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GNU-Darwin Goes Beta

proclus writes "OSX.1 users can now install the GNU-Darwin base distribution automatically with one command. As Root: "curl http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/one_stop | csh"." This assummes you have curl or wget or something. From there you can install gnome, abiword, gimp or whatever. Looks pretty smooth (although I'm kinda confused how you get back to OSX.1 from there ;)

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  1. gnome over x? by macsox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i am truly at a loss as to why one would install gnome over os x. i understand the issue of an os being open-source, etc., but you can pick up a $99 pentium box to run gnome, if you're that interested in having it.

    (and what's with this 20 seconds before post rule? does everyone on slashdot think really slowly?)

    1. Re:gnome over x? by alfredo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It gives expanded resources. You can run it rootless so XWindows apps run alongside Aqua apps.

      Steve Jobs knew this would happen. Kind of like Field of Dreams, "If you build it, they will come."

      Here is one screenshotWindowmaker and other goodies

      this one is nice too. a lot going on

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    2. Re:gnome over x? by Ryan+Amos · · Score: 4, Informative

      Aqua doesn't, however, you can download a rootless X server (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xonx/) that lets you run X apps right along with Aqua apps. The same files are also available on http://macosx.forked.net/ in Mac OS X .pkg files, along with other useful stuff OS X doesn't include, such as ncurses. The window manager, by the way, is whatever window manager you decide to install-- it's just XFree86 ported to a darwin kernel with a rootless option. If you're not running OS X, XDarwin (not XonX) will probably work better for you.. It doesn't have the rootless option, but if you don't have Aqua, you don't really need it. Hope this was of help to some people.

  2. What's so special about this distribution? by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I use fink myself. It's sort of a clone of apt-get for OSX. I have octave, gimp, latex, and a host of other applications on my machine. What's the advantage of this "distribution"?

  3. That script is weird... by CoolVibe · · Score: 4, Informative
    It replaces everything with GNU darwin stuff if you run it on Mac OS X. How do they know that doesn't break anything? e.g. GNU ls is different from the BSD type ls Mac OS X has installed default. I think a big YMMV is in place here.

    That said, I'll just download the ISO and free up a partition to run it alongside Mac OS X and Aqua. That way my normal OSX system is guaranteed not to break. My mac is a test machine anyway. I run different operating systems on it depending on what I need to test. I urge everyone that wants to test this on their machine that runs important stuff to BACK UP THEIR IMPORTANT FILES, just to be safe.

    Oh.. another thing: it's BETA. It might break. So be a little cautious, and be prepared to pull up your sleeves and do some work if it breaks, but hey, that's what being bleeding edge is all about, right?

    But anyway: Great work guys! I'll seriously check it out. I'm downloading the iso as you read this comment.

  4. Um, disturbing by skullY · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Is anyone else highly disturbed by this? Have you read through that csh script? And why csh, there's no black magic there, and at least my copy of osx came with /bin/sh.

    From the script:

    essential_binaries:
    curl -o wget http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/packages/wget
    chmod 755 wget
    cp wget /usr/bin
    rehash
    Erm, so 10.1 comes with curl, which besides providing a library for use in your own programs, also seems to be more unix-like and full featured than wget, with the exception of recursively getting an entire directory tree, which 95% of the time I use wget I'm not doing anyway. This script also doesn't seem to use wget for anything but fetching single files. (Was s/wget/curl -O/ too hard?)

    cd /usr/bin
    mv tar ~
    wget http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/packages/tar
    chmod 755 /usr/bin/tar
    wget http://gnu-darwin.sourceforge.net/packages/killall
    chmod 755 /usr/bin/killall
    Oh boy, here come the first of the unwelcome "improvements." Apple thoughtfull provided not only the bsd tar program, but a binary called "gnutar" as well that seems to support all the options of GNU tar on my linux machines (With the one exception of bzip2 compatability, but that's easily fixed by piping bzip2 output to tar.) And KILLALL, don't forget about one of the single most dangerous commands to get into the habit of using, next to rm -rf. God forbid they have to cat pid files or even use awk to figure out a process id in a one time use shell script. It might make the script ugly.

    *sigh*

    I really do appreciate the work GNU-Darwin is doing, they're filling the few gaps on my osx machine. I just wish they didn't go the extra mile to make my system GNUified. It's not becoming of a nice BSD install.

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  5. x86 Darwin by Hostile17 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Does anyone know if any active development is taking place for the x86 port of Darwin ? I have downloaded it and had look, but it supports very little hardware and if I build a system just for it, I might as well get an iMac and use it in its native platform.

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  6. fink == apt-get by mbrubeck · · Score: 4, Informative

    I use fink myself. It's sort of a clone of apt-get for OSX. Minor correction -- fink is not "sort of a clone" of the Debian tools. It is actually a frontend to the dpkg/apt suite, which they ported to OS X. Fink uses the real Debian package management tools and the .deb package format.