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Rechargeable Boots

Fancypants writes: "ABCNews.com has posted an article about a Menlo Park, CA company that is developing boots that generate power. Imagine charging your cell phone by walking to class." Seems as if we've done a story before on shoes that generate electricity, but I sure don't see it in the archives.

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  1. Blinky lights... by Andorion · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now those little blinking lights on my cool Nike shoes can go on forever!!

    -Berj

  2. electric shoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/06/22/183825 1&mode=thread

    1. Re:electric shoes by SilentChris · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      And the funny thing is the same guy posted it.

  3. wow... by TheMMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    You could make a shoe that smells your feet and applies deodorant when needed... wow

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  4. It all fits together... by fsmunoz · · Score: 5, Funny

    This boots could generate the initial energy needed by this Hydrogen-Based Rotary Engine, and with that the uptime of this IBM Linux clock would be astonishing (and with that kind of energy, imagine a Beowulf cluster of those!)!

    This things do not happen be accident... people moan but eventually /. closes the circle!

  5. So... by kafka93 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... would that be sole-ar powered?

    Doh!

  6. how much? by Ozan · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd like to know how much power you can actualy get out of these boots. Charging a cellphone does not need much, but providing just enough for the discman only when you are running would be pretty incentive for us nerds to do some sports, huh?

    1. Re:how much? by Emil+Brink · · Score: 2

      This just in: by reading the article before posting comments, many redundant questions can be avoided... Anyway, just to prove that I did actually read it, here's a relevant quote: "the prototype boot generates about half a watt of power". But the director of the project "[...]hopes that by the end of January the boot's output could be raised to nearly two watts". There.

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  7. No actual power by pouwelse · · Score: 3, Informative
    Nice idea, but far from usefull.

    The previous Slashdot article on this topic gives actual numbers: 0.0013 W when walking normally.

    This fluffy article gives no numbers on the performance, but with their menthod it should not come even close to being realistic. When you do the math it is theoretically possible to get resonable amount of power from your shoes, but the technology is still experimental.

    As one of the developers of an Open Hardware PDA I can say that you can only do very litte computation for that and it would require an afternoon of walking to scrape enough energy together for a cell phone call.

    Just my 2 Eurocents,
    Johan.

    1. Re:No actual power by mikeage · · Score: 3, Informative

      Almost ;). The previous article was a piezoelectric design for the sole of the shoe... this uses two charged plates being moved through a magnetic field... according to the article, this one does 1/2W, soon to be boosted to 2W.

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  8. Oh goodness. by tomknight · · Score: 2, Funny
    Okay, I'll ask it....

    "But will they run Linux"

    (Insert jokes about bootstrapping, etc....)

    Tom.

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  9. Old hat by tomknight · · Score: 5, Informative
    (or should I say old shoe....?)

    The Electric Shoe Company sells these (or rather, a verion of them).

    Tom.

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    1. Re:Old hat by kettch · · Score: 2

      Yeah, it's not a new idea. In the book Dune they used little pumps inside their boots to run the circulation pumps of their stillsuits. They did have to put some sort of grease on their heels, or else it chafed something awful though.

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  10. killer app by hexdef6 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    If I remember correctly, there was a panel at Summercon 99 where Decius presented the concept for shoes like these as part of a presentation on a peculiar type of bio-encryption. His idea involved sending a security key to various objects (like a doorknob) via low power electricity oscillations sent across the skin. He suggested using piezo-electric generators in shoes as a power source.

    His idea was to use this system of information transmission to enable data-rich handshakes (using connected HUDs) among other things.

  11. Re:wha... the.... by TheMMaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am not actually an expert on the subject but (quote) A tiny battery positively charges one side of the flexible material and the other negatively. As the material is compressed and released ? such as by the foot pressure generated during walking ? the distance between the positive and negative sides change, which in turn creates electricity.

    From what I can remember from science class this seems to have something to do with electro-magnetism.... and for I guess it uses the battery to make the initial electro magnetic field...
    PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong ;-)

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  12. Actual power 1/2 a watt, heading to 2 watts by Ezza · · Score: 3, Informative

    From the article (you did read it right?):
    >the prototype boot generates about half a watt of
    >power -- more than enough energy to recharge the boot's built-in battery and
    >a cell phone. But Pelgrine hopes that by the end of January the boot's output
    >could be raised to nearly two watts

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    1. Re:Actual power 1/2 a watt, heading to 2 watts by pouwelse · · Score: 4, Informative
      From the article: >the prototype boot generates about half a > watt of power

      Because no technical details are available their is no way to know if this is the maximum power output during touchdown of the foot or the average power output during an average person walking at an average pace.

      My assumption is that the quoted 0.5 W is the delivered top power, not the average. This would be more in balance with existing technology. Otherwise they go directly for the next Nobel price for advancing current technology with a factor of 10,000 .

      As a guy who likes technology I hope they win the Noble price, but it is doubtfull.

      Just my 2 Eurocents,, Johan.

  13. Baylis by squaretorus · · Score: 2

    Trevor Baylis, of Wind Up Radio fame, is also working on this kind of technology. The approaches are pretty standard, and are ALL dependent on new materials which combine the ability to generate a current from flexing motion with a long lived flexibility to withstand many 100,000s of flexes over a number of years - often of highly variable force (walking vs running for example).
    At the moment the energy that can be created from these is tiny, roughly analagous to the energy created in a self winding watch mechanism pound for pound.
    This is going nowhere fast.

  14. Actual Numbers not good enough? by brunes69 · · Score: 2

    The article clearly states thet current models output one watt, with 2 watts projected by launch.

  15. Unforeseen dangers. by dinotrac · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Baby, when I kiss you, it makes my toes tingle."

    "Oh, John, John, I want...Wait a minute! Are you wearing those boots again?"

    "My feet were cold, hon. That's all. Cold feet. They don't mean a thing to me."

    "I knew it. You were kissing me, but you were thing of them. You've been running around on me. You heel. You're nothing but a leather whore"

    "No, baby, honest. It's not like that at all. Sure, the boots and me were an item once, but we're just friends now. C'mon, baby. Can't a guy have friends?"

    "You can have all the damned friends you want, John. I'm leaving you. Oh, and just so you'll know: I'm stopping by the shoe store on my way out."

    "No-o-o-o-o-o!!!!"

  16. Parasitic power by joel.neely · · Score: 5, Informative

    The good folks at the MIT Media Lab (especially under the Things That Think research program) have been researching such things for years.
    The July/August issue of IEEE Micro contains several articles on their work, including one on parasitic power.

  17. been around for years by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    The wwearable computing crowd at MIT and University of Toronto have been working on this stuff for at least 3 years now. I remember seeing a prototype piezoelectric shoe generator at MIT in 1997. I believe the reasearch was done in the same lab as the PAN (personal Area Network) which allows data exchange through skin contact... AKA a handshake will transfer your business card to the other person's wearable computer.

    from what I read at the links this is either a product based on the MIt research or someone re-inventing the wheel.

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  18. Re:wha... the.... by Technician · · Score: 2
    I would asume it would be so your phone doesn't go dead when you stop at the street corner to wait for the light to change. ;-)

    Humor aside, it's the same reason your car has a battery. It is not there to keep the lights on when the car is parked, but to provide high power (starting) for short amounts of time. The shoes may generate a half watt. Some mobile phones run on 2 watts. The other 1-1/2 watts come from the battery while talking on the phone.

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  19. Previously Seen Story??? by Schwarzchild · · Score: 3, Informative
    Seems as if we've done a story before on shoes that generate electricity...

    Hmm....maybe maybe not but /. has certainly previously posted a story on human generated power.

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  20. Not free power by p3d0 · · Score: 2

    The more power you generate from these boots, the harder walking becomes. I'm not sure I'd like to generate a few watts of power at the expense of lower back problems.

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  21. Cool Woz-like Hack by mrpengin · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wire in a 20V 1A cap. put it on one of those trick handshake things.

    Go to a Micro$oft convention.

    Drop 'em like fly's

    "Hi my name is.... oops dosen't matter"
    hehe

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  22. Power for electric cars by cheros · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just push it and it will... Er. Wait a minute. Dang, back to the drawing board.

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  23. Now people will start getting in shape! by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 2

    They'll start running around whenever they need a little extra power. I can seriously see this as a huge motivator for people to excercise.

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  24. Possible way... by cr0sh · · Score: 2

    OK, here is an idea on how to "build" electric boots. I am giving it away free, to the public domain. Hell, it might already be patented, I don't know...

    Build a boot with a fairly rigid upper, or with a frame around the upper, in such a manner that there is a semi-flexible pivot and a fully flexible pivot around the ankle (in other words, make it flexible in the full range of motion of the ankle, but try to keep it mostly flexible in the "normal" direction of motion, in line with the rest of the leg.

    Around this pivot you would need a gear system, with maybe a ratchet and small flywheel system (like the baycomm radio), so that as the ankle flexes, the flywheel is spun at a high rate of speed. Perhaps even make it spring loaded, so that when standing still, or during mid-stride, the flywheel continues to run for a short while.

    Attach a small generator (one of those cheesy 3V motors would be perfect if made a bit more robust), and tap the power.

    Feasible? Sounds reasonable to me, though perhaps a little bulky - but I bet with good design, it could be slimmed down and made to work rather well...

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