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Another Plane Down in New York
Another plane has crashed, this time in Queens. You can read a blurb at Yahoo.
CNN.com isn't responding for me. LaGuardia, Newark and JFK are closed now. Update: 11/12 14:54 GMT by T : New reports indicate that the plane was departing from JFK, not arriving. Also, CNN has confirmed that this was American Airlines flight 587, an Airbus A 300. Update: 11/12 14:57 GMT by T : Further information is that the plane was en route to the Dominican Republic, and that the disaster actually involves two crash sites, not just one -- an engine fell from the plane some distance from the fuselage.
Live video coverage at MSNBC.
Any sufficiently well-organized Government is indistinguishable from bullshit.
It's September 11th all over again!
We're all going to die...
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Winning the land battle in Afghanistan does nothing to make us safer
Not to open a can of worm here, but neither does doing nothing. I'd rather go after the guy who did it than not.
First people hear the initial incorrect reports (incoming flight, 767), then other people post more up to date information. Then the first wave berates the second wave for not having the correct info. Then they just look stupid for getting knee-jerk news reports anyhow.
Slow down, don't post so damn quick.
I believe that unless they do something about minimum wage, lowest bidder security, that this will be the norm.
Get used to it.
Life is the leading cause of death in America.
What you don't understand is that bombing Afghanistan only creates more kamikazes.
Just take a real story: Kabul, "normal" family with a mother, a father and 6 children. An US bomb miss (?) its millitary target and destroy their house. The father and 5 children die. The mother lose her mind. The surviving child is 5 years old. All his life, he'll remember his father, brothers and sisters killed by US army. If in 15 years he becomes a terrorist and make a plane crash in NY, you'll know why. Drama like that happen every day in Afghanistan since US start bombing. Each of them create potential kamikazes.
Hatred create hatred. Violence leads to violence. You can't destroy terrorism with bombs. By killing Afghans you just increase the anti-US hatred in those countries, you give strength to Bin Laden and his friends.
From Ananova
Ananova :
Terrorism ruled out as cause of Queens crash
Terrorism has been ruled out as a cause of the Queens air crash.
Up to 246 passengers are thought to have been aboard the American Airlines Airbus A300.
All New York area airports have been closed following the crash, in the Rockaways area of Queens, a residential neighbourhood under the JFK airport flight path.
Bridges and tunnels into New York have also been closed but the Federal Aviation Authority has ruled out terrorism as a cause.
The organisation earlier stated that the cause of the crash is not known, although there are reports the jet suffered engine failure.
Washington says US Air Force patrols over New York received no calls before the crash.
Fighters have been flying over the city's skies 24 hours a day since September 11. Crews have been told they must be prepared to shoot down any hijacked civilian aircraft if ordered to do so.
The passenger jet had taken off from John F Kennedy Airport - five to 10 miles away, when it crashed into buildings and burst into flames.
Mayor Rudolph Giuliani has joined rescue services at the scene. At least four buildings are said to be on a fire. One witness reported debris falling from sky and told the Fox News Channel that four homes were on fire.
Another told CNN he was 40 blocks away and saw: "Just a lot of smoke. Tons and tons of smoke. You can see emergency vehicles heading to area. Lots of people are standing in the streets. It's very tense."
An insider, possibly a mechanic, rigged the engine with a bomb. Now I'm going to stretch this a bit and say that there might have been actual hijackers on the plane, and that they were forcefully taken down... but the engine bomb still went off.
Oh well, that's my theory.
Hammer of Truth
Excuse me but that is just plain bullshit.
It is actually quite normal for planes to crash every now and then, therefore it is most likely to be an accident.
1. We're threatened with further attacks.
2. Two weeks later, a plane crashes.
You do the math, bucko.
-Waldo
Maybe with all the upper management types off on on their 3-day weekends, we'll actually get better information.
Naw -- that never happens.
Worst Airline ever.
And another nail into the coffin of American civil liberties.
Oh I see...
Now Bush will try to bomb Airbus factories because they "bombed" NY...
Then is this the worst they'll do? Now, I know blowing up planes or crashing them into buildings is quite horrific, yet I thought, if this is a terrorist attack, they'd go further? Not that I am striking fear into you guys, but maybe they would have done something like releasing Small Pox (that isn't an unlikely scenerio by the way).
Also, do you think that they missed their target? Crashing into Queens is pretty bad, yet I don't think there was an intention to crash there and I beleive there was an intention to crash somewhere else.
That is, if it is an act of terrorism.
It's really sad that we are actually praying it was an accident. Usually we hope that no one has died.
El Diablo, the Twisted One