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Is A "Well-Rounded" Education a Good One?

hendridm asks: "Universities seem to push being well-rounded, or knowing a little bit about everything but nothing about anything in particular. They attempt to teach courses that could help you succeed in your lifelong career, whatever it might be. It seems to me that it would be better to teach skills that would help us in the first 10 years of employment. As a senior Information Systems major in a state university in the Midwest, I can think of countless examples that support this idea." Of course, a well-rounded education can be a good one, it just depends on your definition of 'rounded'. It doesn't exactly do students a favor by exposing them to the forrest until they have a good grasp of the concept of the "tree", which is hedridm's main point. Do any of you know of curriculums that are good examples of a true well-rounded education?

"In my Finance course, I learn how to balance a corporate stock portfolio, but I have no clue how to start a business or pay my employees.

In my System Analysis & Design course, I spend 3 hours constructing data-flow diagrams, entity-relationship diagrams, and Ghantt charts for programs that take around an hour to code!

In my Management course, my professor discusses techniques for being an effective CEO, but I don't even know how to manage a few subordinates, much less an entire company.

In my MIS course, we learn about client-server technology, but when I ask if my peers have tested their web pages on Macintosh, they reply, "Why would I have to do that?" Most of them don't even think of Linux as an operating system, but more as a hacker's toy. Forget about asking them to make it Mozilla or Lynx compatible. They don't want to waste their time. But the University will make sure it is ADA compliant, since any institution that receives federal funding must require this...

Don't most "big picture" lessons come with experience, through person's journey from entry-level employee to a skilled IT/business professional? Wouldn't it make more sense to teach things that will help students early in their careers, like technical skills and other trade/foundation skills that are often required of entry-level, non-management employees? Does the average entry-level IT person need to make the sort of decisions a CEO or CIO needs to make? Do companies really want me to spend more time diagramming a program than I need to program it in the first place? (What about just documenting the code?) Knowing the big picture is good, but how do you get to that level if you don't have any skills?

My question for Slashdot readers is: Is this really what companies want of today's graduates?"

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  1. I know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Natalie Portman is a well-rounded curriculum.

  2. i win by Jebus_the_spork · · Score: -1, Troll

    i would have won had it not been that stupid 20 seconds rule bullshit that has been forced upon the slashdot community. how is one to troll or flame with such barriers?

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  3. well-rounded is not affordable anymore by perdida · · Score: 0, Troll

    for our culture.

    Consider the fact that most liberal arts grads have to get additional schooling in order to get a professional level job.

    Everybody else in liberal arts is trying to pay off their hefty debt with shit jobs.

    Liberal arts was designed for an independent thinker and learner; it was a training for a common culture, for a workplace where understanding the classics was important in order to gain entry into more rarefied levels of society.

    Today, nobody would invest such a huge amount of money into literature or learning for its own sake. That's why liberal arts programs are suffering all over the country. It's not worth it!
    College is a place where students learn to conform to the expectations of others and, most importantly, get saddled with debt.

    Unattached young people are threatening to nearly every society. So, our society's solution is to force them to get college degrees in order to get a decent job, saddling them with debt to keep them engaged in the main stream of capitalist society.

    The most dangerous students, the ones who went to school for learning instead of career training, tend to come out with a liberal arts degree. They are doubly crippled - they have the same debt every CS major leaves school with, but without the earning power.

    This is fucked up. We need to pay for everyone's education like European countries do, in order to reclaim education's power.

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  6. Re:you can't troll a troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  7. Question for the well educated. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If you were a gay black man, would it be worse to be called a nigger or a faggot?

  8. Re:you can't troll a troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    How is he gay for noting that 1. well rounded is good, and 2. Natalie Portman's figure looks more like a prepubescent boy than a mature woman?

    If ANYONE looks remotely gay, and a pedophile, at that...