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Stallman: Thousands Dead, Millions Deprived of Liberties

Hobart noted that Richard Stallman has written a very well said piece on the civil liberties that we will no doubt be deprived of following the recent terrorist attacks on the US. I know RMS takes a lot of heat for being out there sometimes, but this is a really well said bit and worth a read. Thousands dead, millions deprived of civil liberties? By Richard Stallman

The worst damage from many nerve injuries is secondary -- it happens in the hours after the initial trauma, as the body's reaction to the damage kills more nerve cells. Researchers are beginning to discover ways to prevent this secondary damage and reduce the eventual harm.

If we are not careful, the deadly attacks on New York and Washington will lead to far worse secondary damage, if the U.S. Congress adopts "preventive measures" that take away the freedom that America stands for.

I'm not talking about searches at airports here. Searches of people or baggage for weapons, as long as they check only for weapons and keep no records about you if you have no weapons, are just an inconvenience; they do not endanger civil liberties. What I am worried about is massive surveillance of all aspects of life: of our phone calls, of our email, and of our physical movements.

These measures are likely to be recommended regardless of whether they would be effective for their stated purpose. An executive of a company developing face recognition software is said to be telling reporters that widespread deployment of face-recognizing computerized cameras would have prevented the attacks. The September 15 New York Times cites a congressman who is advocating this "solution." Given that the human face recognition performed by the check-in agents did not keep the hijackers out, there is no reason to think that computer face recognition would help. But that won't stop the agencies that have always wanted to do more surveillance from pushing this plan now, and many other plans like it. To stop them will require public opposition.

Even more ominously, a proposal to require government back doors in encryption software has already appeared.

Meanwhile, Congress hurried to pass a resolution giving Bush unlimited power to use military force in retaliation for the attacks. Retaliation may be justified, if the perpetrators can be identified and carefully targeted, but Congress has a duty to scrutinize specific measures as they are proposed. Handing the president carte blanche in a moment of anger is exactly the mistake that led the United States into the Vietnam War.

Please let your elected representatives, and your unelected president, know that you don't want your civil liberties to become the terrorists' next victim. Don't wait -- the bills are already being written.

Copyright 2001 Richard Stallman

Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article are permitted in any medium provided the copyright notice and this notice are preserved.

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  1. Re:Taking advantage of the situation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    See, it's funny 'cuz a) RLG is clueless about women and b) the only way he relates to anything is as to whether or not they run Linux!

  2. RMS is as bad as the politicians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
    He is using this occasion (just like RMS) to push his own agenda. At least the politicians are trying to do something about terrorism, these libertarian types just want to lay back, so America can keep taking it up the ass.

    really what the fuck does he know about constitutional law? he is just a no nothing geek.

  3. Re:benjamin franklin's opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ben franklin's dead. shut the fuck up and lick my balls.

  4. Jokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    How many New Yorkers does it take to change a light bulb?
    God knows, they keep jumping out the window when it gets too hot

    What's the number one drink served on United Airlines?
    Flaming Manhatten

    What music do they play in the elevator in the WTC?
    Jump and It's Raining Men

    What colour were the pilots eyes?
    Blue. One blew this way the other blew that way

    What team does bin Laden support?
    The New York Jets

    Who are the fastest readers in the world?
    New Yorkers. Some of them go through 110 stories in 5 seconds

    Where do Americans go on vacation?
    All over Manhatten

    I guess that the NYPD and NYFD are indeed New York's finest now -- you could strain them through a sieve!

    How many Americans died in the WTC tuesday?
    Who gives a fuck
    "It's a bird!"
    "It's a plane!"
    "Its.... Oh fuck, it IS a plane!"

    Q: Why didn't Superman stop the planes from hitting the Trade Towers?
    A: Because he's a quadriplegic!

    American Airlines is now offering sight seeing tours of Manhattan!

    Q: Why do tourists flock to New York?
    A: It's a blast

    New York, New York, so good they hit it twice

    If one side of the Pentagon has collapsed, will it now be renamed "The
    Square"?

    It should be renamed "The Penta-gone"

    Famous last words: "Amal, was this tower here yesterday?"

    Today FBI concluded that New York had been hit by a U.F.M
    (unidentify flying muslim)

    NEWSFLASH.... The WTC has been destroyed.... thousands of New York
    executives feared dead.... Hookers all across the city are in mourning.....

    "25,000 sq. ft. Office space for rent. Recently renovated. New Air
    Conditioning unit. Needs TLC. Contact me at One World Trade Centre.
    85th Floor, Room 18."

    Q: What do you call a dust storm?
    A: Trade winds.

    Q: What's the area code of the World Trade Center?
    A: 220 (two to zero).

    Q: What should have tipped off the ticket sellers?
    A: When the terrorists asked if there was anything cheaper than one-way.

    Then there's the retarded terrorist who tried to crash the A-Train into the
    World Trade Center..........

    Yassar Arraffat and many other PLO members together
    with people from other muslim nations are *Volunteering*
    to give blood for the victims of the tragedy...
    I guess they'll have some *Volunteers* to Fly the blood in too!

    Last words from Airline pilot "Right a bit, hey the trade centre, my
    brother works there...lets look just a bit closer...."

    The FBI have arrested the head of advertising at the Empire State Building
    for
    involvement in the WTC disaster. A spokesman said T-shirts with 'Empire
    State: We're back!' were found in his office.

  5. Pardon my attitude but... by packetgeek · · Score: 3, Troll

    This is what I hear:

    piss moan whine Don't take away my freedom

    bitch piss moan You better not use this to take advantage of me

    gripe bitch whine Oh no, the guy I didn't want for President gets war time powers during war time

    What I do not hear:

    Members of congress here is a way to realize Civil Liberties AND the protection of world citizens

    Mr President I wish to help, here are some possible solutions to the problem

    I'm sorry people but if we are only going to bitch about what our government officials do and never give them workable ideas and solutions then shame on us.

    And remember as Abraham Lincoln told us, we have a "government OF the people, BY the people FOR the people"
    that statement requires your active partitcipation not just you criticisms.

    --

    Please be patient, I'm a work in progress! --Alan Jackson
  6. Re:I'm ashamed to say it, but I agree with RMS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Let's not forget this topical quote:
    "I am a goatfucker!"
    -- Richard M Stallman

  7. damn niggers by ArchieBunker · · Score: -1, Troll

    1. the rodney king tapes never showed how he struggled and ran from the police and the chase.

    2. oj is guilty as hell. theres no question.

    3. mumia nigger whatever his name is shot a cop in broad day light. just because hes respected that makes it ok to kill someone. fry that nigger!

    --
    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
  8. Re:Another Unpopular Position Taken By RMS... by frknfrk · · Score: 1, Troll

    it's all about what you value. as for me, i would gladly trade in being surveiled every moment i am outside my house, having every keystroke logged from both home and work computers, all my phones tapped, all my mail opened and read, for something of value, because those privacies are not things that i personally value. sure, i don't want cameras watching me scratch my ass walking naked from the kitchen back to bed, but i'd even trade that privacy for the right price.

    the point is that these kind of laws do not allow the existance of other points of view - namely, the people who value their privacy more than whatever value is being added (if any) by the erosion of their privacy.

    we have freedom of religion, freedom of press, etc. and of course the 4th amendment protections against searches, etc. but remember that the 4th amendment says 'unreasonable' and that is one of the adjectives which most sways from person to person. it is like 'immoral', because the things which are unreasonable to me may be perfectly okay with you, and other things which might be immoral to you are my everyday habits. what it comes down to is a group of people are going to decide what 'unreasonable' is - and these people are not elected.

    but anyway... like i said. as for me, privacy is not now nor has ever been much of an issue. i don't do anything illegal, and the software i write is open source anyway so people sniffing my wires for my bits doesn't get them anything. i've probably only posted once or twice anonymously. sure, i've said tons of things i'm not proud to have said, but anonymity and privacy are just not very important to me.

    not nearly as important as being able to fly home to see the family and not worry about if my plane is going to be crashed into the Sears tower.

    blah. i'm just tired of seeing all these 'trade your freedoms for security' posts. sure, i support those people's right to keep their privacy, but if they feel that strongly about it they can stop flying or going to any place which requires surveiled citizens with their brain-implanted ID chip. it's like the mark of the beast, eventually you won't be able to buy bread without joining the majority of people who really just want to be able to walk down the street without being shot at.

    -sam

    --
    The REAL sam_at_caveman_dot_org is user ID 13833.
  9. Radical Islamics Love U.S.! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    We give their lives (and deaths) meaning. They are good Muslums who enjoy simple pleasures, like partaking in our strip clubs and alcoholic beverages. They are just sweet, fun-loving guys without a brain in their tiny little heads, kinda like the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Osama. What these boys need to learn first - and I hope they all do soon - is that suicide is most satisfying when performed in private. Even Adolf the Great knew this.

  10. Stallman, Jerk of the Century by speedbump · · Score: 0, Troll
    Please let your elected representatives, and your unelected president...

    The president was elected, dickweed.