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Senate Trashes Civil Liberties; House to Vote Today

The U.S. Senate passed its version of the "anti-terrorism" legislation last night. The Washington Post, CNN, and Wired all have stories. There are terrorists under every rock, and we must destroy our freedom in order to save it. Remember: gamblers are terrorists too. The House is apparently going to drop their version of the legislation and vote on a copy of the Senate bill.

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  1. Sooo happy I live i nEurope by selderrr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    an not in the US..

    or afghanistan for another matter...

  2. Tragedy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    One of the greatest tragedies in Modern::America(TM) is the sad way in which so few are prepared to take a stand for the continued well-being of this great country.
    Leading the charge towards apathy are those who have gained most from the current state of the nation. Ironic that the ones who gain the most are willing to do the least.
    They are middle-class, typically white, often nerdy types who believe that they have rights over and above those of other citizens. Perhaps if they had needed to struggle for existence just once in their young lives they would not be so quick to complain at the efforts of our elected representatives to maintain the safety of all people.
    Instead, they would rather claim to be negatively affected by the restriction of their 'right' to use hacker software and steal music from the hard-working artists. The effect this theft has had on our beleaguered economy may never be truly appreciated.
    I for one applaud the Senate for their foresight and continued hard work for the good of the nation. The unAmerican outpouring of dissent at these much-needed new laws is saddening, suggesting that further efforts may be needed to silence those persist in their unwholesome efforts to undermine the government. The risk that good-hearted American people may be tainted by this evil requires, nay demands, that hate-filled propaganda sites like Slashdot be shut down forever or brought under government control.
    Do not delay, write your representative immediately. I have, and shall again, under a variety of assumed names.

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  3. Living in NYC, take my rights I don't care! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Hey complain all you want. I am in NYC right now pretty much shitting myself while reading about how Anthrax works.

    It has been just about a month since I watched the first world trade center building collapse from the roof at work in midtown Manhattan. I have gone to two funerals for friends and family killed in this attack. I go through one of the largest commuting hubs in NYC every day, Penn Station, which is crawling with unarmed National Guardsmen.

    Right now and forever on I have no problem allowing the government to track everything I do and who I do it with. I have no feeling of security in anything I do anymore, I don't care if our own government is watching me every minute as long as I don't have to spend another hour trying to find out when my doctor can take a blood sample for Anthrax testing today and even if he does take it if the result would even come back in time to do anything about it.

    The rights that they are taking away are important and signifigant but if it allows terrorism to take place I must put my trust in the government because they are all I have right now. The government may be taking advatage of our rights, but the terrorists are taking advantage of our lives.

    I plan on joining the thousands of others in this city by quiting my job and getting the hell out of dodge for a while; Mom, Dad, Sis I'm coming home! I wish it never came to this.

    1. Re:Living in NYC, take my rights I don't care! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
      Yes, NYC is now under anthrax attack. God bless you. Our prayers are with you. Be strong.

      Unfortunately it is too bad all your liberal New York politicians let these people into our country in the first place. And it is even sadder that it was many Jewish politicians who were letting in the very people who wish to exterminate them. Hard to figure. It is hard to figure.

  4. Re:We bitch about civil liberties on /. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    The problem on September 11th wasn't that we aren't a police state, but that three planeloads of americans were subdued by men with box-cutters because we've been made a nation of unarmed sheep in the futile interest of protecting us from each other according the the plan of knuckleheads who think liberty and security are opposed.

    Con-fucking-cur. How likely would those raghead cocksuckers have been to be successful when staring down the barrels of about 100 pistols? Everyone on board might still be dead, but they would have been denied their victory.

    Nuke Afghanistan and restore the Second Amendment!

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  5. Re:The lone cowboy... by NineNine · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Wow. You are truly stupid. They want to stop people from killing innocent Americans, you stupid sack of shit.

  6. Fuck you, Michael by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Senate Trashes Civil Liberties; House to Vote Today

    Only one -- ONE -- senator voted against. Maybe it's not as bad as you think?

    When I see bullshit inflammitory headlines like this, it makes me sick. Sick that someone is so stupid that they just assume that ANY legislation that expands the power and ability of the FBI is automatically bad. Sick that they can't actually identify what's wrong with the legislation.

    And sick that he is using the same tactics that he accuses others of using: Using flaming rhetoric rather than facts to scare people into going along with him.

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  7. Hacker vs. Cracker = high school mentality by TheMonkeyDepartment · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Oh my fucking god. If I hear one more person complain about the misuse of the term "hacker" vs "cracker" I'm going to scream.

    This argument is essentially the same as hearing a high school kid tell you "I'm not a skater, I'm a stoner." It's just a matter of semantics, and one that most people don't really care about anyway.

    To most people, the word "hacker" denotes illegal activity. OK? You can argue all you want about what label gets slapped on you. But most people in the country hear "hacker", they think of some fat white guy trying to do illegal shit with a computer. IT IS TIME TO ACCEPT THIS AND MOVE ON TO MORE IMPORTANT BATTLES.

    If you are fighting a battle to educate the world that "hackers" are harmless and "crackers" are evil, you are wasting your time on a meaningless fight. To most people, it's the exact difference between "trekkers" and "trekkies" -- who gives a fuck? Just stay out of computers that don't belong to you.

    There are more important things going on right now, people. Don't rehash this whole stupid "i'm a hacker, he's a cracker" argument. Give that one up. Focus on the important shit. And believe me, there's plenty of important shit.

  8. Re:The Details, RTFL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    How do you figure? Despite the lies the NRA tells you, individual citizens do NOT have a constitutionally protected right to own firearms, according to the Supreme court (sometime in the 50s).

  9. Re:The Supremes say, "Bring it on!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Oh! Oh! I have an idea! Why don't we make it EASIER for people to fly jumbo jets into buildings! I mean, I'm not really free if I can't carry a fucking gun on an airplane, am I??? Shit, let's just let terrorist organizations start applying for government loans! I mean, we want freedom, right?!? You're limiting their freedom to kill us by doing something that might actually make it harder for them to launder money! SCREW THAT! Give me freedom or give me death or something.

    Morons...

  10. Re:Now enhance H1B program, too... by codepunk · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Better yet send all of their sorry asses back home. H1B holders are the parasite of the US IT work force. We have citizens out of jobs and they keep bringing in more and more of these low skilled half assed programmers.

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  11. Re:Online Petition by Rombuu · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I will be interested to see if you still feel the same way when the next round of laws come, which will make it illegal to "Speak out against our government in times of crisis".


    Ah, the slippery slope argument. Usually pulled out then someone realizes they have a flawed position so they start throwing around "what if.." scenarios.

    If someone proposes such legislation, I would oppose it, but they haven't, so I don't.

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