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OS Emulation Extravaganza, OS X On Down
HomeBrewR writes: "Behold the power of MacOS X...
Windows XP? Who cares! You guys arent going to believe what I was able to do in one bored day at work. http://www.mystaticip.com/homebrew shows my effort. I took OS X 10.1, installed fink with rootless Xfree86 with IceWM running BasiliskII [running MacOS 7.6]. OS X is also running ircle and VPC test drive running Windows XP. Simply amazing. The speed on this iBook 466SE of all the apps left much to be desired. This was a feasibility test. The speed of either one of the emulators running by themselves was decent if you turned off all the eye candy in Windows XP. I'm REALLY interested in getting BasiliskII up and running to be able to play all those games that OS 8 broke...stuff like Ancient Art of War and Vette. Check it out and have fun duplicating the effort HomeBrewR" The question I'm sure you're asking now is Why stop there?
Maybe he is running his web-server under Linux in a VMWARE emulation in his emulated XP...
Maybe not to that extreme...But I've done pretty much the same a little over a year ago with a PowerBook G3 running at 233Mhz. The Windows was on a different system in the shot, but it was through VMWare. MythII was running locally as was MacOnLinux. Now if only someone hadn't stolen that laptop I could still be having fun like that, but that beg's the question, why so much? I actually had a legitimate use for most of that stuff for various work projects, but rarely did I actually need them all at once.
here you see it
It's odd that there's a map in Myth II with the same name as a church I go.
My Slashdot account is old enough to drink...
Will someone please help me? I am trying to install Linux in VMWare on Windows running in VMWare on Linux runnin in VMWare on Windows running...
I just can't get anything done -- when do I stop? Someone please reset me.
He could have completed the circle by running a MacOS emu... and iterated again. :)
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http://www.webcache.org/a/2001/10/27/www.mystatici p.com/homebrew/index.html
:) I can definitely say I love MacOS X, and without a doubt -- you can run more apps from MacOS X than any other OS, especially if you throw in Virtual PC.
Hopefully it can handle it.
I myself run WinXP in VirtualPC.. but I've been struggling to figure out why I bought VirtualPC other than to try XP? Is there really any Windows app I need?
Oh.. ya, Civ3 is being released for Windows first.. that's why I need it!
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It looks pretty cool - cant think of what use this would be though. This guys website has no text about it at all. It goes something like:
Dayam I love Mac OSX - look what I did.
No lie thats all it says.
One extremely bored weekend, on a win2k box..
.mods
VMware with redhat linux running UAE
Vmware with Win98SE for games.
BaliskII with net access running os8
WinUAE playing
Then,
Running VNC to my linux box with IceWM with qnx theme.
Running VNC to my wifes 98se box
My linux box mounting my Win2k drives with sharity
My win2k box mounting my linux boxes with samba
Xwin32 running a file manager on the unix box that was looking at my win2k mounted drives.
Netscape exported back.
Running eFX with enlightenment skin.
Exporting Gimp back and viewing pictures on my local drives.
Mirc in desktop mode with transparency.
tclock for looks and to replace the start button.
econsole - I use dterm for win32 now.
And when not listening to mods, Sonique with background visuals.
Lots of cool stuff out there, emulators for almost everything, mame/consoles/64/amiga/atari/mac/apple/etc..
And tons of programs to make windows look the way you want, or even go wild with litestep/graphite/etc..
If your interested in tweaking and shell enhacements check out Shell City daily updates with new programs.
Customize.org and Floachs site are a must visit also.
Emaculation.com Is one of the most popular mac-emulation sites on the net and has useful information on setting up Mac emulators (currently, there is no ppc software-based mac emulator :-( )
-- If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done? - Uli's moose
Well hey, I beowulfed some neuronal organisms to form a neural cord, on top of which I then booted a reptilian brain stem. Then we emulated a limbic system, and added a running neocortex. Lastly, we mounted a full complex neocortex image!
Now it can eat, kill, fu*k, feel happy and sad, do basic math and wonder about the meaning of life.
Next we're trying to see if we've got enough spare cycles to initialise some basic psychic/saintly procedures...
Mind you, performance is terrible. Aggressive funcions are very quick, but it seems permanently stuck in a loop in some lower subroutine concerning sex, while taking forever to compute simple empathy matrices.
We're seriously considering a complete cold reboot, but then it did once turn water into wine. Maybe we should just leave it running, what do you think?
With this site someone could make a MUCH better picture than the one shown.
- Vincit qui patitur.
Hi,
:) oh yeah, that and a Titanium powerbook so I can trash that fscking Tecra :-)
First off, this is slightly off-topic. I just wanted to relate my experience with 10.1 last week. I got a copy after months of procrastination and installed it on a G3 450mhz (the Blue and White type). I'd also like to note that I'm not really trying to start a flame war. I am a big fan of *nixes in general (I first worked on a PDP11 running some kind of Nix back in 82), I am also (strangely for a nix zealot) a huge Mac fan. I'm not a big fan of any Nix GUI nor of windows. Mainly I'm posting this because for the first time in several jaded years, something in mainstream Computing made me go "Wow!". Forget the iPod. The experience below hasjust made me decide that OSX is an incredible achievement.
The install was the easiest I have ever done, especially amazing considering there is a *Nix beneath. I went from 9.0 to 9.1, 9.1 to 10, 10 to 10.1 and finally upgraded the 9.1 to 9.2 The only hiccup was that I only got developer tools for 10.0 -- they don't work with 10.1 -- and although I bought a 10.1 Installation, that kit didnt come with 10.1 developers tools -- download from connect.apple.com.
So far so good -- it isn't rocket fast, but not slow enough to impair productivity at all.
My long term aim is a Powerbook running my work development environment which is Dynamo and Weblogic based. I really dislike my Tecra 8100.
So, the rest of the afternoon I checked out our CVS tree -- all 300 Megs.... Yes -- I was able to switch to ZSH, and access CVS via SSH without installing a single piece of software (other than creating a zshenv with CVSROOT etc set).
Next day I started a build, and after a couple of minor hitches (differences with FIND and RM, and PERL in the wrong place (bin not local/bin), I had a clean build. Took a little while, but by the end of the afternoon I had a ATG Dynamo server running our web applications....
Amazingly simple. Everything just *WORKED*.
My only problem is that Java based disk access is *VERY SLOW*.
I did some basic benchmarks against my Toshiba Tecra (650 mhz). The Mac (450mhz) during Memory and CPU based processing ran about the same speed as the 650mhz.
However disk access was twice as slow as the laptop -- anyone got any ideas ? Recall I installed on a pre-existing HFS+ disk that had OS9.1 on it. Can anyone recommend a disk tuning utility ? Should I rebuild from scratch with a different disk format?
In Summary -- OS X 10.1 rocks if you want to use Java 1.3 in a Unix environment - project Builder looks sweet , though I haven't played with it. 2 easy days work and I had a new development environment. I think it took me a month or so with my Redhat 6.2 on that Tecra.
All I want now is a Quartz/Carbon based Emacs
Winton
There is no other computer where you can run Mac OS X and Windows XP together, while also running Mac OS 9 apps and UNIX apps. I write tech books, and I do all of the Mac and Windows screenshots on a PowerBook, and have for years. Many authors do this. Very convenient. VirtualPC is a great Web testing ground, and it's very mature on the Mac and works really well. VirtualPC is essentially free when you buy it with Windows included, and it enables you to run any software you can find on the Web in Mac OS X. Still, I only run a Windows app for non-testing purposes about once a year. So much Windows software is crap. 300 shitty icon editors.
... people aren't suffering too much on Mac OS X. In a year or so Classic will be mostly a distant memory, anyway.
There is plenty of native software for Mac OS X already, and the marquee apps have all either shipped, been demoed, or been announced. Besides, Mac OS X runs Mac OS 9 apps better than Mac OS 9 in most cases