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Firewire and Linux?

aozilla asks: "I was just at Pricewatch, and I noticed that 80 gig firewire drives are available for only $200. My good old IBM Deskstar just crashed, so I'm in the market for a new hard drive, and I'd love to go with Firewire. External, hot-swappable and the ability to have more than 2 devices without significant slowdown are the main features I'd like on top of what I get from my IDE drives. I'd like to hear from those who have experience running firewire on Linux. How good is the driver support? Is hot-swappability really supported (just umount and unplug, plug and mount)? Are there any recommendations for PCI Firewire cards for Linux? How many drives can reasonably fit before power becomes an issue (I assume the less expensive drives obtain power from the port)? My main goals are capacity, cost, and convenience. Speed is not too much of an issue, and I'm more a fan of automated and explicit backups rather than RAID."

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  1. IEEE 1394 for Linux by SolidCore · · Score: 2, Redundant

    Been using mine for a while and works great. I expect much work in 2.5 will be done for this.

  2. Re:Probably hard to boot from by Refrag · · Score: 0, Redundant
    Apple uses OpenBIOS.

    Damn borken extrans mode.

    --
    I have a website. It's about Macs.
  3. yes i agree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Redundant

    fp (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 14, @01:42PM (#2564988)

    fp
    fire jon katz

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    Firewire and Linux (Score:2, Informative)
    by Phaze3 on Wednesday November 14, @01:43PM (#2565000)
    (User #197763 Info | http://www.higheriq.com/)

    I have had alot of Luck with my firewire drive in linux. Of course I couldnt get it working as my boot drive but It gives me a whole lot of extra storage for mp3s, web sites, etc... I just wish I could get my camcorder to work....

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    and videocameras by Gunstick (Score:1) Wednesday November 14, @02:05PM

    Re:and videocameras by pivo (Score:1) Wednesday November 14, @02:21PM
    Video Cameras by eplese (Score:1) Wednesday November 14, @02:14PM

    Fuck. (Score:-1)
    by Fecal Troll Matter on Wednesday November 14, @01:43PM (#2565001)
    (User #445929 Info | http://www.brittneycleary.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday October 24, @07:57PM)

    My computer is bigger, better, and faster than yours.

    Also, Linux sucks.

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    Re:Fuck. by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @01:48PM

    Re:Fuck. by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @01:52PM
    Re:Fuck. by neal n bob (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @02:27PM
    Thank you! by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @02:23PM

    Aww shit (Score:-1)
    by Guns n' Roses Troll on Wednesday November 14, @01:43PM (#2565002)
    (User #207208 Info | http://www.apple.com/)

    This isn't the first post but I'd still like to say hello to all my fellow trolls and crapflooders.

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    Re:Aww shit by SlaveTroll (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @01:45PM
    Re:Aww shit by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @01:45PM
    Re:Aww shit by Sunken Kursk (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @01:52PM

    Re:Aww shit by Guns n' Roses Troll (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @02:01PM

    Re:Aww shit by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @02:25PM

    USB question too... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 14, @01:44PM (#2565013)

    I'm still trying to get my backpack hard drive to work with USB, rather than the CPU intensive parallel port.

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    Re:USB question too... by lucifuge31337 (Score:1) Wednesday November 14, @02:34PM

    Probably hard to boot from (Score:4, Informative)
    by MadCow42 (fanmail.REMOVE_CAPS@NOSPAM.mad-cow.tv) on Wednesday November 14, @01:45PM (#2565030)
    (User #243108 Info | http://www.fuckaway.com/)

    The only problem you'll really run into is trying to make it a boot drive. I don't know of any BIOS's that have "FireWire" as a boot option.

    However, you may be able to use a Linux Boot Disk with the FireWire driver on it... it would take some work, but it may be possible.

    Just a thought,
    MadCow.

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    Re:Probably hard to boot from by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @01:59PM
    Re:Probably hard to boot from by Cutriss (Score:3) Wednesday November 14, @01:59PM

    Re:Probably hard to boot from by Refrag (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @02:14PM

    Re:Probably hard to boot from by connorbd (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @02:22PM

    Re:Probably hard to boot from by Refrag (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @02:33PM

    Re:Probably hard to boot from Wednesday November 14, @02:37PM
    Re:Probably hard to boot from by Amazing Quantum Man (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @02:37PM
    Re:Probably hard to boot from Wednesday November 14, @02:20PM

    Re:Probably hard to boot from Wednesday November 14, @02:25PM

    Re:Probably hard to boot from by connorbd (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @02:34PM
    Re:Probably hard to boot from by iso (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @02:21PM
    Re:Probably hard to boot from by NovaX (Score:1) Wednesday November 14, @02:00PM

    Re:Probably hard to boot from Wednesday November 14, @02:02PM
    Re:Probably hard to boot from Wednesday November 14, @02:13PM

    a lot of info is available (Score:5, Informative)
    by sam@caveman.org on Wednesday November 14, @01:46PM (#2565036)
    (User #13833 Info | http://slashdot.org/)

    check out linux1394.sourceforge.net [sourceforge.net]. lots of info about which cards have good linux drivers, and how good the drivers are, etc.

    -sam

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    Re:a lot of info is available by Anonymous Coward (Score:-1) Wednesday November 14, @01:49PM

    Re:a lot of info is available (Score:5, Informative)
    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 14, @02:01PM (#2565209)

    Just to let you all know, I use two 80gig 1394 external drives. Basically they are an ata100 drive with a bit of hardware in the enclosure to convert to 1394. Two weeks ago, I lost the controller card in the enclosure of one of the drives. Not only did I loose the data, but also the drives themselves were damaged due to this. Being that they are Maxtor drives, they did a great job on replacing the faulty equipment, but to bad for the data. This is not only a problem for Linux, but also for windows. Buyers beware. Firewire has great potential for many things, if only they didn't have a problem with the controllers.

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    Re:a lot of info is available by 11223 (Score:2) Wednesday November 14, @02:46PM
    Re:a lot of info is available Wednesday November 14, @02:46PM

    My experience: Not good (Score:5, Interesting)
    by Billy Bo Bob on Wednesday November 14, @01:46PM (#2565038)
    (User #87919 Info)

    I haven't tried the 80 gig drives but I use a 1 gig microdrive with a firewire dongle regularly on 2.4.something. It doesn't work great. While transferring a lot of files, the computer becomes quite unresponsive (it seems to spend a lot of the time in the kernel). Finishing up the last file often takes a very long time, all the while the computer often appears frozen. It does freeze occasionally (only when using firewire).

    In addition, unmounting/remounting only works sometimes. Often I have to unload the modules and reload them. Based on my experience, I would say mass-storage on firewire on Linux isn't ready for prime-time yet. YMMV.

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