A Strategic Comparison of Windows Vs. Unix

Ramsed writes "On LinuxWorld Paul Murphy wrote an article comparing Unix and Windows for a 500-student system and a 5,000-user manufacturing company. Summary: Most of the Windows versus Unix debate has been cast in terms of which is technically better or which is cheaper, but the real question is, 'Under what circumstances is it smarter to pick one technology rather than the other?'"

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[KingAzzy]

That was divine enlightenment you misguided anal spasm

Re:The Way IT Works

[q-soe]

OK well im an IT manager and i work 70+ hours a week - i have a small team (6) supporting just over 500 users on a Windows 2000 AD domain with 2000 Desktops - and i would comment on the overpaid but im laughing so hard i can't

You know everyone thinks they can do this job better than whoevers doing it - Budgets are a prime example. I worked my way up throught the levels to get here - ive worked Helpdesk, Desktop Support, Server and Infrastructre support and Porject work, and budgets still get me. Its no as easy as you think - you start out with planning what you want to do, then you work out what you can afford to do then you budget and extra 20-50% if you can to cover the 300000 other projects and things that the business wants to do but forgot about - the money has to come from somewhere - you have to plan for PC turnover (corporates DONT buy clones - i turn my machines over every 3 years (Leased Dell Environment) and that needs planning (you ever rolled out 100 machines in one hit ?). We use a standard environment and because we buy Dell we get a guranteed product lifecyle (same components etc) which means we only update that when the product changes - it makes things simpler (we also use RIS for builds - pisses on ghost BTW)

Now say we budget $1 Million next year for hardware purchases including upgrades - i work this by looking at my replacement schedules, estimated staff numbers, expansion etc - then when i get that figure i add 2 machines for each business group to give us a bit of room to manouver - if we run short we can simply re allocate funds to another account code. This is a lot easier than under estimating a budget and then having to beg for money to buy needed equipment, and i havent even begun to discuss training, staffing, travel, entertainment (yeah we do a little of it) stationary, rent, furniture and the myriad of other things - in all Budgeting takes my staff and i approx 2 months of hard work and we invariably miss things. And if you dont spend the budget next year you DO get less - its a fact of corporate life.

as for the example about Macs - the IT manager in that case fucked up - thats all i can say - but think about this - How much pressure did he get from above ?

We have recently implemented SAP over the objections of all of the IT Management team from our regiona - the business bought the product to replace a fucntional and effective Financial system and improve other areas - they had no firm reason to do it and the mess its created has cost us all huge hours and what was left of my budget. The reason we bought it ?

The CEO had used it at another company and all his friends who ran companies used it and the consultants convinced him and the board it would help them - they believe the budgets and didnt allocate enough money.

This is from a team of highly skilled and successful managers who produce results in their chosen areas but they dont know IT. I wonder if in this solution the manager was forced to do it by those above him who liked windows. ? (or he might just be a tool !)

My staff could quit, they could walk away but we dont - we dig in an work the time - we get the systems running because we are pros - and we hope we have enough money in the budget to give them a bit of ovetrtime (we dont BTW because they spent it all)

I think that you comment on overpaid is a little bit insulting but i will let it pass - i dont know a collegue in this industry who works under 60 hours a week and the stress levels are huge.

I also wonder if theres a little bias in your love of Macs? (i love em too but this doesnt cloud my judgement)

The point im making is that things are NEVER black and white - thats what annoys me a little about this article - simply saying that UNIX is cheaper and requires less support without empirical evidence is not a conclusive argument. I would love to be able to go open source but I also think that simply saying linux is better wont win - XP is much much much better than you think guys (oh and Windows 2000 crashes almost never - can we get past this mistaken impression please (im talking business here with a stable environment - what happens on your home PC which you play with is not a meaningfull statistic)

In short Being a manager is not all gravy - its the hardest you will EVER work and the least thankful role their is - on a good day only 50% of the company will be pissed at you for whatever thing they percieve your staff did wrong or didnt do today.

Re:Finally!

[kindbud]

Whoever is modding the parent as flamebait, needs to have their irony detector serviced.

If we are so rare,

[farrellj]

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