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Mozilla 0.9.5

Posted by michael on from the more-happiness-than-one-person-can-stand dept.

agotneja writes: "Check out mozilla.org for details :) Another fine (hopefully!) release." For whatever reason, 1.0 still seems really far off.

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  1. Worse is Better? by marm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is it that people always forget the Konqueror?

    I don't think they do. Konqueror is my preferred browser by far. It's not perfect, there are areas where it needs a little work (Javascript and Netscape plugin handling for instance) but the overall feel of the browser UI and rendering engine is unmatched. It's quick, full of useful features, relatively light on resources and renders well. In short, everything I want out of a web browser.

    There are a few reasons people have stopped making much noise over Konqueror recently:

    • There hasn't been a major release of it recently, and there won't be for a little while either (not until KDE3 sometime early next year). This is due to Konqui's coupling to the KDE release schedules. Fair enough I think, given that Konqueror is a key component of KDE.
    • The inevitability of Konqui becoming popular, maybe even the most common Linux browser - AKA the IE effect. KDE is the default desktop for most distros these days, and Konqueror is the default web browser for all those KDE desktops. It's a good browser and tightly integrated into KDE. Why bother switching to anything else?
    • The fact that many users of Konqui are very happy indeed with its performance, and, perceiving the rapid success which Konqueror has had, feel no need to crow too much about it?

    I think that the 'battle' between Konqueror and Mozilla to be the most successful *nix browser is a little like the 1970's 'battle' between UNIX and Lisp machines. Lisp machines (perhaps like Mozilla) were designed by people whose emphasis was on the 'right way' and completeness above all else. If that meant a very large and complex system, then so be it. UNIX (perhaps a bit like Konqueror) was designed by people whose emphasis was on the 'right way' and completeness but ABSOLUTELY NOT at the expense of simplicity.

    We all know now who won that 'battle'.

    There's more about this subtle difference in design philosophy here. Yes, notice where this is hosted - Jamie Zawinski's site. Ironic? Perhaps not, given jwz's resignation from Netscape and Mozilla. You be the judge.

  2. Re:i don't really understand you by Gerv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Can't we geeks have at least ONE fucking browser for ourselves?

    What you mean is: "Waah! Why won't someone write the browser _I_ want?"

    You're a geek. Go do a Mozilla distribution for geeks. Add in all the patches like gestures and PGP. Do a new, cool skin. People will love it. That's what the code is for. mozilla.org wants to see that happen.

    Or quit whining.

    Gerv

  3. Re:Not biased, just practical by BZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Please, be more specific on what is missing from
    > Konqueror.

    Decent support for the W3C DOM. Decent XML support. Good CSS2 support.

    It renders brain-dead sites fine. It does not render sites using current technology fine.