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Netcraft Survey Updated

The latest survey is out and ready for reading from Netcraft. There's some interesting commentary in regards to Code Red, and its effects on web usage. One of the things that I found most interesting was the data showing that while the number of sites hosted by Apache continues to grow, the number of physical webservers running some variety of Windows is about half of the total. Worth checking out.

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  1. MS Trickery by Jebediah21 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe I have been taking too much acid in the last couple of days (Wow, look! A rainbow Tux!), but I think this is part of Microsoft's plan.

    If it takes 2 MS machines to replace every Apache machine MS will be sitting pretty. All they need is a few pointy haired bosses who are naive enough to spend more money for more machines. Then they can say they have the most marketshare. Combined with some FUD this makes a great way gain new clients. Eventually Apache will dwindle, and the corporate world will shun you unless you use MS.

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    1. Re:MS Trickery by sphealey · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Maybe I have been taking too much acid in the last couple of days (Wow, look! A rainbow Tux!), but I think this is part of Microsoft's plan. If it takes 2 MS machines to replace every Apache machine MS will be sitting pretty. All they need is a few pointy haired bosses who are naive enough to spend more money for more machines. Then they can say they have the most marketshare

      That's not exactly a new idea for Microsoft: it was one of their key tactics in the battle against Novell. Top brass would be sold on how much less expensive NT was than Netware. When all was said and done, 1 Netware sever with two support techs would be replaced by 15 NT servers and 10 support techs. But it happened over a period of time and no one understood what was really going on.

      Of course, those 10 new techs then became evangalists for pushing more Microsoft stuff, and the rest is history...

      sPh

  2. It will be hard to tell. by IncarnationTwo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As the article itself said, even when many IIS sites have gone down, since Gartner's report. It is hard to tell wether they just chaged ip, as the systems were reinstalled etc.

    On the other hand, I would see it positive, if it would change some IIS servers to linux. For the growth of linux on the pie has been taken from the other *nixes.

    Are there any good ways do advocate such behaviour?

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  3. Re:No CodeSlashdot affecting Netcraft then by allism · · Score: 1, Insightful

    How much slashdot effect is there really going to be at 7am? Most good little nerds are still in bed or are at work (i.e. working, not going in to work early to read slashdot)

  4. probably even more Windows than we think by Evil+Grinn · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Unfortunately the number of Windows boxen out there is probably higher than the survey would indicate.


    Remember that Netcraft's OS detection only detects the OS of the machine that is directly connected to the Internet. See their own faq
    at http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html


    If you put your company's NT server behind a Unix-based firewall or proxy, it will be detected by Netcraft as Unix. This is probably a pretty common setup at many companies hosting their own web sites.

  5. Systematic over counting of Microsoft servers? by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 5, Insightful
    From the document:
    Of the 80,000 ip addresses no longer running Microsoft-IIS, only around 2,000 are now running a competing web server.

    This kind of implies to me that at least 78,000 of the machines Netcraft have been counting as IIS Web servers were in fact just machines on which IIS had been loaded by default, and were never serving any real content anyway. If that's true of 78,000, how many more is it true of? In other words, are Netcraft systematically overcounting IIS by counting all machines with IIS running whether they are in fact serving any real content or not? Likewise, how many of the 'Apache' servers counted are in fact just 'out of the box' Linux installs with no real content?

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  6. Re:This is slightly flawed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    This brings up the question:

    What happens if we all get together and politely ask Netcraft to start *checking* to see which sites are in use?

    I'm not sure quite how easy this would be given netcraft's methodology (i thought i once found a page on netcraft's site explaining what their methodology was-- now i can't find it. did i imagine this?) but i would think it would be quite interesting if next time they ran the survey, they would load index.html for every site surveyed, quickly check to see if it matches the default page for any known version of either apache or windows nt, and then give us a little graph showing how many Apache servers are running without the awareness of the admin vs. how many IIS servers are running without the awareness of the admin..

    Would that be feasible? Would they do it if enough of us got together and asked politely? I think that would be fascinating.

    (Of course, i guess you could say some Apache servers are out there where the default / page has not yet been replaced but yet ~user pages exist.. i'd say the number of sites that fit that description would be absolutely negligible, though.)

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  7. People seem to be forgetting... by Snootch · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...that the vast majority of those IIS machines now taken off the web are just offline so they can be de-wormed, patched, and generally brought back into working order - I know, I've watched this happen (nasty Nimda infestation). People are acting like the only reason NT servers ever go down are Apache installs or permanent removals!

  8. Military websites by tiny69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The military has already shutdown a large number of their websites. Generally, each unit has their own website/server. Sometimes sections within each unit will also have their own website/server depending on how important they view themselves as being. The information those sites provide is usually basic, very rarely has dynamic content, and can very easily be obtained by other means.

    Those who have had sites that were shutdown now have to get approval (from several echelons up) before that can put their sites back up. I'm not going to say what the new web servers will be running, but it WILL NOT be Miscrosoft's IIS. The websites that are still running IIS are actively scanned for vulnerabilities (by someone other then several thousand script kiddies).

    I will not be surprised if ALL of the webservers run by the military will be moved over to something else.

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