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Napster Clawing Back

D Anderson n'Swaart writes: "As the BBC reports in this article, Napster is set to return shortly, as a subscription-based sharing service, a concept facing a less-than-rosy future. The report gives a brief history of Napster, and the current state of the various lawsuits that were brought against it. The briefs: Napster is going to have to fork over a total of around $36M USD, $10M of which is downpayment on future royalties." And whatAnotherAolUser writes that the company "agreed to pay $26 million to settle a copyright lawsuit with songwriters and music publishers, and to make royalty payments to the writers and publishers once it started a fee-based service." Guess it depends where you start counting.

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  1. Re:How is it going to be profitable? by Sir_Real · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Option b could be the only possible money maker for them. Any unique content found on Napster will cease being unique to Napster moments after it's published. C. is right out, since it's difficult to shut down everyone's computer... I can't think of any kind of value-added service that they could apply to their content to make me want to pay, aside from better indexing, organization, and cross referencing (a la audio galaxy).

    They're screwed.

  2. My $0.02 by Wind_Walker · · Score: 5, Insightful
    We hear the argument "pay the musician directly" a lot around here, but there is an obvious problem with that: Nobody would buy, copy, or download a single Briney Spears song if the record label did not

    1: Hire studio rats to program the synth-pop music she sings over.
    2: Hire a producer and recording engineer team able to make a child singer sound "sexy"
    3: Produce expensive videos that wave Ms. Spears's two most obvious selling points in front of the camera.
    4: Get it played on the radio (in this case, her records come from Disney, who is a top-5 player in almost every radio market)

    To suggest that Ms. Spears is somehow entitled to 100% (or even more than a small percentage) of the revenue generated by her "art" is to ignore who is doing all the work.

    The answer is obvious: Ignore major label music entirely. Turn off the radio, stop watching MTV, and allow yourself to lose touch with popular culture. (People are supposed to do that when they start growing up, anyway.)

    The truth is, it has already started happening. Concert attendance has been plumetting over the last 10 years, because nobody seriously thinks any band really matters anymore. The biggest draws are leftover bands from the era when people actually cared (like U2). It seems to me that most people no longer consider their favorite music to be an integral part of their identity the way they did in the past. While the latest release from Weezer might be mildly entertaining, nobody is going to worship them the way throngs of stoners once went apeshit over Led Zeppelin; nobody is going to follow them from city to city the way caravans followed the Grateful Dead. Rock n Roll has become a dead religion.

    This year, I heard that a band called "Destiny's Child" won a bunch of awards. From the TV blub, they look kind of cute, and seem to be a band that sings shopworn 3-part harmonies over shopworn hip-hop beats. At the time, it occurred to me that I have not heard more than a 20-second blip from any of their songs. So tell me, fellow Slashbots, am I really missing anything by ignoring these teen divas and listening to Bethoven's 7th Symphony during my drive home?

  3. Here's the conundrum... by BIGJIMSLATE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...I'd pay for something like Napster. Really.

    Problem is, others don't seem like they will. Napster, as well as any P2P software is completely dependant on the people who USE and SHARE the stuff. So, I'd be hesitant to sign up until I knew there were plenty of people who were already subscribed (and dial-up'ers don't count). I'm sure others are thinking the same thing, they don't want to pay for a service that only 200 people would use, but they're not willing to sign up until there are more people. So Napster doesn't get people to sign up because...people havn't signed up. Kinda makes it hard for them to get back on their feet, but that's the reality of it.

    So...if enough people get the ball rolling, then this could be good for them. If not...then who knows.

    Now, here's my question. If you are PAYING Napster to use their software, and they are PAYING the RIAA royalties, does this finally make it "legal" in their eyes? Can a college/isp/company/etc fire/kick off/expell someone for downloading MP3's anymore if they're doing it through this system? Are ISP's still going to monitor my usage to see if I've downloaded any MP3's (I just hate that people label an audio codec automatically as something illegal, instead of its possibly content), and send me one of those warnings?

  4. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nobody cares about Napster. The only thing anyone cares about is what Napster can do for them. Some of us cared about Napster because it allowed us to quickly and easily download music *before* addressing concerns of money or morality. Some of us cared about Napster because (before they aborted the lawsuit and "settled") we thought Napster would be an excellent test case in establishing that providing tools and directory services that can be used for intellectual property theft is totally, totally legal unless you yourself are directly stealing intellectual property. Neither of those things apply anymore to Napster.

    Therefore, nobody cares. In order to get on the new napster, you'll have to download a totally new client; it's about as much trouble to do that as it is to download Morpheus.

    If someone comes out with a service that contains the entire RIAA catalog, and i can pay an hourly fee and get whatever music i want at a high quality (not random lofi Xing rips like you got on the old napster), i'll be interested. Napster probably isn't providing that. Napster is definitely not providing what they used to provide. Napster has no place in our hearts and we feel no sense of obligation to them, as from day one they have acted as nothing but shifty opportunists, and the service and file sharing app they intially provided was something that could be written by almost anybody with a modicrum of understanding of the MFCs and TCP sockets.

    So napster's not dead yet. Neither is 3D0. OK. So what?

  5. If I'm going to pay for it... by coldmist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I'm going to pay for it (which I would), I want guaranteed quality of both audio encoding (ie 128K encoding from CD source, not 64K FM radio junk) and bandwidth.

    I am not going to pay for a service that still depends on the user's providing questionable files over 56k modems or even cable modems/ADSL.

    So, what Napster would have to do is have a master .mp3 list that you could choose and download, from their server, from verified mp3 files.

    Now that's a service that I would pay for.

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