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Hackers are 'Terrorists' Under Ashcroft's New Act

Carlos writes "Most computer crimes are considered acts of terrorism under John Ashcroft's proposed 'Anti-Terrorism Act,' according to this story on SecurityFocus. The Act would abolish the statute of limitations for computer crime, retroactively, force convicted hackers to give the government DNA samples for a special federal database, and increase the maximum sentence for computer intrusion to life in prison. Harboring or providing advice to a hacker would be terrorism as well. This is on top of the expanded surveillance powers already reported on. The bill could be passed as early as this week. I feel safer already."

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  1. List of contacts by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Informative


    Judiciary Committee List
    Name, party, state, phone, fax, e-mail.

    James Sensenbrenner, Chair, R-WI, (202) 225-5101,(202) 225-3190,sensen09@mail.house.gov
    Henry Hyde, R-IL, (202) 225-4561, (202) 225-1166.
    John Conyers Jr., D-MI, (202) 225-5126, (202) 225-0072,john.conyers@mail.house.gov
    George Gekas, R-PA, (202) 225-4315, (202) 225-8440, askgeorge@mail.house.gov
    Barney Frank, D-MA, (202) 225-5931, (202) 225-0182
    Howard Coble, R-NC, (202) 225-3065, (202) 225-8611, howard.coble@mail.house.gov
    Howard Berman, D-CA, (202) 225-4695, (202) 225-3196,Howard.Berman@mail.house.gov
    Lamar Smith, R-TX, (202) 225-4236, (202) 225-8628
    Rick Boucher, D-VA, (202) 225-3861, (202) 225-0442,ninthnet@mail.house.gov
    Elton Gallegly, R-CA, (202) 225-5811, (202) 225-1100
    Jerrold Nadler, D-NY, (202) 225-5635, (202) 225-6923, jerrold.nadler@mail.house.gov
    Bob Goodlatte, R-VA, (202) 225-5431, (202) 225-9681,talk2bob@mail.house.gov
    Bobby Scott, D-VA, (202) 225-8351, (202) 225-8354
    Steve Chabot, R-OH, (202) 225-2216, (202) 225-3012
    Mel Watt, D-NC, (202) 225-1510, (202) 225-1512, nc12.public@mail.house.gov
    Bob Barr, R-GA, (202) 225-2931, (202) 225-2944, barr.ga@mail.house.gov
    Zoe Lofgren, D-CA, (202) 225-3072, (202) 225-3336, zoe@lofgren.house.gov
    William Jenkins, R-TN, (202) 225-6356, (202) 225-5714
    Sheila Jackson Lee, D-TX, (202) 225-3816, (202)225-3317, tx18@lee.house.gov
    Christopher Cannon, R-UT, (202) 225-7751, (202)225-5629, cannon.ut03@mail.house.gov
    Maxine Waters, D-CA, (202) 225-2201, (202) 225-7854
    Lindsey Graham, R-SC, (202) 225-5301, (202) 225-3216
    Marty Meehan, D-MA, (202) 225-3411, (202) 226-0771, martin.meehan@mail.house.gov
    Spencer Bachus, R-AL, (202) 225-4921, (202) 225-2082
    William Delahunt, D-MA, (202) 225-3111, (202)225-5658, william.delahunt@mail.house.gov
    John Hostettler, R-IA, (202) 225-4636, (202)225-3284, john.hostettler@mail.house.gov
    Robert Wexler, D-FL, (202) 225-3001, (202) 225-5974
    Mark Green, R-WI, (202) 225-5665, (202) 225-5729, mark.green@mail.house.gov
    Tammy Baldwin, D-W, (202) 225-2906, (202) 225-6942, tammy.baldwin@mail.house.gov
    Ric Keller, R-FL, (202) 225-2176, (202) 225-0999
    Anthony David Weiner, D-NY, (202) 225-6616, (202)226-7253
    Darrell Issa, R-CA, (202) 225-3906, (202) 225-3303
    Adam Schiff, D-CA, (202) 225-4176, (202) 225-5828
    Melissa Hart, R-PA, (202) 225-2565, (202) 226-2274, melissa.hart@mail.house.gov
    Jeff Flake, R-AZ, (202) 225-2635, (202) 226-4386

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  2. So let's do something about it by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 5, Informative
    OK, a lot of people are crying that the sky is falling, that the jack-booted Nazis are at the gates in Washington (both the East Coast one and the West Coast one), that the totalitarian Big Brother is at hand. Is it? Hell, I don't know, but I'd rather not find out. This is still a democracy, folks, that means YOU have power. Even between elections, you have power. Because politicians, whatever else they are interested in (money, power, actually helping people, getting blowjobs from secretaries), are interested first and foremost in one thing: Getting reelected. Make them think that if they pass something asinine and unconstitutional, that there WILL be repercussions. Yes, scare the bejebers out of your congressman/woman and senator.

    It takes TEN letters (dead tree letters, email gets deleted immediately) for a Senatorial office to open an issue. TEN. (According to Illinois Senator Dick Durban.) And regardless of the advertising and commercials that politicians raise huge war chests to fund, on election day it is YOUR VOTE that decides who ends up in DC. (East Coast, you have no say over the West Coast one.)

    I'd like to issue a call to everyone who posted something modded up to 3 or above: Write a letter to your representatives with the same level of intelligence and Interesting/Insightful content. Write it once and send it three times, once to your Congressperson, and once to each Senator. Fax it if you'd prefer. (Snail mail and fax are what they like the most.) Keep it to one page. Reference the Constitution. Refer to yourself with your most impressive title. (Professor, Ph.d, Senior Engineer, Graduate Student, Independent Developer) and as a registered voter. In the name of the Tux do not tell them that you don't vote, even if that's the case (in which case you should be ashamed of yourself). Then when the next election rolls around, ignore the commercials, take an hour to do your own research, and vote for the candidate that did not support revoking the 4th Amendment and violating Ex Post Facto. It works. (See also: Former Senator Alan Dixon)

    For those of you in countries outside of the US, the same applies to you. The Canadian, British, Australian, French, German, etc. governments are all popularly elected as well. (At least the active parts of the British government, anyway.) Politicians are the same everywhere. The same tactics apply. Use them. If you don't, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

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    --GrouchoMarx
    Card-carrying member of the EFF, FSF, and ACLU. Are you?

  3. NOT After Every Hacker by dragons_flight · · Score: 4, Informative
    There are only 4 computer related offenses that would be designated under the ATA as "Federal terrorism offenses". Of these 4, the first deals solely with stealing or communicating classified information. The second requires the hacking be used for monetary or material gain beyond just gaining unauthorized access to the computer (unless access is valued over $5000). The third requires that one intentionally cause damage (exceeding $5000, in most cases) to a protected computer, where "protected computer" means US Government, financial institutions, interstate and foreign commerce and communications. The last involves threatening a computer system for purposes of extortion.

    This list hardly seems to encompass "most computer crimes". For instance merely accessing or stealing non-classified information is not a terrorist act. Nor does it include breaking encryption ala DMCA. Defacing websites is not a terrorist act unless the computer belongs to one of the above categories and changing the website results in nontrivial financial losses. Writing viruses/worms is not a terrorist act unless you intentionally use it in a way that damages "protected" computers. (From the wording, I wouldn't interpret this to include merely releasing it into the wild, but a judicial ruling would have to clarify that issue). The crimes they are signaling out are pretty significant stuff and not just any old act of hacking. Let's not further contribute to the FUD.


    What follows are excerpts of the laws in question:

    From The Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001 (Draft 2)
    http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/20010919_a ta_bill.html

    Sec. 309: "...the term 'Federal terrorism offense' means a violation of, or an attempt or conspiracy to violate...1030(a)(1), (a)(4), (a)(5)(A), or (a)(7) (relating to protection of computers)..."

    From US Code Title 18, Section 1030
    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1030.html

    (a)(1) having knowingly accessed a computer without authorization or exceeding authorized access, and by means of such conduct having obtained information that has been determined by the United States Government pursuant to an Executive order or statute to require protection against unauthorized disclosure for reasons of national defense or foreign relations, or any restricted data, as defined in paragraph y. of section 11 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, with reason to believe that such information so obtained could be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation willfully communicates, delivers, transmits, or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it;

    (a)(4) knowingly and with intent to defraud, accesses a protected computer without authorization, or exceeds authorized access, and by means of such conduct furthers the intended fraud and obtains anything of value, unless the object of the fraud and the thing obtained consists only of the use of the computer and the value of such use is not more than $5,000 in any 1-year period;

    (a)(5)(A) knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer;

    (a)(7) with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, educational institution, financial institution, government entity, or other legal entity, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to cause damage to a protected computer; shall be punished as provided in subsection (c) of this section

    Under the same Section, part (d)(e)(2) and (8): (2) the term "protected computer" means a computer -
    • (A) exclusively for the use of a financial institution or the United States Government, or, in the case of a computer not exclusively for such use, used by or for a financial institution or the United States Government and the conduct constituting the offense affects that use by or for the financial institution or the Government; or
    • (B) which is used in interstate or foreign commerce or communication;
    (8) the term "damage" means any impairment to the integrity or availability of data, a program, a system, or information, that -
    • (A) causes loss aggregating at least $5,000 in value during any 1-year period to one or more individuals;
    • (B) modifies or impairs, or potentially modifies or impairs, the medical examination, diagnosis, treatment, or care of one or more individuals;
    • (C) causes physical injury to any person; or
    • (D) threatens public health or safety;
  4. CFAA Applies TO EVERY COMPUTER by werdna · · Score: 4, Informative

    Indeed, only crackers who attack "protected systems" (meaning .gov and .mil boxen - not the d00d who hax0rz the average web site) appear to be in line to get their asses handed to them on a silver platter under this Act, and those provisions I can support. (Hell, those are about the only provisions I'd support ;-)

    You are so wrong you can't believe it. The CFAA defines a "protected computer" to mean a computer that is used in interstate commerce. This means any computer connected to the internet or a modem.

    I have litigated CFAA civil actions, and I am here to tell you that virtually ANY unauthorized access where virtually ANY valuable information is received, or where ANY valuable data is modified or changed is quite arguably sufficient to lay down a prima facie case.

    This bill is as bad as you first thought it was.