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Neutrinos, Muons and the Standard Model

scorp1us writes: "I can't believe I haven't seen this posted yet. Apparently experiments in particle physics aren't holding to theory. The result: a search for a new form of energy or matter. Read about it in the Post. No wonder witches weigh as much as a duck."

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  1. Changing theories by Debillitatus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I can't believe I haven't seen this posted yet. Apparently experiments in particle physics aren't holding to theory

    I think that this is maybe not so surprising. Theories in particle physics are very unlike a lot of other theories. There's not much evidence sitting around for some of these things, and as new evidence comes in, the theories change.

    This is true for any scientific endeavor, but the changes are much more rapid in things like high-energy physics.

    In short, I'm just saying that it shouldn't be taken as a "radical breakthrough" just because someone had the muon equation wrong, because it was going to happen at some point.

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  2. Deja vu, and not a very good article. by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This was posted a few days ago, along with links to much better articles:

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/08/222121 3

    What the experiment shows is that the plan-vanilla Standard Model doesn't perfectly match reality. This is a surprise to nobody.

    The results give a tantalizing look at one region of this breakdown, but proclaiming "a new form of energy or matter" is a bit premature at this point. What this will actually do is help confirm, refute, or fine-tune a few of the new models that are replacement candidates for the Standard Model.

  3. /me applauds. by Forager · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since neutrinos are so small, most of the time they passed through the nucleus without affecting it. The frequency of collisions told scientists about the electromagnetic forces that affect how neutrinos behave -- the so-called weak forces. The scientists found slightly fewer interactions with one of the weak forces than had been predicted by the Standard Model, physicists' current description of fundamental forces and particles. Since the model is very precise, scientists concluded that the difference was significant. (emphasis mine)

    This is what I love about science. Here we have the Standard Model, formed from exhaustively detailed tests over the last 30 years. As the article states, the model is very precise, and slight deviations are significant issues. However, rather than scrap the entire idea, or announce that the tests were probably flawed, or decry the scientists who performed the tests as heathens and radicals, here we see that the community will embrace this new data and reform the model in such a way as to make it work.

    This is the beauty of science. If something doesn't work out the way it was supposed to, if a theory doesn't fit with the cold, hard data, the majourity of scientists will go out of their way to fix the theory (not the data). Scientists are always going out of their way to keep each other in check; at any given time one scientist may be checking some prominent theory or another. It keeps them honest, and while the system isn't fool proof, it's damn tight.

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  4. Re:Non absolutes... by Wraithlyn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Absolutes and hyperbole are the refuge of the close minded. They are simply not ruling out any possibilities without further confirmation.. this is an excellent practice I feel. They suspect they could be onto something big, but don't want to "over hype" it.

    "The wise man is the one who realizes that he knows nothing." - Socrates

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