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Pocket PC 2002

Microsoft is holding some sort of launch event today for a pile of new Pocket PC devices. Pocket PC Thoughts has a bunch of news items; PDA Buzz has a report and pretty comparison chart looking at the different models, and I'm sure people will post more links in the comments. So, is this the mighty Palm-killer?

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  1. Colonel Mustard did it in the CompUSA by szcx · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Palm is the mighty Palm killer. Pocket PC (and now Pocket PC 2002) are just nails in the coffin.

    There are warehouses full of Palm devices they can't give away while HP, Casio, and Compaq are having trouble manufacturing Pocket PC's fast enough to meet market demand.

  2. Re:The Palm is already dying by sulli · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Huh? I don't get it. MHz matters not on an organizer. What matters are ease of use, battery life, and cost. What's clobbering Palm is the fact that people are still happy with the Palms they bought 2-3 years ago and see no need to upgrade - not a wholesale shift to Pocket PC.

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    sulli
    RTFJ.
  3. It is the Palm killer. Here's why: by corky6921 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I used to work at a very Linux-oriented company, with a guy who absolutely hated Windows. He ran Linux on everything, and had a Palm.

    One day he got an iPaQ to replace his Palm Pilot. "Oh, are you going to run Linux on it?" I asked him. "No," he said, "I am running Windows CE."

    When I asked him why, he said it was simply easier to develop software for Windows CE handhelds. Palm forces you to buy a developer kit, but you can use standard Microsoft tools to develop for Windows CE. Windows CE 3.0 even has the source code available.

    Palm has a large legacy base, but they've missed the boat both with development tools and with color screens and MP3 playback. Why should I buy a Palm when I can buy a handheld PC that I can use as an MP3 player, voice recorder, and have wireless Internet access in full color to boot?

    Dataquest thinks so too.

  4. killer $600 organizers by hatless · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They're nice, much as the wave of Pocket PCs they're replacing were. But they still cost $600. $600 is what a lot of companies pay for their desktop systems these days. They have their place, and they'll sell all right.. but nobody has yet come out with a usable $150-$300 Pocket PC, and that's what most Palms sell for, even color ones now.

    Palms do a lot less. They store less. They can't play MP3s without extra hardware, can't run a WinFrame client decently, and so on. They're also cheap enough to be an impulse purchase or a cheap corporate gift to employees. Some companies give senior managers Pocket PCs. But other companies give low-end Palms to pretty much anyone on a yearly salary.

    The $450 high-end Palms don't compete well on features with the fancy Pocket PCs, though they are markedly simpler and quicker to use for the core organizer functions. But Palm's bread and butter nowadays is the low-to-midrange, as it is for Handspring too. And the Pocket PC devices just don't compete there at all.

    Palm does need to boost its specs and give the OS a facelift soon, and they seem to be working on that with their announced move to RISC processors and the Be acquisition. But you can bet they'll stick to $200 mass-market PDAs and leave the $600 devices to whoever wants them. And all the talk about Compaq's iPaq beating Palm in sales numbers is based on dollars--on a low-margin, high-cost product. And with the Palm III/m100 series making up the bulk of Palm sales during that period, that still meant Palm was beating them by at least 3:1 in unit sales.

  5. Solar Power by WallyCanuck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The first PDA powered by solar power wins. It might have a battery for backlighting during the night but as soon as you don't have to worry about batteries i want one. In this regard Palm/Handspring have a shot since they don't require much power as it is.

    IMHO...

  6. Re:Media on Pocket PC by _xeno_ · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You can also watch DivX movies on your Pocket PC. Not really sure why anyone would want to, but I've downloaded the player to my iPaq and it definately works and has an almost-acceptable framerate - works best with movies where little changes.

    If you have a Pocket PC, check it out. It's kinda useless, but it's still fun...

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  7. MP3? Bah! by Kris_J · · Score: 3, Interesting
    MP3 drains too much power on PDAs, and there's the problem of having headphones connected to something you use like a PDA. I have the MP3 add-on for the Ericsson T28 and it's a much better option. Hardly any batter drain, and when I get a phone call not only do I actually hear it, but it automatically pauses the music and answers the call, then when the call ends the music starts again.

    Audio functionality together, visual functionality together (Like my TRGpro and Kodak Palmpix), Audio/Visual functionality apart. Then communicate with something like Bluetooth.