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New DVD Recorder With 52 hours Of HDD Recording Time

BlueQuark writes "I thought that this is cool. Everybody needs one. When I was liviving in Tokyo about a year and a half ago, Pioneer just released a DVD Recorder, which was quite nice. Now it looks like Panasonic will have one that does 52 hours. It's about 200,000 yen or about $1709.00 @ 117.76Tokyo's Y/$ rate. The blurb is a bit short, but can be found here. Or here is a more complete press release which is at Matsushita's site."

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  1. Mirror by robbyjo · · Score: 1, Informative

    Wednesday, September 26, 2001 at 18:30 JST TOKYO -- Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. said Wednesday it will introduce a new DVD video system Dec. 1 with a built-in hard disk drive able to record a maximum 52 hours of video. The DMR-HS1 can edit and store recorded TV broadcasts and images from digital video cameras, said Matsushita, best known for its Panasonic brand products.

    The recorder will sell for 200,000 yen. (Kyodo News)

    Now my question: Recording 52 hours of what quality of video? A DVD quality video or what? I hope that this is not a result of marketing mumbo jumbo...

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  2. Here is the Press Release in case it gets /.'d by Cy+Guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Media Contacts: Akira Kadota, International PR, Tokyo
    Tel: 03-3578-1237 Fax: 03-3437-2776
    Yoshihiro Kitadeya, International PR, Osaka
    Tel: 06-6908-0447 Fax: 06-6907-2013

    Matsushita Electric (Panasonic) Introduces New DMR-HS1 DVD Video Recorder with built-in HDD
    -- Offers a maximum of 52 hours of recording with built-in HDD --
    PIC
    OSAKA, Japan -- Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., best known for its Panasonic brand of consumer electronic and digital communications products, today announced that it will introduce a new DVD video recorder with built-in hard disk drive (HDD), the DMR-HS1, to kick off its new lineup of DVD video recorders. By combining an HDD with a DVD recorder, the new unit enables a maximum of 52 hours of recording on the HDD and 12 hours on DVD-RAM discs to realize easy editing and storage of recorded TV broadcasts and images from digital video cameras. The DMR-HS1 will be launched in the Japanese market on December 1, 2001 at a price of 200,000 yen. In addition, the new DVD video recorder will be exhibited at the Panasonic booth at CEATEC JAPAN 2001, to be held from October 2 to 6 at Makuhari Messe (Nippon Convention Center) in Chiba, east of Tokyo.

    Panasonic's DMR-HS1 DVD video recorder offers a wide range of recording versatility. The internal 40 GB HDD makes possible up to 52 hours of extended recording in EP mode to the HDD and 12 hours to a double-sided DVD-RAM disc. Timer recording can automatically reuse the recorded program settings every week for serial TV programs, freeing viewers from having to delete last week's episodes to retrieve space for new ones when disk space is limited.

    In addition, a "Time Slip" function is offered that includes Chase Playback and Simultaneous Recording and Playback capabilities. This function enables playback from any point in a previously recorded or currently recording program while recording continues until the current program's end.

    Employing an iLINK cable and incorporated DV input terminal, high quality digital images can be dubbed onto DVD-RAM and DVD-R discs through its easy-to-use "DV Automatic Recording" mode. The "Play List," a list of still images representing a sequence of scenes, can be made automatically to make editing easier. High-speed dubbing at 22 Mbps from the HDD to DVD-RAM can be done with the touch of a single button, enabling 12x speed in EP mode at its quickest (e.g., a one-hour program can be dubbed in just 5 minutes). Dubbing from DVD-RAM to the HDD is available as well.

    The DVD video recording technology used in this new unit complies with the DVD-RAM recording formats standardized by the DVD Forum. DVD-RAM is not only compatible with both audio/video and PC applications, but its optical format also boasts superior rewritability, allowing approximately 100,000 rewrites per disc.

    The global demand for DVD players in fiscal year 2001 (year ending March 2002) is forecast to reach 25 million units, with more than 11,000 DVD software titles. With its vast capacity, high-speed data transmission, high-speed random access, exceptional image quality, and high sound quality, DVD-RAM is the optimal choice in today's expanding digital media environment.

    About Matsushita Electric Industrial
    Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., best known for its Panasonic, National, Technics, and Quasar brand names, is a worldwide leader in the development and manufacture of electronics products for a wide range of consumer, business, and industrial needs. Based in Osaka, Japan, the company recorded consolidated sales of US$61.45 billion for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001. In addition to the Tokyo and other Japanese stock exchanges (6752), Matsushita's shares are also listed on the Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Frankfurt, New York, Pacific (NYSE/PCX: MC), and Paris stock exchanges. For more information, visit the Matsushita web site at http://www.panasonic.co.jp/global/top.html.

  3. 52 hours = 40 GB = $80 by peter303 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The press release says 52 hours is 40 GB.
    (Most DVCR users would recommend 2GB / hour.)
    Even so, the disk cost should be $80 at current
    commodity disk prices.

  4. Re:DVD-RAM?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Open up the DVD-RAM cartridge via the tab on the top, slide out the DVD and pop it into a player.

  5. Re:Media company responese? by Sc00ter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well it doesn't seem like it has all the cool TiVo features (thumbs up/down, guide, season passes). and remember, this isn't in the US.

  6. Re:divx? by TheFlyingGoat · · Score: 2, Informative

    As files, or as actual video? DVD video is encoded as high quality MPEG, I believe, so divx wouldn't save space. It would just be converted to MPEG and be written to the DVD. The total onto a double sided disk would be around 4 hours.

    As a file written to DVD-RAM, you can only do one layer on each side for a total of 5.2gb (http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/DVD/dvd.ht ml).

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  7. Re:Copywrite Implications? by well_jung · · Score: 4, Informative
    This won't affect it too much. It uses DVD-RAM, which few poeple actually care to invest in (DVD-RW is the standard for desktop DVD recording)

    They won't play in regular DVD players (different media)

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  8. Post it on the net? by oneiros27 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Why not just wait for the ReplayTV new offerings?

    $2000, and it's got an ethernet port, so you can just hook it to the internet and share it with others:
    http://www.replaytv.com/partners_products/features .html

    (the $2000 model is 320hrs...they don't mention a drive size, so I'm going to assume it'll record about 200hrs of decent quality stuff, based on the way TiVo numbers their stuff...there's also a $700 model, with only '40 hours' [ie, 25hrs-ish] record time)

    And before you complain that 'but then the folks you send it to will have to have the same brand machine', you didn't think that even though thesre new boxes mentions write to DVD-RAM, that they'd be encoded in a way to read from a normal DVD player, did you? That encoding would take too long for 'em to be able to do in real time without it costing some serious cash.
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    1. Re:Post it on the net? by alastairm · · Score: 2, Informative
      Christ - read the article before replying!
      Employing an iLINK cable and incorporated DV input terminal, high quality digital images can be dubbed onto DVD-RAM and DVD-R discs through its easy-to-use "DV Automatic Recording" mode


      DVD-R uses standard DVD-Video formating. Hence it will playback in ANY DVD-Video player. This is what is really cool about this device - Make DVD Videos for the family from your home movies.