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Winamp Alpha for Linux

nerdguy0 writes "It appears that Winamp isn't just for Windows anymore. Nullsoft has a Linux alpha of Winamp3 out on their site. Hopefully it doesn't overshadow all of the hard work the XMMS people have done." Does winamp have better playlist controls then xmms? I've taken to using freeamp just because it has decent playlist controls. I say decent, not good. I want something with a tivo type of intelligence, but everything that claims to do something like this, well, doesn't.

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  1. Winamp authors by GoatPigSheep · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hopefully it doesn't overshadow all of the hard work the XMMS people have done.
    Who's to say the winamp people haven't done hard work either? Just because they have corporate sponsorship and their software is closed-source doesn't mean the software is 'bad'. Besides, if there are already good players available for linux, I doubt people would switch to a closed-source solution that does the exact same thing, unless it offered superior features of some kind. Anyway, this should be considered a good thing, as linux needs as much support as it can get when it comes to multimedia applications, and especially ones from big companies (in this case, AOL)

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    1. Re:Winamp authors by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Uh, keep in mind that "Support from Nullsoft" != "Support from AOL." Of course, Nullsoft is a little part of AOL. Nullsoft has definitely done things that AOL would never do. Even while it's been a part of AOL.

      It reminds me a little of Miramax, although Nullsoft never did anything like this: "We made this movie called 'Kids' but we can't release it because it's NC-17. Oh, what shall we do? Such is the plight of an artist owned by Disney. Oh me, oh my." And then finally selling it for twice what it was worth after hyping it for long enough.

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  2. I don't like this trend... by GeekLife.com · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Complaining on and on about how Company X won't provide Software X for Linux, followed (immediately upon release by Company X of Linux version) of complete deriding of that software (comparing its features to some previously created Linux software) is not good encouragement for other software companies looking into the possibility.

    Not to say software shouldn't be allowed to compete against other similar software so that the best can win, but the immediate, relentless bias towards the earlier-compatible software serves no one.

    1. Re:I don't like this trend... by pbryan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Complaining on and on about how Company X won't provide Software X for Linux, followed (immediately upon release by Company X of Linux version) of complete deriding of that software (comparing its features to some previously created Linux software) is not good encouragement for other software companies looking into the possibility.

      The only encouragement for commercial software companies looking into the possibility is the potential to make money from the sale of their software product. That's going to be any software company's burden to overcome if they're going to play in the Linux arena.

      Linux users are naturally going to compare the proprietary software offering with open source alternatives. Some are naturally going to resist using the closed source product because they know what they'll have to give up if they do, namely some freedom.

      Some software overcomes this burden and succeeds. I dare say VMware is presently in this position, providing the best hardware virtualization software available today. Perhaps Plex86 may one day shift the balance of power, in the Linux workstation market.

      Most commercial software companies who introduce proprietary software in the Linux marketplace will naturally find a lukewarm response unless the value potential of their offering overcomes the existing culture.

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  3. Why use Winamp? by reynaert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why would I so unique about Winamp that I would want to switch? Last time I used Windows, Winamp was a nice player that did it job without being annoying. (Quite an achievement for Windows software, BTW). But what does Winamp have that popular Linux players, such as XMMS and Freeamp lack?

  4. Re:what about... by XNormal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Recently there have been a few projects using a subset of wine to support some subset of Win32 for some specific purpose (codecs, games etc). This looks like a possible application for this technology. I wouldn't be surprised if WinAMP itself is being ported with the aid of winelib.

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  5. Re:Tivo-like controls? thumbs up and down by victim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    IDNOAT, but I hear Tivos have a "thumbs up" and a "thumbs down" function to allow you to give feedback to it about what you like.

    The interesting part is that half of that user interface is already in an mp3 player, they just need to take advantage of it.

    Consider...

    I have about 4000 tracks in my mp3 library. I leave xmms on shuffle play. There are tracks that I almost always skip. Sometimes it is a weak track on an album, sometimes it has especially inflamatory lyrics and isn't appropriate for the office, sometimes it is an artist that has ticked me off (Randy Newman isn't getting played much lately).

    The player should keep track of which tracks or artists I habitually skip reduce their probability in the play list. If I stop skipping them then it should start reducing their penalty. (Say Randy Newman drops his suit against mp3.com and apologizes, I might stop skipping his tracks.)

    There, no complicated user interface required. Just a player that pays attention and learns a wee bit. For bonus points, add a "i like it" button to the user interface and allow tracks to acquire 'thumbs up' points as well.

  6. Re:You need multimedia apps in Linux? by LinuxHam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What if the developers' strengths are in developing multimedia applications? Or GUIs? Do you want them to develop MySQL until *you're* ready to use Linux as a desktop? Not me. What about the StarOffice, AbiWord and Ximian developers? Do you want them to abandon their projects so they can work on something you approve of?

    I for one use Linux as my desktop for 70 hours a week rebooting to Windows only when I need to check my email in Lotus Notes (and that's only because I haven't loaded the RPM yet).

    Its not up to you to decide how the rest of us use Linux. It already is a desktop-suitable OS.

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  7. The obvious namechange... by Omerna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The name has to be changed to Linamp.

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  8. Re:Its the Linux Standard packaging system. Deal! by ZorinLynx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not just that, but it requires a very bleeding edge Linux system (Glibc 2.2, libfreetype, libstdc++-libc6.2)

    Personally, I feel they should release this as a completely static binary, this way it can be run on any Linux system. Linking to such bleeding edge libraries (We are a Redhat 6.2 shop) is unwise since few people will go through the trouble of upgrading glibc just to try this.

    I'll just stick with xmms.

  9. It's an ALPHA! by hearingaid · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Personally, I feel they should release this as a completely static binary, this way it can be run on any Linux system.

    Deep breath.

    This is not a release. It's an alpha version, fergawdsakes. You don't release precompiled binaries of alpha versions.

    And yes, it's bleeding-edge: of course. The fact that it was compiled with bleeding-edge libraries is probably a reflection of the libraries Nullsoft have on their Linux boxen.

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