tolkien
  30. Blackbox Theme Guidlines? by Forrestina · · Score: 1
    as soon as there are some blackbox theme guidlines i've got a whole bunch of them i'd love to submit.


    and running a submission que would be fun, mine would always get in ;)


    blackbox themes & screenshots

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    at least i can fucking think"
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  31. Themes.org was better 2 years ago what happened by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Themes.org was better 2 years ago what happened. Also miss the adult themes.

  32. Beautiful Artwork by N8F8 · · Score: 1

    Your art is great. I just grabbed a few for my desktop. What design software do you use?

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    "God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon, Marshal of France - speaking truth to power
    1. Re:Beautiful Artwork by dalinian · · Score: 1

      Gimp and POV-Ray.

      But wait for the new themes.org - it's going to rule.

  33. http://www.google.com/search?q=css by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.google.com/search?q=css

    sans-serif fonts and no colors on a themes site. idiots.

  34. hmm by xted · · Score: 1

    Most of these creators of the themes.org come off as rude and having an elitist attitude. The times ive been on irc.openprojects.net, ive been disgusted at how people are treated that dont "belong" to certain channels. This is the kind of thing that happens in irc servers all over the place, but it should not be happening on openprojects.net. The problem with it is, osdn is run by these same people. Its not a matter of "just leave the channel if you dont like how you are treated", because it goes further than that. It reaches into responses to comments and emails. These people do an excellent job maintaining osdn, but they need to learn how to deal with people. Being a "computer geek" (call it what you will) is no excuse for being an asshole.

  35. Re:PLEASE READ, I am 9 year old girl. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok ok mao it is then! does my jizzum qualify as a special birthday gifft? ill give it to u in ur mouth pussy or ass wherver u want!! u like it on your boobies? face? in ur hair? all over ur body? sweet!!

    -- j'raxis 271045

  36. Re:Customization in the work place by dickens · · Score: 1

    I had PC Anywhere installed on all the Execs' machines at my last job. If they ran in trouble, often while at another site, I'd have them start it in "host" mode. Then I could dial or VPN in and see what they're seeing within a minute or two.

    It was a lifesaver. They were usually impressed too.