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3G Cel Service Starts in Japan

Graymalkn writes "According to this story on the BBC, DoCoMo has finally launched the world's first 3G cellular service in Japan. Phones start at $560 and can go as high as $800 for one which can double as a video camera." Eventually they'll be able to watch movies on the new phones, but for now service for the phones is limited to a 20 mile radius around the center of Tokyo. I haven't found an exact number of bandwidth, but I believe it's like 384k downlink. To your phone. Once again, my jealousy runs rampant.

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  1. correction on retail prices by psych031337 · · Score: 3, Informative

    From http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/reuters_wir e/1530436l.htm

    The standard model costs about 48,000 yen ($400) while the fancier video model costs about 68,000 yen ($570). The data model can be had for about 28,000 yen ($235).

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  2. Yes, GPRS *is* happening by Snootch · · Score: 2, Informative

    GPRS phones are now on sale in the UK (and if we've got 'em, American's must have had them for ages!). However, it's currently still over a circuit-switched link - that is, the phone establishes a channel to the server, just like for a voice call or WAP, and then sends data down it, using PPP or summat similar. However, you still only get charged per kb (well, "only" - 1kb is very small, plus the minimum packet length is about 170 chars I think, so it'll cost a bomb - not for me yet). At least that's on this side of the Atlantic. Any Americans care to enlighten us?

  3. Re:1 hour battery life by ergo98 · · Score: 4, Informative

    That article merely says that it heats up after 15 minutes (i.e. It doesn't say that it overheats. My laptop heats up pretty wickedly but it still works). Every technology has to start somewhere. This will give them the capital to make v2 that has a long battery life and is commercially accepted.

  4. Re:1 hour battery life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It "heats up", not "overheats". Batteries normally heat up when they're being drained quickly. Saying that they're overheating is like saying your video card overheats because the heatsink gets warm after you start playing Quake.

  5. Re:Why is the US so far behind in wireless? by sien · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is comes down to a really a fundamental and interesting question. Comparing US, Japanese and European adoption rates for various technologies is something that should be done more.
    The US leads in broadband adoption, but whether this will continue is another question. US long distance phone rates also were the cheapest in the world for ages. There used to be a whole heap of reverse dial services which would use a US base to place to calls to the destinations and hook up the connection. These services used to be cheaper than a one way connection from many countries.
    I think the US also leads in cable TV subscriptions, but I'm not sure. As for mobile phones, the US is way behind and primitive. I can't believe how much a cell phone would cost me here compared to Europe and Australia.
    The answers that you propose for the differences in mobile adoption are interesting. I think you leave out one thing that really affects the whole game, regulations. In Europe ONE mobile phone standard was set, wheras in the US there are at least 3. The whole market is different. In Japan it's different again. NTT has a monopoly which it can do what it likes with. Sure Japanese phones are neat, and their wireless web is neat, but check the prices !
    Also, I think the other thing to look at the differing business cultures. In the US there is very harsh, hard competition and wrenching of every possible profit. In Europe there is more cooperation and Japan there is a tradition of incredible mixing between companies and the government and a really homogenous population.
    There was an article in Wired a month or two ago when they talked about how successful the wireless web was in Japan, and The Economist has also commented on this. The fundamental question raised in both is whether it was 'a fluke' or something that can be translated all over the world. While it seems that fluke is harsh, it should be said that their are important cultural differences between these markets.

  6. Re:Not in North America... by dannywyatt · · Score: 2, Informative

    Voicestream has rolled out GPRS over their entire network. Check their site for istream, as they're branding it.

    Suprised that went unnoticed so long...

  7. 384 downlink - just dream by Panu+H�llfors · · Score: 3, Informative
    I don't know what you call the 3G, but here in Finland it currently stands for GPRS (General Packet Radio System). You can see the really fast WCDMA in the blurred future only.

    In Finland the maximum bandwidth of GPRS networks will be something like 20 - 30 kilobits per second during the next few years. This is due to the lack of advanced coding schemas (the starndards are here for up to 155kbps but no-one has implementations) and not allocating all 8 timeslots of the communication channel for GPRS (this will, however, not be the case in other countries shere GSM is not used as much as here).
    However, if they really have the WCDMA working it's something very cool. And bloody expensive.

    Source: GPRS for Application developers course at Ericsson last summer.

    -Panu

  8. Re:Add GPS, and you have... by Yokaze · · Score: 3, Informative

    GPS will aid GSM, but you can do without it.
    In cities, GSM can give you position information in with an accuracy of about 100m. Which suffices for several location based information.
    PHS systems will provide an accuracy from up to 100m, too.
    Telcos currently know in which cell you are and how far you're away from its base station. Sometimes, they even know your distance from a second base station.
    This is already used to offer differentiated price schemes and (e.g cheaper rates in your home cell (no pun intended)) location based services in at least Japan and Germany, and BT has invested quite a amount for wcities, some location-based information service provider (a new buzzword, rejoice).
    As you may see it's not far fetched, it's already (to some degree) there and it is considered as the next goldmine (or at least the investors hope so)

    This doesn't necessarily requires advertisement as it can be seen as a advertisement in itself.
    The providing telco can use it as argument to differentiate itself from other telcos.

    Nonetheless, I think it'll surely lead to advertisement. The whole thing reminds somehow of yahoo.com.

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