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FBI Wants to Tap The Net

Majik was among the stream sof people submitting this story about the FBI wanting to tap the net. Makes carnivore look like a baby monitor since this tracks all packets, and would be placed at key locations on the net.

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  1. To All Dissenters In United States Of Amerika by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    would rather not say
    By Charles Laurence in New York
    (Filed: 21/10/2001)

    THE most detailed analysis yet of the contested Florida
    votes from last year's presidential election - with the
    potential to question President Bush's legitimacy - is being
    withheld by the news organisations that commissioned it.
    Results of the inspection of more than 170,000 votes
    rejected as unreadable in the "hanging chad" chaos of last
    November's vote count were ready at the end of August.
    The study was commissioned early this year by a
    consortium including the Wall Street Journal, the
    Washington Post and the New York Times, the nation's
    most powerful newspapers, and the broadcaster CNN.
    It was regarded as a means of supplying final answers to
    the nagging questions over President Bush's razor-thin
    victory margin. The cost was more than £700,000.
    Now, however, spokesmen for the consortium say that
    they decided to "postpone" the story of the analysis by
    the National Opinion Research Centre (NORC) at the
    University of Chicago for lack of resources and lack of
    interest in the face of the enormous story of the
    September 11 attacks and the subsequent "war on
    terrorism".
    Newspapers were saying last week that the final phase of
    the analysis, the actual counting of the 170,000 votes,
    had been "postponed" but would become known at an
    appropriate time.
    America's liberal newspaper establishment originally set
    up the commission in the belief that it would discover that
    Al Gore was the winner of the Florida count.
    Their hope for a Gore victory appears to have been
    sacrificed on the altar of patriotism and a perception that
    America needs to be led into war by a strong president.
    "Our belief is that the priorities of the country have
    changed, and our priorities have changed," said Steven
    Goldstein, the vice-president of corporate communications
    at Dow Jones and Co, the owners of the Wall Street
    Journal.
    Catherine Mathis, a spokesman for the New York Times,
    said: "The consortium agreed that because of the war,
    because of our lack of resources, we were postponing the
    vote-count investigation. But this is not final. The intention
    is to go forward."
    However David Podvin, an investigative journalist who
    runs an independent web page, Make Them Accountable,
    said he had been tipped off that the consortium was
    covering up the results.
    He refused to disclose his source other than to describe
    him as a former media executive whom he knew "as an
    accurate conduit of information" and who claimed that the
    consortium "is deliberately hiding the results of its recount
    because Gore was the indisputable winner".
    He also claims that a New York Times journalist who was
    involved in the recount project had told "a former
    companion" that the Gore victory margin was big enough
    to create "major trouble for the Bush presidency if this
    ever gets out".
    He believes that the inspection, carried out over months
    by a team from NORC, proves that Mr Gore won Florida
    and, therefore, the election.
    That theory, however, is countered by the NORC staff
    who say that they designed the inspection programme so
    that no one has yet counted the votes and no outcome
    could be known.
    Dr John Mason, a professor of political science at William
    Paterson University, in New Jersey said: "The goosiness,
    the sensitivity, that the press which organised this
    analysis is showing to publishing the results and the
    persistence of questions about the Florida ballots raise
    questions. There is a sensitivity over the legitimacy of this
    president."
    Staff at NORC have been puzzled by the idea that the
    media would lack the resources because, according to
    them, they have computer programs already designed
    and fitted for the final count.
    Julie Antelman of NORC said: "They are all ready to go,
    and could have the count and the result within a working
    week."
    She added: "We very carefully kept our distance from the
    political implications of whatever the result may be. We
    do not know the outcome, and do not want to.
    "Our job was to prepare the raw data which goes into the
    counting programs: we are simply waiting for the order to
    deliver this data to the consortium, which we expected
    within the first two weeks of September."
    NORC analysts studied each of the 170,000 votes which
    were discarded because they were considered spoiled or
    simply unreadable. Each ballot paper has now been
    analysed and recorded to the ballot box and constituency
    where it was cast.
    French and Canadian newspapers suggest that the
    black-out can only raise suspicions, and the issue is being
    increasingly aired on the internet.
    Dr Mason said: "It would be responsible to complete this
    study and produce the result, whatever it may be."

  2. Re:NOPE, WAYyyyyyyy off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I'm pretty sure I have one in my pants.