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Netcraft Survey Updated

The latest survey is out and ready for reading from Netcraft. There's some interesting commentary in regards to Code Red, and its effects on web usage. One of the things that I found most interesting was the data showing that while the number of sites hosted by Apache continues to grow, the number of physical webservers running some variety of Windows is about half of the total. Worth checking out.

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  1. Re:The real reason 80,000 IIS Servers disappeared by mks113 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm surprised that they don't infer that a large number of those sites were alerted to the fact that they were running IIS when they were hit by code-red. They shut it down because they didn't need it, not because they replaced it!

    Amazing how many of the code red servers were displaying the sample page.

  2. Code Red / Nimda by squaretorus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Our experience with our access provider is interesting in relation to the Code Red effects described in this report.
    We live in a block of office units with shared network access. Our landlord is about as non tech as they come, the whole company, and outsource the LAN provision.
    The phones and LAN went down twice due to Nimda, although our machines were unaffected - being patched!
    The operator has given our landlord the following advice "Cut them off unless they have Norton". So we get a visit from a suit asking if we have Norton on our computers. We don't we have McAfee. His response?
    "Get Norton by Friday or your being disconnected"

    People just don't understand this stuff. We have fully patched machines, which run good virus software, but our PHB landlord denies us access to the network that WE PAY FOR beause we chose a different software solution.

  3. This is slightly flawed by Matey-O · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Web Server Survey is a survey of Web Server software usage on Internet connected computers. We collect and collate as many hostnames providing an http service as we can find, and systematically poll each one with an HTTP request for the server name."

    This DOES NOT account for the number of Web servers running a particular package to do something, it accounts for the number of servers _installed_ whether intentionally or not.

    Further, it doesn't account for website overloading whereby a number of sites reside on the same IP address. Does Geocities count as one site, as it [may] only be registered to one IP?

    "The impact of Code Red has resulted in around 150,000 Microsoft-IIS sites on 80,000 ip addresses disappearing from the internet,..."

    Hmmm, could be a bunch of folks realized that IIS server on their SQL server was unnecessary. Again, they may have 'disappeared', but it doesn't mean they were used in the first place.

    I mention the above as it's how were functioning in OUR case. (3 or 4 machines that never used IIS have it turned off now, and we've got several large sites all sharing the same IP and servers)

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  4. Number of IIS exploitable servers going back UP? by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What's with that? The end of month figures for vulnerable IIS systems show an increase in cross site scripting, accessible admin pages and viewable script source. Any guesses?

    Is it just that they're more visible? Or is it a whole bunch of sysadmins formatting, re-installing, then selectively patching for the last three exploits that they can remember? Wierd.

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  5. Switching takes time by MS · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Recently I migrated a mid-sized server from FreeBSD to Linux... it took me about a month: in this process I also changed database software, rewrote many programs (written in C, PHP and Shellscripts) and had to test lots of functions...

    Usually it is quite simple to migrate between Unices and Linux, but its quite a challenge to switch from a Microsoft platform to some *nix/Apache platform, if the server serves more than simple static pages.

    I believe, the process to migrate from WinXXXX/IIS to *nix/Apache will take a few months, not weeks, for management decision (big corporations are not able to produce decisions in a few hours, but will take weeks - till the next "meeting" or so), reprogramming, data-migration, testing etc.

    That's the reason, why Netcraft itself stated:

    Switching from a Microsoft to Unix platform will usually involve some significant effort for a site with any significant investment in dynamic content.
    So give us time, and lets analyse the stats again in a few months.

    ms ms

  6. Methodologies are important by billsf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems Netcraft has a very hard job to do. Yes, I eagerly check them every month to see that my favourite web server (Apache ofcourse) is well on top. I'm also glad BSD isn't dying as some troll reported. 6% BSD on the web could mean many more times that in market share. 50% Windoze appears to count for only a tiny proportion of the computing power on the web. A good point was made that in this tabulation, a $1k "el cheapo" counts the same as a $1M top-of-the-line Sun!

    For starters, maybe research should be done to determine which servers and platforms serve the most actual pages on the web. It is very reasonable to state the very same hardware will serve twice the volume with Apache Unix than IIS-win. The type of Unix may matter too. Large sites tend to use Linux, very large sites tend to use BSD. Moderate sites use Solaris (and only the smallest use IIS) in general. If security is of any concern, Windoze is a joke. Apache makes a Windoze version, but warns it should never be used in a production setting - just for a quick prototype. (to show management)

    More interesting is which system serves the most data overall? The people that work on the 'big iron' say it is Linux by far, then a toss-up between Solaris and BSD. With a paltry 5%, comes the combined power of all Microsoft PC's.

    The point is clear and we have all heard it: "You can prove or dis-prove anything by how you manipulate statistics". So M$ is the best from their prospective, and so is Linux from theirs and the same for Sun, BSD and all the others. BSD does make a good point that they can serve 100x the data for the same cost as Microsoft, and that assumes you *pirated the Microsoft software* and does not include 'down time' so many Microsoft users can relate to, nevermind all the email worms and Trojans either!