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Study Finds Low Use Of Steganography On Internet

schnippy writes: "New Scientist reports on new study from the University of Michigan that argues that steganography (the science of obfuscating communications) is not in wide use, or at least not on the 2 million images they scanned on eBay. Earlier this year, USA Today reported that Bin Laden was using steganography to disguise his communications. Full study is available here. Wonder how long before someone sets up a distributed computing client to help search for Bin Laden's secret communications? :p" Niels Provos' research was mentioned in Slashback not long ago, and this article is based on the same research.

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  1. Of course it's going to be low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That's why it's called stegnography! You jackass!

    1. Re:Of course it's going to be low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Goddamn! You beat me to that comment.

      Now I've got nothing insightful to say so I'll just do some crapflooding instead...

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    2. Re:Of course it's going to be low by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic


      That's why they call me FAst-Finger-Freddy.

      Oh wait, that's for another reason....

  2. Secrecy is important... by Wind_Walker · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    The last World War was won because of many factors, one that figured very heavily was encryption and secrecy. The fact that the Germans leaked a bit of information through Enigma (always starting with the same introduction to a message, for example) enabled the Allies to have a large strategic advantage which they used fairly effectively throughout the war.

    We need to use this to OUR advantage to make sure that we, the citizens of the world, keep control instead of the Corporations and Governments.

  3. Turd report: 9/26/2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Beer is still causing my turds to get a low score. Today's turd started
    off well, but got sloppy at the end. The only thing saving it from a 3
    rating was it's length. It was very long, about 45 cm; I think that
    if it were solid it would be 55 cm easily. Due to it's losing coheasion
    it looked like a club. It was tapered on one end (like all good turd
    are), but the other end looked like a odd shaped lump. I think the salad
    I had for lunch helped with respect to the volume of the turd. I dropped
    this one at home, so my co-workers were unable to enjoy it. But, since it
    scored so low, that might be a good thing.

    1. Re:Turd report: 9/26/2001 by Slashdolt · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Very clever. If I understand this clever use of steganography correctly, you plan to meet your cohorts in a bar. "Tomorrow's turds" probably refers children. I'm not sure what the score 0 diarrhea reference means, but I have several coworkers working on it right now. "I also had pasta for dinner" means that you were in Italy last night. "Solid turds" is most probably a reference to "No complete ideas have yet been formed."

      You stinking terrorist!

    2. Re:Turd report: 9/26/2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I am going to increase the amount of bread I eat. That usually helps me form some nice solid turds. Out here in the new 'campus' the cafeteria food can be iffy. Sometimes it makes a good turd, but sometimes it owns your ass. I'll let you all know tommorrow.

    3. Re:Turd report: 9/26/2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      My interpretation of "score 0 diarrhea" is that it is a reference to a schedule. Score means twelve, zero means "multiply by ten" diarrhea is "d" for "days".

      So the message reads: "Meet me at the bar. We'll strike at the children. Explosives will arrive via Italy in 120 days."

    4. Re:Turd report: 9/26/2001 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      uh-oh. You all figured it out. I had better bust up my hard drive and eat it. Pass the mayo.

  4. Are they sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    How can you be sure you find them all? Maybe you only detect the ones that are detectable? If a JPEG is steganographiclly encoded in a forest, does it make a sound?

    PS: The period at the end of this sentence is steganographically encoded with a plot to steal the worlds cheese. Or is it this one? Wait, that was a question mark, not a period! Damn, now I forgot where I put it... Even better steganography?

  5. Goatse.cx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    So that's what that image is for, it contains Bin Laden's secret messages! And here we thought it was trolls...

  6. Kill all AC fuckheads. Destroy Sporks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Our precious slashdot users scream out for vengeance:

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    1. Re:Kill all AC fuckheads. Destroy Sporks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      you sir, have a miniscule penis.

      AC's are the defenders of truth, justice and freedom..

  7. I'm using it extensively. by ers81239 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Anything with a sufficiently low signal to noise ratio could be considered steganography. For example, slashdot is a huge steganographic source. I hear that some people hide news for nerds among all the links to goat se* and first posts.

    I've been putting my secret communiques on slashdot for years. They get modded down as offtopic and are quickly hidden from the every prying eyes of my enemies. I just email my cohorts the message ID's and they go look them up.

    MUHAHAHAA!

    --
    there are 2 kinds of people. those who divide people into 2 kinds, and those who don't.
  8. Obfuscation 101 by Slashdot+Cruiser · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    One weekend, we were planning on hitting the mall, but Katz is on probation and can't go. We try to talk him into it, but he doesn't even want to say "mall" or "young boys" over the phone because he thinks they might be tapping his phone.

    So what we do is come up with a plan to obfuscate our communications. In place of "mall", we use "Columbine". In place of "young boys", we use "geeks".

    Now Katz can communicate with us about our plans to hit the mall without letting on what we're really talking about.

    Example:
    "Hey, I was thinking it might be a good idea to revisit Columbine and gets the opinions of several geeks today."

    Means:
    "Hey, let's go the mall and chat up some young boys."

    We were all surprised at how well this worked. In fact, Katz is so pleased he now sends us messages publicly in his articles. Everyone thinks he is writing pseudo-insightful social commentary but he's really just making plans for the weekend.

    So now you know. And knowing is half the battle. The other half involves lots of bullets, heavy artillery, and bleeding.

    --

    Got a full tank of hot grits and a penis bird in the glove box.
  9. Re:Isn't that the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    very punny

    The poster comment compression is evil by the way.

  10. Dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What the hell does it mean when you dream that your friend squeezes your balls and it feels REALLY uncomfortable?

    1. Re:Dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Dude, that was no dream.

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    2. Re:Dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      Wrong. It was a dream but still it bothers me.

      I'm not some friggin' fudge packer or rear admiral and I know for sure that my friend isn't one either.

      Then why the hell am I dreaming about a friend twisting my nuts so hard that it hurts?! And he kept smiling all the time too!

    3. Re:Dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You're an obvious troll but tell me... are you a psychology major?

    4. Re:Dream by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Tell me more about how would it make you feel it if I were?

  11. porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    how many pics on your hd have terrorist plots embeded in them?

  12. Offtopic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Dear stupid moderator:
    this person made a joke related to the topic of the post.

  13. The Obvious solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ban graphical Images

    Ban Encryption without backdoors

    Ban Closed doors

    Ban Privacy

    Ban the internet

    Ban computer disks

    I think I've heard this somewhere before

  14. ahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Bravo, young troll :)