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ICANN Mulls Poll Taxes, Representation

Cutriss writes: "The ICANN seems to be thinking about giving in to public demands. According to this article on Wired.com mentions that ICANN is considering allowing domain owners to elect their board of directors. It's a step in the right direction. I wonder if domain owners could collaborate and cast a collective vote of no confidence, absolving ICANN of its responsibilities..." I wouldn't call it a step in the right direction since each revision to ICANN's Board involves less individual representation and more corporate representatives. There's another story with some quotes from Karl Auerbach. The At-Large study that we talked about earlier has now been released in its final form. If you don't like the way ICANN is going, please consider attending their meetings. Next one is in Los Angeles next week.

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  1. What about multiple internet domains? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Frankly having people vote who have internet domains isn't all that much better than anyone who has an email address. I personally own nearly six or so domains (this is not even including the ones that I am listed at a technical contact for due to my web development work). This also shuts out a lot more people that would other-wise be able to vote, I can name several people who probably would choose to vote yet this will cut them out.

  2. Catch 22 by Angry+Black+Man · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Unfortunately there is no good way to solve the problem of one person voting multiple times. There are tons of people with hundreds of domains under their belts. Granted while it is easier to get e-mail addresses than it is domains the elections could still be off balanced by a single person with many domain names. Perhaps an even better solution would be allowing one vote per IP address or something along the lines of that. Again, it wouldn't be perfect or promise that only one vote per person is counted. It's something to think about. If anybody has any other ideas for solutions, I'd like to hear about them. It seems like something I'd be interested in researching and refining.

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    1. Re:Catch 22 by instinctdesign · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Perhaps you could have to register to vote, much like you currently have to in many countries. This would allow the combination of multiple factors from email address, domain, IP, etc. Seeing as how your email isn't all that anonymous in general (if that was what some people are worrying about) then this solution might work. As was mentioned in an earlier post, democracy isn't easy and you have to want to be a part of it so this extra time and effort would be worth it.

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  3. democracy in action by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It has been said that Democracy is what happens when people participate. If no one participates, then what you get is a democracy of whoever happens to show up.

    You can have a democracy of special interests, a democracy of thieves, a democracy of madmen, or whatever.

    If you think your viewpoint is relevent and important, then you should do something.

    In the People are Lazy theory, People tend to do only those things that are utterly important to them. This allows more ambitious folks a free hand.

    This might not been in your best interest.

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  4. This is not "a step in the right direction" by scarhill · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Cutriss writes: "The ICANN seems to be thinking about giving in to public demands. According to this article on Wired.com mentions that ICANN is considering allowing domain owners to elect their board of directors. It's a step in the right direction."
    According to ICANN's original charter (which the board has ignored), all internet users were supposed to be able to elect half of the board. Now this committee proposes (and the board will no doubt rubber stamp) that domain name owners elect one third of the board, with the rest appointed by a variety of industry "stakeholders".

    How is that an improvment???

    1. Re:This is not "a step in the right direction" by belldandy · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The real problem with this is that if you read the by-laws, they need a 2/3rds majority to pass anything. With the number of At-Large Directors elected, they kept that portion under 1/3 of the total slots. Thus even if all of the At-Large Directors are opposed to a measure, they can STILL pass it.

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      PS Also take a look at this article submitted last Wednesday that talks about the same thing.

    2. Re:This is not "a step in the right direction" by Luyseyal · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It certainly isn't "a step in the right direction." ICANN isn't giving in to public demands, its giving up on public participation. It seems to me that ICANN is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

      Indeed, several of us on the At-Large forum list have said that we would sign an amicus curiae or whathaveyou on a report to the Department of Commerce that ICANN has failed to implement anything at all resembling public participation as promised.

      Methinks they'd be pretty sad if the DoC said "get with the program or dissolve."

      -l

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  5. How does this solve the problem? by gcondon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ultimately, the problem is that ICANN is getting too cozy with the corporations that dominate the web.

    As mentioned in the article, the problem with the last "public" election was that it suffered from massive fraud by people opening throwaway email accounts to vote with.

    Certainly a "one domain = one vote" scheme would heavily favor corporations which regularly buy blocks of domains to protect their trademark turf.

    However, even a "one domain owner = one vote" scheme would be unfair to the public. While they might be limited to a single vote for the majority of their domains, only big corporations (think M$) have the money to rig the elections by purchasing domains through shell organizations (think The Association for Competitive Technology).

    At least when the primary mechanism for ICANN voting fraud was free, the public could still compete with the corporations.

  6. So dump ICANN by Ami+Ganguli · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ICANN is only relavent as long as everybody uses their DNS. I don't understand why somebody with some moral authority in the IT world doesn't just set up an alternative. I know there are in fact several alternatives, but these are private companies that nobody has heard about.

    So who could do it? The IETF and the ACM come to mind. There are probably a few others.

    Note that you don't have to switch all at once, you can still fall back to legacy ICANN domains if the new domain system doesn't find a match.

    My "ultimate" domain name scheme would allow anything as a .tld (although you could set up a few with restricted access, perhaps '.trademark' or something like that). That way, for example, IBM could use "buy.ibm", while somebody who doesn't like IBM could use "dontbuy.ibm". There would be no way to purchase all the domains under a .tld.

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  7. I thought they solved it by Sloppy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What I don't get, is that when I signed up for At Large membership, I think I remember that there was a snail mail step, where I received some code thingie on a physical piece of paper. Doesn't that limit the fraud to people with multiple physical snailmail addresses? That's still do-able, but a much bigger pain-in-the-ass than setting up multiple email accounts.

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